Human Growth Hormone

ther will be several people here interested in your claims jd,

ill let them carry on, as i dont know much more.

ORIGINAL: jef1

ther will be several people here interested in your claims jd,

ill let them carry on, as i dont know much more.

Yes probably...

But, if they really know their stuff, see if they can spot the mistake with Anhui....Obviously they haven't otherwise they wouldn't be getting irrate....

what mistake are you talking about mate?

are you also trying to say that all the generic gh floating about is not 191aa? if so u are mistaken. my source for generic gh is an actual legitimate company in china mwho are licensed to make other recombinant drugs like epo and so have the technology already to make gh. they dont license their gh because it costs too much money to get sfda approval to sell. and since they have the money and technology to make gh they will for the black market, i can guarantee u my generic gh is 191aa and so is ansomone

no one makes 192 gh anymore its cheep enough to make the proper stuff.

ORIGINAL: susthead

no one makes 192 gh anymore its cheep enough to make the proper stuff.

Familar with GH production are you? It doesn't seem so....

Cost isn't the factor with production although it is costly) it's who has the licensed patent for the technology for the correct procedure to manufacture..This being as there are only two ways to do this for 191aa sequence..

With Ansomone by their own admition ( and not the only ones who claim) , they produce rHGH ( Somatropin) by Inclusion Body Technology ( e coli)...

Problem is, you can't get 191aa from that process...

There lies the mistake....

ORIGINAL: warmachine

are you also trying to say that all the generic gh floating about is not 191aa? if so u are mistaken. my source for generic gh is an actual legitimate company in china mwho are licensed to make other recombinant drugs like epo and so have the technology already to make gh. they dont license their gh because it costs too much money to get sfda approval to sell. and since they have the money and technology to make gh they will for the black market, i can guarantee u my generic gh is 191aa and so is ansomone

Your'e not making sense fella...If by generic your'e refering to without branding, yes they are some questions about their origin and reliability...

The Chinese are very good at promising one thing and delivering another.. If you think that when these labs pop up theres men sitting around in white coats in pristine labs your'e having a laugh.. When the fact is that Ansomone and a few of the others are just buying powder off one source and knocking it up...Obviously i can't speak for other generic GH as the topic is about Ansomone..

So to answer your question, NO Ansomone( Somatrem) is not true 191 aa sequence...And yes it does make a difference...

ORIGINAL: jonnydenver

If you think that when these labs pop up theres men sitting around in white coats in pristine labs your'e having a laugh..

Don't forget about them holding up and inspecting a vial of brightly coloured liquid

ORIGINAL: PartyBoy

ORIGINAL: jonnydenver

If you think that when these labs pop up theres men sitting around in white coats in pristine labs your'e having a laugh..

Don't forget about them holding up and inspecting a vial of brightly coloured liquid

as far as i know ansomone is 192 aa chain, i was told that by someone in china when i was in the market for what i shall describe as a large amount, but stricly for 'personal' use lol

as johhnydenver points out they have mentioned the process by which their hgh is made, and that method does not produce 191 aa chain hgh, and i have seen people use it produce welts at injection sites, where they previously have not with other makes

and i dont see why it should be up to people to disprove claims, imo it should be up to people making the claims to prove them, so they should pay for someone to conduct an independant test to see

that said 192 aa chain gh will produce the same results in most people anyway

ORIGINAL: dazc

as far as i know ansomone is 192 aa chain, i was told that by someone in china when i was in the market for what i shall describe as a large amount, but stricly for 'personal' use lol

as johhnydenver points out they have mentioned the process by which their hgh is made, and that method does not produce 191 aa chain hgh, and i have seen people use it produce welts at injection sites, where they previously have not with other makes

and i dont see why it should be up to people to disprove claims, imo it should be up to people making the claims to prove them, so they should pay for someone to conduct an independant test to see

that said 192 aa chain gh will produce the same results in most people anyway

Good dazc you're on the right track, but 192aa is a waste of your hard earned money...

Body needs 191aa in replication to your own which is 191aa...

Informative Post, been lookling for ages for some Raw Facts like that.
i have just obtained some (genlei)Jintropin 100iu looks the real deal.
have have some Questions about my course/Stack but will post seperately.
Thanks PartyBoy Yk

ok but you cant say that all gh from china that is not gensci is 192aa. i also know that a couple of companies have the protein secretion technology to make 191aa and just dont license the product because that is too costly and sell it on the black market as the legit market for gh is very small

if they could afford the machinery to produce growth by secretion technology they could afford a licence to do so. Fact is that most of the producers of gh in china get their powder from the same manufacturer, and then brand it up, or not as the case my be. If you think all the different people selling gh could afford the machinery to produce their own well, i dont agree, put it that way

dazci know what u are saying and i dont mean all companies that sell gh have the machinery but the ones that are licensed to make and sell other recombinant products like epo obviously have the machinery already to make the stuff and maybe two companies in china have this. the one i deal with are licensed to make epo and because the legit market for gh is small and not worth alot of money, they dont see it as good business to spend so much money on licensing the product

ORIGINAL: warmachine

dazci know what u are saying and i dont mean all companies that sell gh have the machinery but the ones that are licensed to make and sell other recombinant products like epo obviously have the machinery already to make the stuff and maybe two companies in china have this. the one i deal with are licensed to make epo and because the legit market for gh is small and not worth alot of money, they dont see it as good business to spend so much money on licensing the product

Sure, i do agree with you...As for most of the generic GH around i cant speak for them, it was just about Ansomone...There are a couple of other firms but you don't hear much of them..

is amsomone produced and sold as a legit gh for medical purpose?

its boxed and labelled as 191- i presume that the product is not subject to cetain legislation that would enforce this?

ORIGINAL: jef1

is amsomone produced and sold as a legit gh for medical purpose?

its boxed and labelled as 191- i presume that the product is not subject to cetain legislation that would enforce this?

The only legit Gh for medical use is Huamtrope, Genotropin, Norditropin and Saizen..Children, short stature and HRT in adults..

Ansomone does not meet GMP requirements..

191 is stable at room temp and can be shipped so..192 needs to be kept at 2-8c, so if not by the time you get it its gona be bashed to bits..

Your body needs 191, otherwise it will reconise the extra aa and your imune system will kick in to destroy it..

Ansomone is still good quality but i mean for the small variation in price one could go with a more legit...

Euro Hormones have just brought out a Somatrpoin which is very good 191aa....

Ive had most things tested aswell...

i thought it was only a small % of people that develop antibody resistance?

ORIGINAL: jef1

i thought it was only a small % of people that develop antibody resistance?

Yeah its true, everyone is different to that degree..But what it will do is stop the GH from functioning properly and not getting the best out of it..

I think with Ansomone theres about a 40% chance of anti-bodies forming..Its just not as stable..In the short term the cheap stuff works but in the bigger picture it wont in the end....

In the US the FDA are banning 192aa...