HiPaCC :: The Dietary Revolution

Hi - welcome to MT and to HiPaCC
I don't count calories as there's more to it than this.
Which level of the diet are you following?

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hi thanks for the welcome, great site! I have been following the testosterone advantage plan to date, men's health book. I haven't yet started on the diet, was planning on starting Monday on level 2, although I might be better off in level 1. I have mainly a sedentary job. I can see there is a lot more than calorie counting in the diet, I presently split calories protein- 243g, carbs 247g and fats 110g.(as suggested by the testosterone advantage plan book).I am eating similar foods to your diet. Thanks

If you go for level 2, then I wouldn't adjust the portions.  I would simply include a post workout protein whey shake

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Thanks for your help, I will give it a blast. 1 last question should I be eating a certain amount of protein?

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Thanks for your help, I will give it a blast. 1 last question should I be eating a certain amount of protein?

Not really, eat good protein regularly and don't worry about the figures

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Hi
 
I bought this last year and at the time I lost 12lb in six weeks including a break week for still healthy but less stringent dieting.  Unfortunately had to come off it for financial reasons and we are just now getting back to it.  Started again a week ago and seems to be going well so far, about a 3 lb loss this week.
 
One thing that is bugging me though, is the meat is very boring and this is particularly the case on the 3 no carb days when there is even less variety in what I get to put on a plate.  Usually we eat alot of cracked black peppercorns on meat and flavour chicken with squeezed lemon juice too.  Is there anything in these foods that will affect the diet?

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Good to see you back on it.  There's nothing wrong with flavouring the meat with peppercorns and lemon juice.  Mustard and such like are fine too.

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Thanks for the reply James.
 
Just one more thing that confuses me a little is the mention on page 39 of a treat day on Friday.  Is this already built in to the diet? Or is it a chance to include something a little extra on top? Friday is normally a bad day for me as I have work and usually end up with a headache by mid-afternoon when keeping to this diet so I'm hoping the latter :)

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You could have a (sensible) treat of your own choice in the diet.  Watch the portion size though

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Well it was going well, lost a decent amount but we had a death in the family and life became to prepare food properly and follow as we had no idea where we would be from one day to the next.  Going back on from Monday now things are clearning up a little.  Both lost around 4lb in 2 weeks with not too much exercise at all.

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Sorry to hear about the family loss.
 
Keep us posted when you're back on it

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Amazed there aren't more people on this and that the thread is so quiet. Seems like a decent diet which a lot of hard work has gone in to.
 
I have a couple of questions if that's ok?
 
Firstly, I'm self-employed and spend a lot of time at the computer. I get up early (6.00am) and like to do 30 minutes of cardio on an exercise bike before anything else. I'm guessing this is ok?
 
Secondly, I get up early but I also go to bed quite late, and if I space out the diet as suggested in the book then there's a period where I'm not eating at all for quite a few hours. I have to eat my dinner at around 5.15pm, along with the family, but I won't go to bed until around midnight. That's a long time to be going without any food at all, so what can I have as an extra meal around 7.30-8.00pm which won't be bad on this diet? A little bit of Muesli? A sandwich? A protein shake? Any suggestions would be helpful as I'd like to stick to the times suggested but I don't want to be hungry and give in to something else during that evening period.
 
Thirdly, is a scraping of low fat mayo ok on a sandwich (with wholegrain bread)? I'm talking a teaspoon if that. And what about a teaspoon of butter or spread on a medium sized baked potato?
 
Thanks a lot. I look forward to seeing how this works out for me, as the Palumbo Keto diet was just too hardcore for me to last on it. Did 6 weeks and it just got too much and was too boring without ANY carbs at all. This looks very achievable, which I like.

Hi
 
1) Yes, but any more exercise would be advantageous
 
2) Yes, it sounds like you would benefit from a little snack here - about 25g museli in skimmed milk on training days, or a 20g whey shake on non-training days
 
3) It's ok, but keep minimal
 

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Thanks a lot, James.
 
"Any more exercise"? Like the weight training you mean, or something else?
 
