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How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK?

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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 09:17:10 (permalink)

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Nottingham is 1 of the worst places, especially with Colin Gunn and his 2 brothers. They ruled Nottingham and the Midlands organised crime, drugs mainly. They have been compared to the Krays, and are/were bigger. Colin was a proper Godfather, everyone respected or feared him. Since he and his brothers got sent down Notts, especially Bulwell and Basford have been fighting for the pieces left behind but that wont be for long as Dave Gunn is being released in another few years, he'll get the Gunn empire back together and alot of ppl will be going missing.


Don't the BA***Y brothers run alot in Nottingham aswell, hopefully you know who I mean as I'd rather not type there names.

In regards to laundering the profits of illegal activity, I know of a snooker hall, a car rental business, 2 car washes, a take away, and a double glazing company that have been set up just to launder money.


Nah bud they are into the door scene now, they own a large chunk of Luminar leisure which owns the Chicago Rock, Liquid nightclubs and a few other little side lines.

One of the brothers has taken a back seat now I think he's sold his shares in Luminar making him a tidy profit.



thats right, the Bailey brothers are all legit now, they own the doors in nottingham and most of Leicester. I think Chris Bailey is the only brother left now, Charles had a heart attack some years ago and died. They own alot of the big night clubs in notts too. Someone actually glassed Chris's only son, Aaron afew months ago in a night club owned by the Baileys, he nearly lost an eye. Spent 6hrs in the operating room. Since then the guy who glassed him is in police protection, but hes been spent down so hes fcuked when hes inside.

The Gunns ran the illegal side of nottingham, mainly drugs. Crime was actually down before Colin and his brother Dave got sent down. Lewis Gunn is still out but i think they'll have to wait till Dave Gunn gets released before things get sorted. Colin Gunn is never going to see day light again. Pitty, cus ive heard his worth 18million. He still has alot of power tho, especially in Bulwell and Bestwood.

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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 09:23:17 (permalink)
theres quite a few in Glasgow and Edinburgh

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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 11:51:48 (permalink)
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The Gunns ran the illegal side of nottingham, mainly drugs. Crime was actually down before Colin and his brother Dave got sent down. Lewis Gunn is still out but i think they'll have to wait till Dave Gunn gets released before things get sorted. Colin Gunn is never going to see day light again. Pitty, cus ive heard his worth 18million. He still has alot of power tho, especially in Bulwell and Bestwood.


Pity?

I just did some research and here's the quote:

"Now we can reveal for the first time that this execution was revenge for an attack on Gunn's nephew, a teenager called Jamie Gunn. He was in a car which was shot at by Joan Stirland's son. Jamie Gunn's friend Marvyn Bradshaw was killed. Jamie Gunn became very ill but by then, the gunman was in jail. So Colin Gunn went after his mother and stepfather instead."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/content/articles/2007/08/02/colin_gunn_jeremy_ball_report_feature.shtml

So he killed someone's parents because of what the son did.

That's wrong, and it's good he got caught for it.
post edited by ThaiFighter - 2007/11/05 11:52:27

    
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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 12:03:57 (permalink)

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ORIGINAL: Clubber Lang
The Gunns ran the illegal side of nottingham, mainly drugs. Crime was actually down before Colin and his brother Dave got sent down. Lewis Gunn is still out but i think they'll have to wait till Dave Gunn gets released before things get sorted. Colin Gunn is never going to see day light again. Pitty, cus ive heard his worth 18million. He still has alot of power tho, especially in Bulwell and Bestwood.


Pity?

I just did some research and here's the quote:

"Now we can reveal for the first time that this execution was revenge for an attack on Gunn's nephew, a teenager called Jamie Gunn. He was in a car which was shot at by Joan Stirland's son. Jamie Gunn's friend Marvyn Bradshaw was killed. Jamie Gunn became very ill but by then, the gunman was in jail. So Colin Gunn went after his mother and stepfather instead."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/content/articles/2007/08/02/colin_gunn_jeremy_ball_report_feature.shtml

So he killed someone's parents because of what the son did.

