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HGH vs IGF1

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2011/12/19 13:53:03 (permalink)

HGH vs IGF1

If you had a choice between Hgh and IGF1 for bulking which would you choose and why? (obviously coupled with AAS and good training and nutrition).
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/19 14:13:34 (permalink)
    Igf-Lr3 hands down if used correctly ...Reasons Igf causes more stem cell through differentiation .
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/19 14:17:08 (permalink)
    How would you use it correctly?
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/19 14:22:11 (permalink)
    Have a read here mate http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/long-igf1-R3-and-IGF1-ec-mgf-m4632429.aspx  at the post i wrote it will explain why if used incorrectly it will cancel out your Mgf.. 
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/19 14:46:20 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info mate, lots to take in and for me to learn. Am new to the world of peptides so please bear with me. I never knew there were different types of IGF. What does MGF stand for?
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/19 15:34:48 (permalink)
    Mechano Growth Factor (MGF) 
     
    any time mate just ask :)
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/20 12:27:08 (permalink)
    Ok.....whilst I research some of these other peptides which you have mentioned can I in the mean time use IGF 1 r3 without the others and still acheive better results than using HGH alone?
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/20 13:01:52 (permalink)
    You most certainly can ..I found the best time for Lr3 is 40mins post w/o so it does not clash with Mgf production ..
     
    I found the best dose for me was 200mcg split bilat but have a play start at about 50mcg bilat and work your way up till you feel the Lr3 working 
     
    Dont forget that with Igf the majority of gains come after you have finished the 30 day cycle ,,so you will need to mature the new cells with AAS , Slin or GH ,,
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/20 13:10:27 (permalink)
    I take it then that MGF is produced naturally in the body after traing? What does it do?
    What should Lr3 feel like when its working?
    Where can I read up some back ground on you mate, you have a vast knowledge, hope I dont sound too upfront by asking. I just like to know where my info is coming from.
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/20 13:23:08 (permalink)
    Yes mate mgf is produced naturally after training 
     
    When you find the correct dose for you you will start shredding fat ,feel pumped 24/7 and just feel good about yourself .. dut when you hit this you then need to up your cals (clean) to continue with the gains .. 
     
    Have a look on Wikipedia that will tell you most of your answers on how these peptides work .. 
     
     
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/20 13:48:52 (permalink)
    Thanks again for the info, will spend some time on Wikipedia. How long would you cycle the Lr3, on and off periods?
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/20 22:47:59 (permalink)
    30 days on 30 days off ideally  
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2011/12/21 23:17:18 (permalink)
    i use to spot inject igf into biceps etc pretty amazing growth imo was doing 100mcg each bicep though took a bit of hit an miss with dosage, some good advice above...
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2012/01/05 15:53:10 (permalink)
    Ok. Happy new year everyone. Been doing lots of reading both on the net and on this board. Tons of info, lots contradicting but i understand that there is more than one way to string a bow and lots of it comes down to trial and error.
    Anyhow...............Got hold of some IGF, its only blue top generic but its all i can get, gonna make a start tomorrow. Am currently running some slin too, novorapid. Gonna take 10iu immediatly after training and then drink post workout drink then 45 min after finish of training shoot IGF into muscle just worked then eat dinner. How does this sound?  
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2012/01/05 16:30:06 (permalink)
    The trouble with Insulin and Insulin like growth factor is they will be competing for the same receptor so will cancel each other out 
     
    What i would do is do your slin shot as you mentioned ,that is only active for 5 hours(not sure what time you train) then either pre bed (5 hours later )or 12 before training Jab your dose of Igf 
     
     
    What dose are you going for mate 
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2012/01/06 09:22:27 (permalink)
    Hi thoon,
     
    I train at about 10am and have 1000mcg of IGF to last the month so was gonna work up to 100mcg split bi-lat 3 times per week. Would it make a difference as to what type of IGF I have as to weather I would shoot it 12 hours before training or not. The thing is because the IGF is generic i'm not sure if it is Des. LR3 etc.
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2012/01/06 18:54:57 (permalink)
    If the IGF is generic then i would gues it was the long chained amino acid 
     
    I know you cant on a open forum but mail me the make and where it come from ill let you know what you have there.If you wanted  , Otherwise you might just be wasting your time if its the short acting amino 
     
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2012/01/17 12:32:22 (permalink)
    Hi Thoon,
    Sent you a message about a week ago with details, not too sure if you received it.
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2012/01/17 12:39:33 (permalink)
    I thought i sent one back ill re send mate 
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    Re:HGH vs IGF1 2012/01/17 13:20:07 (permalink)
    Have you ever read, or tried, about mixing GH and slin in the same pin and injecting IM straight after training. What are your thoughts?
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