Haye vs Valuev

I had for Valuev by 2 rounds. Haye ran away until the last round and landed 2 shots per round before that!

Was shocked Haye got the decision - particularly in Germany - though this is boxing.

Don't know how much that was to do with the hand injury he mentioned...?

Either way all his claims of humilation and that fell by the wayside!

I look forward to Vitali eventually KOing him! Will make a better spectacle than that fight, hopefully they will trade at some point in theur fight

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I was watching the fight on a live stream but I can't stand american commentators. So I had the sound down and the radio five live commentary on.

They were incredibly pro Haye. So much so that I got the impression that they were watching an entirely different fight to me.

Yes Haye won IMO, but they were saying things like "Haye has pulverised the giant here tonight" and "He's dished out an incredible beating".

Just goes to show how easy things can be skewed if you don't get to see it with your own eyes.

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Yep. Sky have always been anti-Haye for some reason.

Criticise him for banging instead of boxing then criticise him for boxing instead of banging.

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I had for Valuev by 2 rounds. Haye ran away until the last round and landed 2 shots per round before that!

Was shocked Haye got the decision - particularly in Germany - though this is boxing.

Don't know how much that was to do with the hand injury he mentioned...?

Either way all his claims of humilation and that fell by the wayside!

I look forward to Vitali eventually KOing him! Will make a better spectacle than that fight, hopefully they will trade at some point in theur fight

just cos your lumbering forward throwing shots all the time doesnt mean you should win!!  he didnt land anything the whole fight!!  haye's punches were far more accurate. and his great footwork and head movement (or runnign away as you call it) was a pleasure to see!!  boxing not just about standing there and throwing punches toe to toe, its about 'boxing'

and that great oaf got outboxed by the better man!  anyone who thinks that rusky won knows nothing about boxing clearly

I dont think anyone in their right mind would stand toe to toe with someone a foot taller and 7 stone heavier.

There are photos doing the rounds showing a badly swollen hand. Not sure of their authenticity. Those who are on facebook should visit his page, its quite funny.

Haye was just on BBC breakfast news. Seems a real decent bloke without all the bravado.
 
His right hand was strapped, said he landed a big overhand right in the second which would normally put blokes down but it had no effect on Valuev and bust his hand!

have to agree with integra and ODOG- i couldnt believe the unnoficial score card they were puttin up.. watched it in the pub and everyone was groanin and shouting each time the card came up.. i said t my mate i was worried they would score it for valuev as he 'seemed to be doing more', when in fact all he was doin was missing, and haye was landing good shots scoring points..
when the first judge called it a draw and the next 2 scored it a win by 4 rounds, i had a horrid feeling they had given it to valuev.. very chuffed haye won tho!! boxed well and stuck to a game plan that worked very well.. was v clever as manyu others tend to stray from game plans and do somehtin different.. and as integra said- who the **** is gonna try and trade shot for shot with a 7'2 guy who has what must have been a 15" reach advnatage and 7 stone in weight... its ridiculous!!

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what a boring fight i'm glad i didn't pay to see it

was very close imo

there was more action in one round in the sexton/rogan fight than this sh1te

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I had haye ahead by 9 rounds to 3.

i thought the judges would have had it 7 to 5.

Haye was never hurt, valuev was.  Haye landed clean, valuev didn't.

While neither had a decent work rate, there was only one winner.

That said I had froch 8 rounds to 4 when he fought dirrel, so shows what I know.

odog


just cos your lumbering forward throwing shots all the time doesnt mean you should win!!  he didnt land anything the whole fight!!  haye's punches were far more accurate. and his great footwork and head movement (or runnign away as you call it) was a pleasure to see!!  boxing not just about standing there and throwing punches toe to toe, its about 'boxing'

and that great oaf got outboxed by the better man!  anyone who thinks that rusky won knows nothing about boxing clearly

Okay you feel better now lol. Sweeping statements aside, anyone who knows anything about boxing  - and doesn't have union jack tinted specs - would admit it was close and many rounds could have went either way as it's a very subjective sport!
 
