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How do you fit shoulders into your routine?

Dedicated day just for Shoulders

23% (6)

With Chest/Tri's on a 3 day Push/Pull routine

23% (6)

With Legs on a 3 day Push/Pull routine

26% (7)

Part of a Full Body routine

0% (0)

Some other split/combination

26% (7)

Total Votes: 26

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How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 01 November 2009 18:55 ( #1 )

Everybody seems to have conflicting ideas about this, so what in your experience has proven to be the most effective time to train shoulders?

I voted for option 2, but that's just because it's the only way I've trained shoulders really for any length of time, not because I believe it's the best. In truth I have no idea what is the best, which is the purpose of this thread!

(It'll prob be a while before we get a significant number of votes in this poll but I'm really interested in this so please vote!)

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Owen Total Posts : 887 Reward points : 2012 Joined: 22/04/2008 Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 01 November 2009 19:09 ( #2 ) shoulders and tri's for me mate Bench - 110 x 1 Deadlift - 200 x 1 Squat - 140kg x 1 My Journal
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Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 01 November 2009 19:11 ( #3 )

I have tried two methods:

When I am busy and can not get to the gym as often

I do a three day split: Chest & Triceps, Back & Biceps and Legs & Shoulders.

When I have time to go 6 days a week then I do them all on individual days.

Chest,Biceps,Legs,Triceps,Back and Shoulders...

Personally I prefer the individual days option... that way your muscles are repaired by the time you train it again and you can train each one till complete exhaustion rather than being aware that you have another muscle group to train after.

donnyboy Total Posts : 1525 Reward points : 5083 Joined: 05/01/2004 Location: Newark England Status: online Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 01 November 2009 19:22 ( #4 ) Chest & Abs Back & Bi's Shoulders & Tri's Legs Seems to work best for me
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CitizenKane Total Posts : 2795 Reward points : 1040 Joined: 05/04/2009 Location: Dublin Status: online Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 01 November 2009 19:44 ( #5 ) Shoulders and Tri's eh? Interesting... "When life gives you lemons, just say f*** the lemons and bail"
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angelfan Total Posts : 1125 Reward points : 2111 Joined: 16/10/2007 Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 01 November 2009 21:23 ( #6 ) Legs and Shoulders are the way to go My body is like a Walking Chemical Factory.
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powerhouse_ad Total Posts : 589 Reward points : 3050 Joined: 21/05/2006 Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 13:13 ( #7 ) Mon - Lower Back/Traps/Hams/Calves Tues - Chest/Triceps Weds - Upper Back/Biceps Thurs - Quads/Deltoids Genetic Edge - Endure progress journal http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Genetic-Edge-Endure-m2973617.aspx
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Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 15:56 ( #8 )

i used to ahve them with chest + triceps but trying a completely new split of

Chest + arms
legs + back + shoulders

alternating each training day, seeing how it goes, just fancied trying something that ive not really seen before

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yungdest81 Total Posts : 1480 Reward points : 806 Joined: 21/05/2009 Location: Essex Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 16:02 ( #9 ) Back and shoulders. Weight: 174 lbs Height: 6 Ft Body Fat: Estimate between 11.7-15.7 % (Online tests) Journal
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MetalMoby Total Posts : 30 Reward points : 291 Joined: 07/10/2009 Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 16:12 ( #10 ) With Legs as part of a pull/push/legs routine.
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James M Total Posts : 649 Reward points : 6073 Joined: 10/04/2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 17:58 ( #11 ) Chest and tri's
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Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 18:50 ( #12 )

donnyboy

Chest & Abs
Back & Bi's
Shoulders & Tri's
Legs

Seems to work best for me

That seems a popular routine but is in fact not one I would recommend if you wanted to keep your shoulders healthy. Many suffer from shoulder injuries doing this type of routines and have you wondered why?

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KILO* Total Posts : 71 Reward points : 1961 Joined: 14/10/2007 Location: South London Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 19:02 ( #13 ) Mon-Chest Tues-Off Wed-Back Thurs-Shoulders Fri-Arms Sat-Legs Sun-Off Train quite high volume and so this allows less time in gym. Am also too tired to train any other bodypart afterwards.
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AWG Total Posts : 5284 Reward points : 2503 Joined: 20/07/2007 Location: Trent Poly, Nottingham Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 19:32 ( #14 ) Train Shoulders and Legs on Friday, shoulders only takes 15 mins usually 10 Week Test-C Cycle http://www.worldofselfimprovement.com/index.html
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All4n Total Posts : 4326 Reward points : 3424 Joined: 29/04/2006 Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 20:52 ( #15 ) Either 3 day split.. chest/tri back/bi legs/shoulders or 4 day split seperating legs/shoulders. Usually 3 day split due to not having the time tho. I used to train chest/shoulder/tri but found shoulders feeling too weak/fatigued after chest, so prefer them on legs day now.
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Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 02 November 2009 21:16 ( #16 )

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donnyboy

Chest & Abs
Back & Bi's
Shoulders & Tri's
Legs

Seems to work best for me

That seems a popular routine but is in fact not one I would recommend if you wanted to keep your shoulders healthy. Many suffer from shoulder injuries doing this type of routines and have you wondered why?

Many may do but I don't , therefore I never bothered to wonder why

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Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 03 November 2009 16:02 ( #19 )

With shoulders you'll get almost as many ways of doing it as replies! Why?

Lots of angles
Lots of cross over with other body parts
Lots of variety of volume and intensities work....

Here's and example of an intensification program I have used with a client before who had poor development but lots of rooms for recovery.

MON: Chest and Back, shoulders heavy
Push presses, military presses, snatch pulls all low volume & high weight
TUES: Legs: hip dominant, calves 1, core1
THURS: shoulders volume, arms
Higher rep combination of super and giant sets: front/side/rear raises and lighter presses etc
FRI: Legs: Qaud dom., calves 2, core 2

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Northern Rocker Total Posts : 7788 Reward points : 4568 Joined: 23/09/2004 Status: offline Read my TROG	Reply to message Message Options Re:How do you fit shoulders into your routine? - 03 November 2009 16:07 ( #20 ) Chest and bi's Legs Shoulders (and traps) back and tri's http://www.ugm.org.uk/
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