Seems like quite a lot of carbs throughout Monday - Thursday. Is it designed that way specifically? I'll be honest, I've read quite a bit of the book but not all of it, so I don't know what the breakdown is daily.

It's not a lot of carbs: well depends which of the 3 levels you're on

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I'm doing level 2.
 
For instance, last night's meal was 50g of Egg Noodles, 100g of lean beef, a reasonable helping of mixed veg and some peas, and I just stuck all of that in to a wok with a teaspoon of Thai spice and a tablespoon of Soy Sauce. It was absolutely delicious, and I'll probably just do the same again today as it was so tasty and quick to make. Literally 15 minutes from start to finish.
 
But, those egg noodles feel like a lot of carbs to be having. Perhaps it's just because I've previously done the Palumbo diet and that's hardly any carbs whatsoever. I bought a 6 pack of Blue Dragon Egg Noodles in 'nest' shaped single portions, as they work out perfect at 50g a serving and the diet specifies 60g, so it's just enough.
 
Only been doing it since Sunday, but so far I haven't felt hungry AT ALL during the day, if anything I'm eating more. The evenings (as I told you before) are just broken up by a protein shake around 8.00pm, so that's sorted that out nicely.
 
I guess what I'm saying is that you have the option to have one slice of wholegrain bread with your breakfast, 2 slices at lunch, then a couple of oatcakes or a cereal bar mid-afternoon, and then noodles, rice, or potatoes for dinner, so to me that seems like a fair bit of carbs to be consuming. Is that just balanced out by Friday to Sunday when there aren't too many consumed? Or is it balanced out by training in the evening? Because I haven't been doing much weight training at the same time yet, I'm just getting used to the new routine before doing so.
 
Thanks for any help, James, I appreciate it.

Hi there
I reality, it's not a lot of carbs; though in comparison to a ketogenic approach, it may seem that way.  Yes, the idea is to carb cycle and to balance things at the weekend.  The idea is to stave off hunger

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Well, today was the 8th day on the diet. Weighed myself for the first time, and I've put on 1lb.
 
Makes it all worthwhile, doesn't it?
 
Think I might just accept that I'm going to be a fatty forever.

Don't look at small fluctuations.  What sort of exercise are you doing?  Are you just doing this for weight loss or are you weight training too?
 

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Hi James,
 
I'm doing 45 minutes on the exercise bike every single morning before anything else, and this week I've started the basic weights from hom routine.
 
I was just a bit annoyed at not losing a single pound in 8 days having been really strict on the diet and burned 450cals on a bike every morning. That and the fact that I've pm'd a couple of people on these forums asking for some advice and guidance, people who have done it all themselves from a similar state I'm in, and those pm's have been ignored, which I find really disappointing.
 
Would like to be an inspiration to some people myself one day and there's no way I'd ignore a plea for help, but that's just me.

Hey, they may not be ignorring you; they may have:
1) Not been onto MT, or
2) Busy and have not got around to replying yet.  I know that I'm very busy sometimes and it may take me several working days to reply to people.  And I think several working days is perfectly acceptable: at least it used to be, but in the days of the internet people expect replies too soon IME!
 
Sounds like what you're doing is right.  Give it longer though - 8 days is not much and there are many variables.

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I know James, I was just being an arse, really.
 
I'm sticking to it and seeing what happens. I like the diet very much, it's more of an eating sensibly diet than a 'crash' diet, and that helps. I'm actually looking forward to meal times rather than wondering what I can have, and I do enjoy the cardio.
 
Having said all that, if I don't lose a pound or two this week someone's going to get it.

Ok, cool: keep us posted.

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THATS SO TRUE KITTY,
I WORK WITH A YOUNG BLOKE WHO'S GETTING MARRIED NXT YEAR SO HES DOING THE WW THING WITH HIS FIANCE HE SITS IN THE CANTEEN EATING BURGER/CHIPS WITH A YAZZO MILKSHAKE FOLLOWED BY BANANA SPONGE AND CUSTARD TO FINISH OFF AND DEFENDS HIS ACTIONS BY QUOTING "ITS WITHIN MY POINTS, SO ITS OK"
I JUST DONT GET IT

Hi James,
I previously lost 6/7 stone following a relatively poor diet and have since gained a couple of stone back, but in this time I have become far fitter and stronger.