Haye was simply dancing away outside for too much of the fight and Valuev was cathching him with the jab maybe 1/3, far more agressive and for a big slow lump was not doing too badly at closing down the space.
 
Haye landed harder, technically superior shots, but I guess I was watching it from the perspective that he was in germany trying to take Valuev's belt and I thought Valuev did enough to grind out the win in that fight.
 
When I heard he had broke his hand I thought that would partly explain his complete reluctance to throw it when he was slipping Valuev's punches. Looking at their KO records, Valuev isn't a particularly big hitter: Haye is.
 
I was fairly neutral, leaning slightly towards Haye winning as I told everyone in work he would on points. I was shocked by 4 round margins.
 

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odog


just cos your lumbering forward throwing shots all the time doesnt mean you should win!!  he didnt land anything the whole fight!!  haye's punches were far more accurate. and his great footwork and head movement (or runnign away as you call it) was a pleasure to see!!  boxing not just about standing there and throwing punches toe to toe, its about 'boxing'

and that great oaf got outboxed by the better man!  anyone who thinks that rusky won knows nothing about boxing clearly

Okay you feel better now lol. Sweeping statements aside, anyone who knows anything about boxing  - and doesn't have union jack tinted specs - would admit it was close and many rounds could have went either way as it's a very subjective sport!
 
Haye was simply dancing away outside for too much of the fight and Valuev was cathching him with the jab maybe 1/3, far more agressive and for a big slow lump was not doing too badly at closing down the space.
 
Haye landed harder, technically superior shots, but I guess I was watching it from the perspective that he was in germany trying to take Valuev's belt and I thought Valuev did enough to grind out the win in that fight.
 
When I heard he had broke his hand I thought that would partly explain his complete reluctance to throw it when he was slipping Valuev's punches. Looking at their KO records, Valuev isn't a particularly big hitter: Haye is.
 
I was fairly neutral, leaning slightly towards Haye winning as I told everyone in work he would on points. I was shocked by 4 round margins.
 

nuff said!!

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odog


just cos your lumbering forward throwing shots all the time doesnt mean you should win!!  he didnt land anything the whole fight!!  haye's punches were far more accurate. and his great footwork and head movement (or runnign away as you call it) was a pleasure to see!!  boxing not just about standing there and throwing punches toe to toe, its about 'boxing'

and that great oaf got outboxed by the better man!  anyone who thinks that rusky won knows nothing about boxing clearly

Okay you feel better now lol. Sweeping statements aside, anyone who knows anything about boxing  - and doesn't have union jack tinted specs - would admit it was close and many rounds could have went either way as it's a very subjective sport!
 
Haye was simply dancing away outside for too much of the fight and Valuev was cathching him with the jab maybe 1/3, far more agressive and for a big slow lump was not doing too badly at closing down the space.
 
Haye landed harder, technically superior shots, but I guess I was watching it from the perspective that he was in germany trying to take Valuev's belt and I thought Valuev did enough to grind out the win in that fight.
 
When I heard he had broke his hand I thought that would partly explain his complete reluctance to throw it when he was slipping Valuev's punches. Looking at their KO records, Valuev isn't a particularly big hitter: Haye is.
 
I was fairly neutral, leaning slightly towards Haye winning as I told everyone in work he would on points. I was shocked by 4 round margins.
 

Can you explain how Valuev did enough to win enough rounds to make it a close decision?
 
Yes he was coming forwards but he was not landing anything.
 
It was not a close fight, the better man won. Quite clearly too.
 
Jesus, how anyone could score that fight in favour of Valuev continues to amaze me.

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odog


just cos your lumbering forward throwing shots all the time doesnt mean you should win!!  he didnt land anything the whole fight!!  haye's punches were far more accurate. and his great footwork and head movement (or runnign away as you call it) was a pleasure to see!!  boxing not just about standing there and throwing punches toe to toe, its about 'boxing'

and that great oaf got outboxed by the better man!  anyone who thinks that rusky won knows nothing about boxing clearly

Okay you feel better now lol. Sweeping statements aside, anyone who knows anything about boxing  - and doesn't have union jack tinted specs - would admit it was close and many rounds could have went either way as it's a very subjective sport!
 
