Sponsored by: BulkPowders.co.uk - Whey Protein Concentrate from just £7.99/kg – L Glutamine 1kg Just £17.99 - Aminos, Creatine and Carbohydrates all at the lowest prices in Europe!

 HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit


Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 23
Author Message
Kensou09

  • Total Posts : 61
  • Reward points : 4584
  • Joined: 11/03/2006
  • Status: offline
  • Read my TROG
HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 30 January 2012 11:24 (permalink)
Hello People,
 
I was on testosterone enanthate cycle 500mg a week from August to November and few weeks into it i was feeling very tired. Thought it was because of water / diet.  After stopping the cycle as well im still feeling very tired. Went to the doctors for a blood test and told him about my cycle , the tests came out with High RBC and Hematocrit.  He has asked me to do a few more tests for B12 and ferritin.  Is it normal to have a high RBC and feel tired, i am still not 100% even after stopping the cycle 2 months back.
 
#1
    BulkPowders.co.uk BulkPowders.co.uk - Whey Protein from only £7.99/kg. HIGHEST Quality! Guaranteed PERFECT mixing, LOWEST price in Europe! Supplied in food-grade container at no extra cost!
    dementia

    • Total Posts : 3838
    • Reward points : 6541
    • Joined: 06/01/2005
    • Location: Norfolk
    • Status: offline
    • Read my TROG
    Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 30 January 2012 13:21 (permalink)

    Is it normal to have a high RBC

     
    Yes, all aas will do this. Some more than others.
     

    i am still not 100% even after stopping the cycle 2 months back

     
    Probably not recovered yet then, give it time and you should be fine.
     








       You gotta love livin', baby, 'cause dyin' is a pain in the ass.       
     
    #2
      Kensou09

      • Total Posts : 61
      • Reward points : 4584
      • Joined: 11/03/2006
      • Status: offline
      • Read my TROG
      Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 30 January 2012 13:24 (permalink)
      Is there anything i can take to recover faster?
       
      #3
        cwire

        • Total Posts : 141
        • Reward points : 934
        • Joined: 14/07/2011
        • Location: Widnes
        • Status: offline
        • Read my TROG
        Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 30 January 2012 13:42 (permalink)
        I have  been for a bood test recently and found to have high ferritin levels yet my cycle ending in september. I had a blood test in November but it didnt show then, seems wired that it shows now. I have been for a HFE geno test today i wonder if i should tell them i have been on gear.
         
        #4
          Kensou09

          • Total Posts : 61
          • Reward points : 4584
          • Joined: 11/03/2006
          • Status: offline
          • Read my TROG
          Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 30 January 2012 13:44 (permalink)
          I was asked to do a b12 and ferritin test today by my GP which i have done, will have to wait until next week for the results.
           
          #5
            cwire

            • Total Posts : 141
            • Reward points : 934
            • Joined: 14/07/2011
            • Location: Widnes
            • Status: offline
            • Read my TROG
            Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 30 January 2012 14:16 (permalink)
            I get my resuts on Wednesday so will post back here with what she says.

             
            #6
              Keane

              • Total Posts : 1490
              • Reward points : 4798
              • Joined: 24/08/2006
              • Status: offline
              • Read my TROG
              Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 30 January 2012 14:20 (permalink)
              I'm have lethargy and tirdness, been on test cruising for 3 months and I have bloods done tomorrow. I'm waking up feeling like sh1t and can't brush my teeth properly due to low energy just general lethargy.
               
              Sorry to hijack, but this has shed some light on another possible cause.
               
              Hope you recover well matey.
               
              www.elite-n.co.uk  (Elite-Nutrition)
               
              #7
                Kensou09

                • Total Posts : 61
                • Reward points : 4584
                • Joined: 11/03/2006
                • Status: offline
                • Read my TROG
                Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 16 February 2012 18:22 (permalink)
                Update :
                 
                Got my results back and my RBC was a bit lower that before but still not in the normal range. Ferritin and B12 were normal.  was doing some research and giving Blood was recommmended with tiredness symptoms.  I cant give blood due to steroid Use. Is there any other place like "The Doctor Ltd" that can help me with this ? 
                 
                #8
                  cwire

                  • Total Posts : 141
                  • Reward points : 934
                  • Joined: 14/07/2011
                  • Location: Widnes
                  • Status: offline
                  • Read my TROG
                  Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 16 February 2012 19:30 (permalink)
                  There is some info you doctor is forgetting to tell you, Ferritin level are used in blood tests for markers, meaning if you have higher levels of ferritin then you have an infection else where.
                   
                  My ferritin levels were at 834 but i got treated for a chest infection all ok now
                   
                  #9
                    Kensou09

                    • Total Posts : 61
                    • Reward points : 4584
                    • Joined: 11/03/2006
                    • Status: offline
                    • Read my TROG
                    Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 16 February 2012 19:42 (permalink)
                    cwire


                    There is some info you doctor is forgetting to tell you, Ferritin level are used in blood tests for markers, meaning if you have higher levels of ferritin then you have an infection else where.