I would really like to lose more fat but not lose any muscle, would this be possible? My current training regime is:
 
Monday - Weights + Circuit Training
Tuesday - Weights + Rugby Training
Wednesday - Weights + Circuit Training
Thursday - Weights + Rugby Training
Friday - Cardio. Could be going for a run, anywhere between 6 and 10 miles. 45 minutes on the cross trainer etc.
Saturday - Golf, probably around 5-6 miles walking with a bag on my back, takes 3.5 hours.
Sunday - Rest

Thanks,

Simon

Hi Simon
 
Yes, that's possible with good structure.  HiPaCC is designed for this too

James Collier
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How can i get hold of the ebook ?

Please email info@healthyaction.co.uk and we'll send details.

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Well, I've started to give this a read and I'm finding it very interesting. Two things which really strike me are:
 
1) What a stupid fvcked up world we have. No wonder we have so many health problems when every garage, shop, cafe has sweet sticky fatty evilness tantalizingly easy to grab.
 
2) Every kid should get the nutritional, anatomical, and physiological information contained here taught to them at school.
 
PG
 
 

Hi PG
 
Yes, fair enough comments; and these things have been creeping up on us over the years.  It wasn't this pronounced when I was a kid!

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Hi James,
 
I have just sent a e-mail requesting info on how I can get this book.
 
Sadly my training has lapsed greatly due to an injury and stupidly I have allowed the fat to go back on, as such I am not only overweight but also feel lethargic all the time. So now my injury has been repaired I am hoping that with this book I can get back into shape again by eating healthily and training correctly.

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Hi James,

I have just sent a e-mail requesting info on how I can get this book.

Sadly my training has lapsed greatly due to an injury and stupidly I have allowed the fat to go back on, as such I am not only overweight but also feel lethargic all the time. So now my injury has been repaired I am hoping that with this book I can get back into shape again by eating healthily and training correctly.

Do keep us posted as to how you get one
 

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Hi James, hashas the program changed in any way since you first published it?
 
As for the WW thing, my wife swears by it, and to be fair she has lost a lot of weight as a result, however even she can see the futility in the extra points one can get because she adds exercise to her weekly plan, whats the point of eating more just because you exercise, WTF?

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Hi James, hashas the program changed in any way since you first published it?

As for the WW thing, my wife swears by it, and to be fair she has lost a lot of weight as a result, however even she can see the futility in the extra points one can get because she adds exercise to her weekly plan, whats the point of eating more just because you exercise, WTF?

Hi there
 
No, it's the same principles.
 
Are you following the plan?

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Not following the diet at the moment, having decided to start looking after myself, in what I eat and exercise, I've been utilising some of the principles I learned when you used to do my meal plans for me, however that is principles only, not in a measured portion fashion, just a gebneral reduction of what I was eating. I also bought the HiPacc diet back then and thought I'd see how I get on with it, however I no longer have the pdf.

A map is not the territory it depicts; words are not the things they describe; symbols are not the things they represent.

You cannot not communicate.

Well, keep us posted on how you get on!

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Started reading the ebook this weekend - so glad i came across this forum!! I now realise how important it is for me to be informed about what my food options are. 
Ive been waisting my time up to now - well done, and thanks James!
 

Glad you're finding it useful already. Any queries, please let me know here.

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Thanks James!
My wife's a GP nurse and she runs the local diabetics clinic - she also thinks it's great, and she's said this will really help her convey info to her patients.
 
Ive started some cardio and im trying to get my head around whats best. ive tried cross-trainer and treadmill but yet to meet a gym bod to explain whats best. from what i read here i think im after 45 mins of cv work keeping heart rate around 60/65% peak HR. Also doing some weights but i need to investigate what i should be doing in this area. Need to work out what muscle group programe i do on each visit.
 
Diet ive dramatically changed: now using "PhD Diet Whey" twice a day and put a lot of thought into what and when i eat, as well as loads of water and better sleep: no more late nights!
 

Good stuff.  Yes, that sounds about right with heart rate, but it's also what feels right.  Weights, are you new to weight training?

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