Human Growth Hormone

Split it into 2 doses mate, one in the morning and afternoon. Anytime really.
Once you've done your morning shot just put it back in the fridge until your afternoon shot.

Oh yeah I think your gonna need more gh than that to get results bud

Hi I am very new to body building and also new to this excellant forum, and have started at the ripe old age of 40 years old, after 2 many years of abusing my body with junk foods and drink etc, i have been on a healthy diet for almost a year now and shedded nearly 8 stone in body weight and have started to tone up nicely working out 5 days a week, my weight loss has now come to a stand still no matter how hard i seem to work and my calorie intake is very low using a diet i was given from my dietitian in conjunction with my training program, i have just started taking Ansomone GH at 4 iu's per day as this was recommended to me by a friend for weight loss, what i would really like to know is will GH help me to lose that extra 20lbs i need to lose or is there a better and more effective weight loss enhancer without the price of the Ansome GH i could use, i would be very grateful for any advice and once again Fantastic Forum!
Thanks
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Welcome to MT

ORIGINAL: tagg
i have just started taking Ansomone GH at 4 iu's per day as this was recommended to me by a friend for weight loss, what i would really like to know is will GH help me to lose that extra 20lbs i need to lose

No. Forget about GH for fat loss. Yes, it happens, but the effects are generally slight and on a cost/fat loss ratio, GH is horrendous. Firstly, visit the diet forum to ensure that your diet is spot on. Please do this as I've seen plenty of "expert" derived diets and they are truly awful. Not saying this is the case here, but worth a second opinion.

Then consider using an Ephedrine based product. Details can be found here:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_155953/tm.htm

Thanks for that party boy much appreciated advice

A good ECA stack always works with a good diet and plenty of cardio.
I started Ansomone last Monday at 4iu ed, haven't noticed anything as of yet though

I obtained some 10 i.u. jintropin recently. When I reconstituted I wanted to do a dose and when I pulled out enough to reach the 4 mark on a slin syringe it seemd like it had only taken out about 10% og the vial. Should I disregard the marks on the side of the syringe and just shoot half of the vial or is there some formula to use to know how many units you are using?

ORIGINAL: minor athlete

Should I disregard the marks on the side of the syringe and just shoot half of the vial

Yes, disregard. Using half is the easiest way with Jin and you'll get 5IU per shot. Dilutent is 1ml with Jin so you need to shoot 0.5ml for 5IU.

First time poster. Great site and lots of good info.

I have been working out since 16 and am now 26. I have been in the military as well, so I am no stranger to proper training. My best at 5'9" was a lean (~5%) at 175. Recently, work and school have taken their toll on my time for the gym. I put on an additional 25lbs of fat. My trainer suggests HGH with my ECA to get some better gains and fatloss while increasing cardio a bit. I have been debating this for several weeks now, including the cost factor. My gains are not nearly as they were in my early 20's, but I am not convinced I have leveled off yet.
I read through this thread and haven't heard a whole lot that makes hgh seem worth the expense. As partyboy put it as the "cherry" on the cake. I am not looking for miracles, just to get back what I had and a bit more. Side effects are always a concern, so a roid supplement seems more risky, right?? I am not looking into a long-term alternative, just a quick pick me up. Should I be considering a different approach, for a 2-3 month time frame?

Suggestions please....

Welcome. HGH is not appropriate for you.

You need to first establish what is your immediate goal: Muscular gain, or Fat loss, and tailor your diet, cardio, and perhaps drug use toward that particular goal.

ORIGINAL: PartyBoy

Welcome. HGH is not appropriate for you.

You need to first establish what is your immediate goal: Muscular gain, or Fat loss, and tailor your diet, cardio, and perhaps drug use toward that particular goal.

My most immediate goal is fat loss. I am taking an ECA stack and have up'd my cardio to 30 min. session after weights and 30 minutes before bedtime. I am lifting moderate weight with more reps and following a super-set routine to keep my heart rate up. (..and not spend forever in the gym). I don't burn fat as well as I used to. My diet is decent but not strict, still no fast food though.
I know the diet, cardio, and rest are the biggest peices to the puzzle. After I trim down I will be looking for some better gains in size/strength. I just can't stand not having abs for beach time weather.

I assume my trainer's recommendation for hgh is for its fat loss properties, while slightly increasing some lean muscle. I realize it is hard to do both significantly at the same time.

So PB, is the diet, ECA stack and cardio my best option now? Wait on the hgh until some size gains come into the picture?

Thanks!

Yes, HGH is a long way down the road.

MIght be an idea to get your diet looked over in the diet forum.

Also, ignore any advice regarding higher reps and fat loss, its a load of bollox. Go hard and heavy - the benefits are twofold:

1) Muscular overload will stimulate muscular growth (or at least offset muscular atrophy). The more muscle you have, the greater amount of calories you will burn at rest.
2) Its probable that you will burn more calories during a hard, heavy session than a higher rep moderate one. Heavy training requires a tremendous amount of energy (calories). Therefore, leave the light/moderate higher reps to the January gym newbies who will believe anything that is said to them.

I guess I will stick to diet, ECA, and cardio for now while I transition back to heavier wieghts. I hope I can see the results I need to in 8 weeks or less.
I will update in a few weeks on progress and be back in a few months for some more beneficial supplements for muscle gains.

Current weight 205 lbs, body fat 20%.(pinch test, so may not be completely accurate)

Hopefully this info may be useful to others in my situation and save some money.

Thanks PB for the advice! My wallet thanks you too!

Hello I introduce myself I am rafa of Spain, it is this forum in top shape.

I want to know if anyone has used GETROPIN......good? The serious dose the same one 4 up-to-date u.i.,
THANKS.

Partyboy - me and the wife are still using HGH after 6 months on (had 1 month off over xmas) and we have found quite good fat loss over that time with improved skin, sleep and general well being, my wife was going to take Insulin on top to help her Femur mend from an open fracture (2 years now!) but we decided the risk was not worth it, flipside of this however is that she has just had to have a bone graft (sp) and is on some big pain killers as you can imagine (they are quite trippy) can you tell me if it is ok for her to carry ontaking her HGH whilst on these? they are :oxycodone Chloride (pain killers) & Metoclopramide (for the sickness caused by the pain killers)

Some pointers on this would be really good for her at the moment as she is getting really down about having to let all her hard work go.

Big Thanks!

Nick

On a winter bulking cycle is it worth considering running HGH for 4 months (maybe 6) @ 4iu a day (2iu morning around breakfast, 2iu evening) combined with 400mg primo PW, 500mg tren eth and 500mg test et (or maybe sust)?

Cycle would look like:-

Weeks 1-12 500mg Test E/or Sust (front loading with 1000mg)
Weeks 1-10 500mg Tren E (front loading with 1000mg)
Weeks 1-15 400mg Primo (front loading with 800mg)
Weeks 1-16 4IU HGH ED (weekends off)

Using long esters as my current tren ace/test cycle is pissing me off with all the injections

Oh t3 would be used to help top up the thyroid as needed

Oh t3 would be used to help top up the thyroid as needed

Ok friendly thanks

was up my name is travis been on 5iu's day wk end off for 2 month's now starting 2 c good shape coming thrugh im coming off in a wk but bk on in 3 wks should i now start doing more wen i get new stack the stuff iv been taking is jinotropin

is there such thing as igf 1 spray as my mate has been taking for it 2 months and he said he has cut up on it. would it be worth trying
cheers

ORIGINAL: wackojacko

is there such thing as igf 1 spray as my mate has been taking for it 2 months and he said he has cut up on it. would it be worth trying
cheers

No. Would be purely a marketing scam.