                    My ferritin levels were at 834 but i got treated for a chest infection all ok now

                    My ferritin levels were normal and he didnt mention anything about other infection. He just said my RBC has gone down and " In time" it will be normal. But i am still feeling lethargic  and wanted to feel normal asap.
                     
                    #10
                      MRENIGMA

                      • Total Posts : 2725
                      • Reward points : 2172
                      • Joined: 07/02/2010
                      • Status: offline
                      • Read my TROG
                      Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 18 February 2012 11:38 (permalink)
                      Did you run a decent PCT?
                      I was on for 10months, stopped in october, ran 6week PCT and taper, and i feel fine already, but will be getting tested soon hopefully.
                      Doctorltd sounds a bit dodgy, i could only contact through email, i never got to talk to anyone, i was asked to go down there, get bloods taken, then leave, set up a paypal account and send money via paypal, then once they recieve it they will just send me my results???
                      So i found, the medical practise in wales, they sound good and i'll be going there.
                      why did you tell your doctor? is he supportive in helping you with blood tests etc?
                      New cycle 3rd May 2012
                      12 weeks
                      2ml tri-test500
                      Starting weight 88kg
                      Finish weight ??kg

                       

                       
                      #11
                        Kensou09

                        • Total Posts : 61
                        • Reward points : 4584
                        • Joined: 11/03/2006
                        • Status: offline
                        • Read my TROG
                        Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 18 February 2012 21:57 (permalink)
                        MRENIGMA


                        Did you run a decent PCT?
                        I was on for 10months, stopped in october, ran 6week PCT and taper, and i feel fine already, but will be getting tested soon hopefully.
                        Doctorltd sounds a bit dodgy, i could only contact through email, i never got to talk to anyone, i was asked to go down there, get bloods taken, then leave, set up a paypal account and send money via paypal, then once they recieve it they will just send me my results???
                        So i found, the medical practise in wales, they sound good and i'll be going there.
                        why did you tell your doctor? is he supportive in helping you with blood tests etc?

                         
                        I ran PCT with Nolvadex and 6 oxo , My doctor is quite supportive with the blood tests but the time taken to get the results and setup an appointment again is very long. Done 2 blood tests so far and RBC count went down by from 5.63 to 5.53 so my GP said that he wont give any medication as the RBC is reducing. BUT man this tiredness is killing me..
                         
                        #12
                          dementia

                          • Total Posts : 3838
                          • Reward points : 6541
                          • Joined: 06/01/2005
                          • Location: Norfolk
                          • Status: offline
                          • Read my TROG
                          Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 19 February 2012 08:52 (permalink)

                          Done 2 blood tests so far and RBC count went down by from 5.63 to 5.53 so my GP said that he wont give any medication as the RBC is reducing.

                           
                          Red blood cells live for up to 120 days so rbc count  probably wont be right till march/april.








                             You gotta love livin', baby, 'cause dyin' is a pain in the ass.       
                           
                          #13
                            Kensou09

                            • Total Posts : 61
                            • Reward points : 4584
                            • Joined: 11/03/2006
                            • Status: offline
                            • Read my TROG
                            Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 25 March 2012 12:05 (permalink)
                            Did another blood test and RBC counts almost normal,  Haemoglobin is Normal , Hameotrcit is Normal. Doctors have done tests for Kidney , Liver , Thyroid and every possible things that cause fatigue and It was all normal.
                             
                            Havent been to the gym for 4 months. 
                            Was training very heavy before that..  CNS should have been recovered in 4 months right?
                             
                            Any possiblities what is causing this fatigue?? 
                             
                            #14
                              numpty

                              • Total Posts : 866
                              • Reward points : 3896
                              • Joined: 16/02/2008
                              • Location: TRAPPED IN MY OWN HEAD.
                              • Status: offline
                              • Read my TROG
                              Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 25 March 2012 12:40 (permalink)
                              Do you  sleep  well  ?  do  you feel  depressed ?? 
                               
                              Reason I ask  is I have a  sleep  disorder  AND   depression  ( whoopee  for  me   )  and feel  knackered  most  of  the  time  . I  also  have  a high  RBC   count   ( not gear  related,  but  from  sleep  disorder )  and take a 75mg  asprin  tablet  every  day  on  my GP's  orders  , to 'thin'  my  blood.
                              DEADLIFT..200k  x  5  
                              SQUAT..150k  X 7 for 3 sets 
                              BENCH...125 K X 5  for 3 sets 
                                
                              OVERHEAD PRESS..85K


                              AVATAR  IS  Paul George.. NOT me... 
                               
                              #15
                                Kensou09

                                • Total Posts : 61
                                • Reward points : 4584
                                • Joined: 11/03/2006
                                • Status: offline
                                • Read my TROG
                                Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 25 March 2012 12:50 (permalink)
                                numpty


                                Do you  sleep  well  ?  do  you feel  depressed ?? 