Haye was simply dancing away outside for too much of the fight and Valuev was cathching him with the jab maybe 1/3, far more agressive and for a big slow lump was not doing too badly at closing down the space.
 
Haye landed harder, technically superior shots, but I guess I was watching it from the perspective that he was in germany trying to take Valuev's belt and I thought Valuev did enough to grind out the win in that fight.
 
When I heard he had broke his hand I thought that would partly explain his complete reluctance to throw it when he was slipping Valuev's punches. Looking at their KO records, Valuev isn't a particularly big hitter: Haye is.
 
I was fairly neutral, leaning slightly towards Haye winning as I told everyone in work he would on points. I was shocked by 4 round margins.
 

care to be anymore patronising mate...??

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odog


just cos your lumbering forward throwing shots all the time doesnt mean you should win!!  he didnt land anything the whole fight!!  haye's punches were far more accurate. and his great footwork and head movement (or runnign away as you call it) was a pleasure to see!!  boxing not just about standing there and throwing punches toe to toe, its about 'boxing'

and that great oaf got outboxed by the better man!  anyone who thinks that rusky won knows nothing about boxing clearly

Okay you feel better now lol. Sweeping statements aside, anyone who knows anything about boxing  - and doesn't have union jack tinted specs - would admit it was close and many rounds could have went either way as it's a very subjective sport!

Haye was simply dancing away outside for too much of the fight and Valuev was cathching him with the jab maybe 1/3, far more agressive and for a big slow lump was not doing too badly at closing down the space.

Haye landed harder, technically superior shots, but I guess I was watching it from the perspective that he was in germany trying to take Valuev's belt and I thought Valuev did enough to grind out the win in that fight.

When I heard he had broke his hand I thought that would partly explain his complete reluctance to throw it when he was slipping Valuev's punches. Looking at their KO records, Valuev isn't a particularly big hitter: Haye is.

I was fairly neutral, leaning slightly towards Haye winning as I told everyone in work he would on points. I was shocked by 4 round margins.

care to be anymore patronising mate...??

Have a closer look. Was tongue in cheek.

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Integra


Can you explain how Valuev did enough to win enough rounds to make it a close decision?
 
Yes he was coming forwards but he was not landing anything.
 
It was not a close fight, the better man won. Quite clearly too.
 
Jesus, how anyone could score that fight in favour of Valuev continues to amaze me.

Not any more better than saying I disagree that Valuev wasn't landing 'anything'. He was throwing more and landing more than Haye; albeit not with a lot of power. Haye just wasn't willing to engage for far far too much of the fight IMO. I was genuinely suprised when Haye was anounced as the winner.
 
Tbh I'd have to watch it again - free of alcohol - and that's not something I'd be willing to do in a hurry lol.

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Integra


Can you explain how Valuev did enough to win enough rounds to make it a close decision?
 
Yes he was coming forwards but he was not landing anything.
 
It was not a close fight, the better man won. Quite clearly too.
 
Jesus, how anyone could score that fight in favour of Valuev continues to amaze me.

Not any more better than saying I disagree that Valuev wasn't landing 'anything'. He was throwing more and landing more than Haye; albeit not with a lot of power. Haye just wasn't willing to engage for far far too much of the fight IMO. I was genuinely suprised when Haye was anounced as the winner.
 
Tbh I'd have to watch it again - free of alcohol - and that's not something I'd be willing to do in a hurry lol.

I am very confident that Haye landed more punches than Valuev.
 
He fought a very good fight and made it look very easy.

I watched the fight in Germany. The German commentator was shocked that the spanish judge called an even score. For everyone in Germany, Henry Maske as guest etc. Haye was a clear winner.

mystical- valuev didnt land more punches at all mate.. i think maybe u do need t watch it without the drink.. valuev threw more, but missed a v high %age of what he threw..
haye threw less, but connected with a v high %age..imo, punches thrown and missed shouldnt be enough to count in ur favour..punches landed win u a fight!!!!!!!

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True, if haye deserved that victory, then andre dirrell deserved to win against froch!