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Haye vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 01:13 ( #1 )
 

 
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 06:49 ( #2 )
Surprised me but Haye is 8/11 favourite on Betfair against Valuev at 7/5. Draw 54/1

Valuev seems a good price to me. 7st heavier and a big reach and height advantage
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 09:10 ( #3 )
lol that picture looks like when someone goes to a BB Comp to meet there fav BB.. Haye looks like a Valuev groupie!

Valuev seems like a good bet
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 09:23 ( #4 )
Haye wins easily.
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 12:23 ( #5 )
Haye wide UD I reckon


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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 14:22 ( #6 )
If it goes the distance, then Haye by UD. Hope Haye does not get reckless and caught with a big uppercut etc..

Cant really see Haye stopping him, Valuev's head is so high up its difficult to get a clean powerful punch on it.

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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 14:30 ( #7 )
If haye keeps the fight up close and personal, and works well inside I'm sure Valuev will have problems with such long arms, however that weight leaning on him will be hard. Will be an interesting fight. Just hope haye's jaw can take it as he posseses a powerful punch. Can't see it going the distance.
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 15:01 ( #8 )
Valuev doesnt have KO power, doesnt throw the uppercut and doesnt lean on his opponents to wear them down.

Outboxed by Holyfield and hurt by John Ruiz ffs.

Easy route to a title for Haye.
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 15:10 ( #9 )
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Valuev doesnt have KO power, doesnt throw the uppercut and doesnt lean on his opponents to wear them down.

Outboxed by Holyfield and hurt by John Ruiz ffs.

Easy route to a title for Haye.


Meant it as haye having powerful punch but does read the other way round though!
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 15:37 ( #10 )
Haye 16st 6lb. Must have misheard. 15st 8lb
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 16:36 ( #11 )
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Valuev doesnt have KO power, doesnt throw the uppercut and doesnt lean on his opponents to wear them down.

Outboxed by Holyfield and hurt by John Ruiz ffs.

Easy route to a title for Haye.


Neither man has concussive one hit power IMO.

If Haye had serious power then his opponents would not be up and down like a dogs proverbial every time he lands cleanly.

He hit Carl Thompson with everything except the ringpost and he did not phase the old boy.

Thompson has a very good chin but has seen the canvas on occassion and Haye could not put him there.

My view on this fight....Haye to look good and fast, landing very well and staying out the way well.

Haye to be well up on points when he starts to gas, gets sloppy and gets tagged. His chin is not great IMO. Off the floor to win against Mock very early in his career, a stopage by the old boy Thompson and down against Mormeck. "Slip" against Barrett.

I hope Haye can do it but he will have to work hard, stay sharp and work fast, while
having this big lump leaning on him. All this leads to fatigue and i hope Haye has trained for a 12 rounder.





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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 16:51 ( #12 )
What time's the anticipated start...10ish according to SkySports?
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 16:51 ( #13 )
What time's the anticipated start...10ish according to SkySports?
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 17:10 ( #14 )
I think the sheer size and weight advantage will be too much for Haye
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 19:23 ( #15 )
I think Haye is taking this fight lightly but saying that IMO over the last year hes gone from quite an arrogant man to simply being a knob with a gob. Quite liked the guy a while back but hope he gets hammered by anyone these days.

I share Kingleans views on the fight.

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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 19:52 ( #16 )
I think Haye is the best thing to happen to the heavyweight division for a few years. He has a mouth but most of that is IMO for cash.
He has loads talking about this fight now, people who without Haye's mouth normally wouldn't have even known the fight was happening.

I really hope he wins, I'm sure he will.....it'll certainly liven up the boring ****e that is the heavy weight division
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 22:04 ( #17 )
drab4


Haye wide UD I reckon


in Germany?

not bloody likely

if you've stuck with that routine for so long and not gained anything on your arms its a sign it aint working.


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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 06 November 2009 23:09 ( #18 )
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drab4


Haye wide UD I reckon


in Germany?

not bloody likely

I'm thinking Haye will win convincingly enough they'll have to give it to him

Maybe I'm giving the Germans too much credit, we know what they're like with their own fighters, but with foreigners based in Germany maybe not so much


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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 07 November 2009 00:35 ( #19 )
agree with neb only decent heavywieght with any kind of pedigree we've seen for a while. 
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Re:Hayve vs Valuev - 07 November 2009 18:12 ( #20 )
where can i watch fight online
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