                                Reason I ask  is I have a  sleep  disorder  AND   depression  ( whoopee  for  me   )  and feel  knackered  most  of  the  time  . I  also  have  a high  RBC   count   ( not gear  related,  but  from  sleep  disorder )  and take a 75mg  asprin  tablet  every  day  on  my GP's  orders  , to 'thin'  my  blood.

                                I used to sleep 12 hours a day when my haemoglobin was high. and no depression mate... My haemotrrit is normal so the aspirin wont do anything.  What do you do for your sleep disorder?
                                 
                                #16
                                  numpty

                                  • Total Posts : 866
                                  • Reward points : 3896
                                  • Joined: 16/02/2008
                                  • Location: TRAPPED IN MY OWN HEAD.
                                  • Status: offline
                                  • Read my TROG
                                  Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 25 March 2012 20:15 (permalink)
                                  Kensou09


                                  numpty


                                  Do you  sleep  well  ?  do  you feel  depressed ?? 

                                  Reason I ask  is I have a  sleep  disorder  AND   depression  ( whoopee  for  me   )  and feel  knackered  most  of  the  time  . I  also  have  a high  RBC   count   ( not gear  related,  but  from  sleep  disorder )  and take a 75mg  asprin  tablet  every  day  on  my GP's  orders  , to 'thin'  my  blood.

                                  I used to sleep 12 hours a day when my haemoglobin was high. and no depression mate... My haemotrrit is normal so the aspirin wont do anything.  What do you do for your sleep disorder?

                                  I  have sleep  Apnea  and use  a CPAP  machine  for  that.  My  sleep  is  also  crap due to the depression  as  the 2  influence  each  other  . If  I sleep  well  the  depression   is  more  manageable  the  next  day.
                                  DEADLIFT..200k  x  5  
                                  SQUAT..150k  X 7 for 3 sets 
                                  BENCH...125 K X 5  for 3 sets 
                                    
                                  OVERHEAD PRESS..85K


                                  AVATAR  IS  Paul George.. NOT me... 
                                   
                                  #17
                                    MRENIGMA

                                    • Total Posts : 2725
                                    • Reward points : 2172
                                    • Joined: 07/02/2010
                                    • Status: offline
                                    • Read my TROG
                                    Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 25 March 2012 21:29 (permalink)
                                    Danny187 has sleep apnea, is it linked at allfrom the use of steroids?
                                    New cycle 3rd May 2012
                                    12 weeks
                                    2ml tri-test500
                                    Starting weight 88kg
                                    Finish weight ??kg

                                     

                                     
                                    #18
                                      Danny187

                                      • Total Posts : 8386
                                      • Reward points : 3608
                                      • Joined: 30/12/2008
                                      • Status: offline
                                      • Read my TROG
                                      Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 25 March 2012 21:35 (permalink)
                                      MRENIGMA


                                      Danny187 has sleep apnea, is it linked at allfrom the use of steroids?


                                      Yeah I have it

                                      It is not from steroids, Professor thinks I have had this for years and finally I couldnt cope, based on med records for 8 years

                                      We discussed training, diet, ped usage, found it strange that I had it at my weight but after examining it is because I have very small airways, a big tongue and a very soft palette in the throat

                                      April 26th is next appointment......

                                      As for gear I suppose If I gained 20lbs of water I would have it worse :) 
                                      "Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but by what you should have accomplished with your ability." 
                                       
                                      #19
                                        Kensou09

                                        • Total Posts : 61
                                        • Reward points : 4584
                                        • Joined: 11/03/2006
                                        • Status: offline
                                        • Read my TROG
                                        Re:HIGH RBC Count and Hematocrit 25 March 2012 22:01 (permalink)
                                        I weigh around 170 . Is Sleep Apnea possible at my weight? I do wake up in the night after 4-5 hours sometimes.. and this started after steroid use.  Was reading a bit more and Sleep Apnea is a symptom of secondary polycthemia ( Increase of RBC's). 
                                         
                                        Also i used to Smoke during Cycle.
                                         
                                        #20
                                          Share/Bookmark
                                          Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 23


                                          Volume Training (VT) Routine
                                          Jump to:

                                          Current active users

                                          There are 0 members and 1 guests.

                                          Icon Legend and Permission

                                          • New Messages
                                          • No New Messages
                                          • Hot Topic w/ New Messages
                                          • Hot Topic w/o New Messages
                                          • Locked w/ New Messages
                                          • Locked w/o New Messages
                                          • Read Message
                                          • Post New Thread
                                          • Reply to message
                                          • Post New Poll
                                          • Submit Vote
                                          • Post reward post
                                          • Delete my own posts
                                          • Delete my own threads
                                          • Rate post

                                          2000-2012 ASPPlayground.NET Forum Version 3.9
                                          Go To Top Of Page