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H-drol for 4 weeks? 21 October 2009 17:26 (permalink)
I know on MT people recommend running h-drol for 6 weeks but on US forums they don't recommend any methyl to be run for more than 4 weeks.  Is there any value in their concerns? 
 
I ran epi for 8 weeks before and I felt fine throughout and post-cycle, but I'd like to run a shorter cycle 2nd time round.  What about h-drol for 4 weeks at 75-100mg ED rather than the usual 50-75mg for 6 weeks?
 
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    Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 21 October 2009 20:20 (permalink)
    Do whatever your going to do, you want a short cycle so run a short cycle, even if we tell you our opinions you still only want a short cycle so why change your mind.................your the boss
     
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      Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 21 October 2009 20:34 (permalink)
      The reason why ppl tend yo run Hdrol for longer cycles is because is a lot milder than things like SD, and it takes longer to "kick in".

      That's not to say that you can't run Hdrol for 4 weeks though, but to be honest mate, if you're looking at a short cycle, you would be better of running something like Superdrol IMO, esp if you're mass building and want strength gains too. Plus you could just run that for 3 weeks @ 20mg.

      Ultimately though, and as Condor also said, it is completely up to you.
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        Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 21 October 2009 20:52 (permalink)
        I ran H-drol for 6 weeks, but didn't really notice much more in the last two weeks.

        Run for 4 weeks at 75mg IMO.


         
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          Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 21 October 2009 22:08 (permalink)
          I think this is one case where I side with US members. I think long cycles are unneceassary and, given the longer recovery period and risk of side effects, counter-productive.
           
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            Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 21 October 2009 23:02 (permalink)
            Many people in the US also recommend h-drol be ran for more than 4 weeks.  I have read countless threads stating so.

            H-drol is a compound that kicks in rather late, so it's not particularily suited to a short cycle (despite the original halodrol only being a 30 day cycle).  If you're after a shorter cycle, then i'd consider another compound: one that 'kicks' in a little quicker such as SD or PP, IMO

             
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              Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 14:59 (permalink)
              Agree with skull and daari, if you felt fine on 8 weeks epi you should be fine on 6 week hdrol.

              6 weeker imo cap.
               
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                Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 15:27 (permalink)
                What would be wrong with a 5 week cycle?

                It's probably what I will run when next running h-drol, at 100mg ed.
                 
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                  Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 15:28 (permalink)
                  Sorry little sidetrack:
                  How long does it usually take for the likes of Hdrol or Hroid to kick in or at least feel/notice something? i was expecting 3 weeks ish?
                   
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                    Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 16:00 (permalink)
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                    Sorry little sidetrack:
                    How long does it usually take for the likes of Hdrol or Hroid to kick in or at least feel/notice something? i was expecting 3 weeks ish?


                    Yeah 3 weeks ish mate, maybe glimpses in week 2.
                     
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                      Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 17:17 (permalink)
                      Celt


                      What would be wrong with a 5 week cycle?

                      It's probably what I will run when next running h-drol, at 100mg ed.


                      what's your PCT gonna be with this mate?
                       
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                        Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 17:30 (permalink)
                        yeh to hell with it, i'll do a 6 week hdrol or maybe 4 week protodrol...decisions decisions!
                         
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                          Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 17:43 (permalink)
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                          yeh to hell with it, i'll do a 6 week hdrol or maybe 4 week protodrol...decisions decisions!


                          So many choices its so hard too chose, go for SD and you wont look back bro! :D
                           
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                            Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 17:52 (permalink)
                            dont want to risk my hair!
                             
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                              Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 17:56 (permalink)
                              My dads bald it didnt agravate hairloss anymore bro.
                               
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                                Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 22 October 2009 22:41 (permalink)
                                Celt


                                What would be wrong with a 5 week cycle?

                                It's probably what I will run when next running h-drol, at 100mg ed.


                                Absolutely nothing.  Some say the gains slow down after 5 weeks anyway.
                                 
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                                  Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 23 October 2009 07:50 (permalink)
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                                  dont want to risk my hair!



                                  SD isn't any more likely than any other choice of OTS steroid for reports of hairloss from all I've seen mate. Reality is that different compounds affect different people in different ways - whether you will get any hairloss at all from any compound is a risk we all take when we use them.


                                  Daari

                                  Absolutely nothing.  Some say the gains slow down after 5 weeks anyway.



                                  That has been my experience too, 5 weeks is ideal for h-drol ime.


                                  danchubbz

                                   what's your PCT gonna be with this mate?



                                  Raloxifene at 60mg ed for 20 days, likely alongside albuterol at 16mg ed

                                   
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                                    Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 23 October 2009 11:21 (permalink)
                                    Celt


                                    Captain T

                                    dont want to risk my hair!



                                    SD isn't any more likely than any other choice of OTS steroid for reports of hairloss from all I've seen mate. Reality is that different compounds affect different people in different ways - whether you will get any hairloss at all from any compound is a risk we all take when we use them.


                                    Daari

                                    Absolutely nothing.  Some say the gains slow down after 5 weeks anyway.



                                    That has been my experience too, 5 weeks is ideal for h-drol ime.


                                    danchubbz

                                    what's your PCT gonna be with this mate?



                                    Raloxifene at 60mg ed for 20 days, likely alongside albuterol at 16mg ed


                                    so you're sticking to the SERM route then?
                                     
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                                      Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 23 October 2009 13:39 (permalink)
                                      I would say that if hairloss is a concern milder prohormones make for better choices than superdrol which is more androgenic based on what I have seen.

                                      Adding to this, I will say though that I have designed hair prevention stacks based on a variety of products which will prevent and reverse hair loss should it occur. A base product for this would be Propecia, or, if especially concerned, Avodart.

                                      I do not recommend them if maximum muscle mass is a goal though as you will lose the strength building effects of DHT mediated via its strong CNS effects, plus its anti-estrogenic and fat burning benefits.
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                                        Re:H-drol for 4 weeks? 23 October 2009 14:24 (permalink)
                                        danchubbz

                                        so you're sticking to the SERM route then?




                                        Yes mate, have mostly used nolva to date but recently ran raloxifene to good effect. Without talking costs pharma raloxifene is a no-brainer compared to ots.
                                         
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