That's wrong, and it's good he got caught for it.


you must have seen it on the news , also under suspsion of organising the robbery of the notts jewllers in which the owner (marion bates?) was killed and the disappearance of the gun man.

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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 12:04:44 (permalink)
Manchester is very organised and has been for years. Although there are the big names you hear of running drugs/doors/guns/blags etc. there is a proper hierarchy and the real bad boys really do move in silince. I remember when I worked for the Salford 'firm' doing the doors years ago, some of the guys who I thought and were well known as the top dogs talked about being 'made' a 'director' one day by the real guys in charge. These people were well respected people in positions of power who don't get their hands dirty themselves.
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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 12:06:18 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Sherlock

Manchester is very organised and has been for years. Although there are the big names you hear of running drugs/doors/guns/blags etc. there is a proper hierarchy and the real bad boys really do move in silince. I remember when I worked for the Salford 'firm' doing the doors years ago, some of the guys who I thought and were well known as the top dogs talked about being 'made' a 'director' one day by the real guys in charge. These people were well respected people in positions of power who don't get their hands dirty themselves.

how did they start out? how come no one's heard of them ever?

    
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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 12:10:34 (permalink)

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So he killed someone's parents because of what the son did.

That's wrong, and it's good he got caught for it.


Agreed, it's truly sick.


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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 12:18:49 (permalink)

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The Gunns ran the illegal side of nottingham, mainly drugs. Crime was actually down before Colin and his brother Dave got sent down. Lewis Gunn is still out but i think they'll have to wait till Dave Gunn gets released before things get sorted. Colin Gunn is never going to see day light again. Pitty, cus ive heard his worth 18million. He still has alot of power tho, especially in Bulwell and Bestwood.


Pity?

I just did some research and here's the quote:

"Now we can reveal for the first time that this execution was revenge for an attack on Gunn's nephew, a teenager called Jamie Gunn. He was in a car which was shot at by Joan Stirland's son. Jamie Gunn's friend Marvyn Bradshaw was killed. Jamie Gunn became very ill but by then, the gunman was in jail. So Colin Gunn went after his mother and stepfather instead."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/content/articles/2007/08/02/colin_gunn_jeremy_ball_report_feature.shtml

So he killed someone's parents because of what the son did.

That's wrong, and it's good he got caught for it.


It was Jamie Gunn that was the target. The gunman admitted that in court and also bragged about blowing the hole in Marvyns head.
The murder of the gunmans parents was terrible yes, but it sent a message out to other criminals that no1 is untouchable, especially when the Gunnies are running things.

As for the armed robbery in Arnold that cost the life of Marion Bates, that would have be approved by the Gunnies, their turf, so they get a cut. When it went wrong and the lady was killed the gunman who nobody can find was dead before the night was out, you'll never find his body. Only reason they're still looking for it is to try and but another murder wrap on Colin, make sure he never gets released.

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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 19:26:24 (permalink)
The Irish mafia are big as well. I don't know much about their activities in the UK but they are big in USA. They also often work with the Italian mafia. There's some Irish mafia families in Australia too.
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RE: How much proper organsied criminals are there in the UK? 2007/11/05 20:44:00 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: acockayne

Do you mean English organised crime? For example the Krays? I imagine quite a bit in East London.

However, IMO there will be quite a lot of foreign gangs in the UK. I remember hearing that Chinese gangs practically run the whole of Soho. Now with an influx of Eastern Europeans, I imagine that among all the decent folks who arrive there will be some bad ones too.

In Italy its very organised. Mafia refers to organised crime in Sicily. In Naples its called the Camora, in Calabria Ndrangheta. It has quite a respectable face too in that they look like business men. A lot of them own construction companies and its quite big business for them to win contracts from the government, take the £ and then never finish (or start) the work.


Yep the Camorra are based in Napoli and are different from the Sicilian Mafia - Cosa Nostra (which as a point of interest means 'our thing')


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