How much did you gain from your tren cycle?

The Truth


So would a test e with npp cycle be better than a test e with tren, and if so why? I want to lean out a lot more as already stocky but lack def.

Think it was said earlier, less sides similar effect to tren. If you wanna lean out no med will help, unless diet and CV are in place, without them you wont lean out, if they are in place it doesnt matter what Med you run.

When I say lean out I mean increase in muscle mass, more veiny, muscles more hardened and defined and at the same time lose body fat, thought tren would be good for this and never heard of npp before. Obversely my diet would be cool and hit cardio with low intensity cardio etc as well....  Was thinking 30% protein, 50% carbs, 20% fat and got just under 3 months before this cycle and hitting the cardio hard now with eph and caffiene so I'm at about 12% bf when I start, want to get really ripped. Dont care if only have medium sized muscles as if ripped you look bigger and will be better on my ****ed elbow lifting less weight.

MRENIGMA

The Truth


So would a test e with npp cycle be better than a test e with tren, and if so why? I want to lean out a lot more as already stocky but lack def.

Think it was said earlier, less sides similar effect to tren. If you wanna lean out no med will help, unless diet and CV are in place, without them you wont lean out, if they are in place it doesnt matter what Med you run.

 
Sorry I dont mean to be rude but I dont agree with what you just said, u say if cardio and diet are in place it dont matter what med u run if you want to get lean. What so if your diet and cardio are in place and you do tren there would be no difference??? I dont get this? I apologise in advance if I've misunderstood you.

i never said there would be no difference if you run tren as opposed to not, the wording says
"if they are in place it doesnt matter what Med you run."
Unless you get diet and CV in place, no med will get you "Ripped" 

For example you could run Sust and Deca and get leaner if your diet and cv were correct than opposed to taking tren and being slack on diet and cv, so your results do not depend on the Med, your condition is based on yoiur levels of BF as this is what differentiates from shreddded, ripped, lean, smooth, bulky, Fat, not whether you took Tren, NPP, Primo, Winstrol, Var, HGH or OXY, Dbol, sust, deca, all credit should go to the individual and not the med, if it were that easy, everyone would be shredded when you go to competition, yet most take tren, so people with there glutes out.......take more Tren?????? its utter madness, you cant get a bottle of abbs, end of! Not ranting at you just the general idea certain meds "Cut you up" 

Apparently the tren pushes the water to the muscles,hence how people look more fuller,defined,vascular,muscular,but apparently it is a illusion.and a lot of people take this for having leaned up.

no better or worse, people react different to different meds.
 
I will be using NPP on my next one

Nigalwayne


Apparently the tren pushes the water to the muscles,hence how people look more fuller,defined,vascular,muscular,but apparently it is a illusion.and a lot of people take this for having leaned up.

Apparently

 "Trenbolone is also a highly androgenic hormone, when compared with testosterone, which has an androgenic ratio of 100; trenbolones androgenic ratio is an astonishing 500. Highly androgenic steroids are appreciated for the effects they have on strength as well as changing the estrogen/androgen ratio, thus reducing water and under the skin. As if the report on trenbolone was not good enough, it gets better; Trenbolone is extraordinarily good as a fat loss agent. One reason for this is its powerful effect on nutrient partitioning (9). It is a little known fact is that androgen receptors are found in fat cells as well as muscle cells(10), androgens act directly on the A.R in fat cells to affect fat burning.(11) the stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose tissue (fat)(11). Since some steroids even increase the numbers of A.R in muscle and fat (11, 12) this fat loss effect would be amplified with the concurrent use of other compounds, such as testosterone."
 
No good to get ripped?? I dont think so (And yes I do agree training and diet need to be in place)



Nigalwayne - Don't think so buddy

Still not sure about the NPP thing

i never knew that paragraph you copy and pasted before i made my point that no meds help you get ripped.....woops, silly me LOL

Its just the info I already read weeks ago when I made decisions about what to do next. Its from a well known steroid site that begins with i