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John Cena on steroid use

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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 15:59:31 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou

Exactly Knoxville. A point I raised earlier.

Swift - you were telling us how he is natural, without any real experience in any part of the game - 2 years is nothing.


that's incorrect mate

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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 16:03:44 (permalink)

Papa lazarou:

my first statement regarding cena:

ORIGINAL: swift

tbh i think he probably has used AAS. he even says that its an awkward subject to answer due to the stigma attached to it


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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 17:12:53 (permalink)
Ok my 2 cents worth:

Firstly it's not necessarily correct to say that the longer someone has been trainign the more they know.

I know guys who've trained for 6 months and researched like crazy to get optimum results who know more than guys who've been training for 10 years and still make 'rookie mistakes'


Secondly No one is definitively saying that cena is natural. Let's face it, he probably isn't, but there are posts within this thread that are writing off many natural guys as liars and fakes and I thik that's unfair. Truth is you don't know for sure


Let me ask you. What makes you SO certain?
Maybe you (I'm directing this to anyone) peaked at 14stone (or whatever) but that doesn't necessarily mean that the next guy will/did.

DO you get my menaing.

All i'm seeing fromt he cynics is a lot of posts saying "No. derfinitely not possible He's a liar and the naturals have no hope of getting close." and then attacking anyone who dares to disagree.



My original question - "Is it feasible?"
A lto of people have said no

all I'm asking is, without diving into an attack or character assassination....

"why not?"
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 17:22:47 (permalink)
My impression from that interview seemed as tho to give indication he had used, I felt it pointed to him giving indication he had, just short of full admittance to using aas.


Regarding naturals with size, John Hansen, whos built his career on being natural, looks pretty big to me, or is it that he must be some sort of freak also?!! Or someone think hes not natural?


http://www.naturalolympia.com/frameset_profile.html

post edited by JED487 - 2008/02/27 17:25:35
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 17:23:42 (permalink)
It seems to me that it is being suggested on this thread that there is nobody on earth that could be around 18 stone at around 10% BF without resorting to PED's.

This is very unlikely.
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 17:32:20 (permalink)
To answer you're question Mak,people can only make an educated guess.Personally,after frequenting various gyms for the past 20 or so years I've never come across a character who was anything like his size and condition who wasn't on gear.(I've nothing against gear,I'm due to start my first cycle myself).I find it hard to believe he's all natural,especially after preds pics of him onstage.Who can say for 100% sure though?Nobody.
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 17:37:55 (permalink)
This thread has taken a funny turn, as threads on steroids in the General forum tend to!

It seems like steroid users are not allowed to have an opinion because they're just insecure about what can be achieved naturally, and naturals are not allowed to have an opinion because they have no experience. So, nobody is allowed an opinion?

Heh. Here's my opinion again, anyway

Mr Cena in his bodybuilding days? I personally doubt that anyone on earth can achieve that without drug use

Mr Cena is his wrestling days? This physique is achievable by a very small minority of genetically gifted and hard working individuals, without drug use

IME/IMO/JMO/JME/etc


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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 17:38:31 (permalink)
In other words Drab is sitting on the fence again
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 18:29:58 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: JED487

My impression from that interview seemed as tho to give indication he had used, I felt it pointed to him giving indication he had, just short of full admittance to using aas.


Regarding naturals with size, John Hansen, whos built his career on being natural, looks pretty big to me, or is it that he must be some sort of freak also?!! Or someone think hes not natural?


http://www.naturalolympia.com/frameset_profile.html



He says he is natural but so do top IFBB pros. He's more than likley not natural as he's competed in the NPC and AAU. Through the NPC you can qualify for the pro circuit/IFBB which doesn't exactly scream strict natural show does it?

I don't think there is a chance in hell he's never touched gear and i think he's admitted to using in the past.
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 19:00:44 (permalink)

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Looking at the size of his neck and traps i'd say he's a aas user.


Means nothing IMO

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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/27 22:51:35 (permalink)
I don't think there is a chance in hell he's never touched gear and i think he's admitted to using in the past.


Lots of assumptions going on there fella
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/28 00:44:57 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: huskyboy

I don't think there is a chance in hell he's never touched gear and i think he's admitted to using in the past.


Lots of assumptions going on there fella


I've found the quote where he admits taking steroids from a thread he made at bodybuilding.com, http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2685401
ORIGINAL: John Hansen

When I began competing in the open division competitions like the NPC Illinois State Championships and NPC Mid-America, I started using the drugs 12 weeks before the contest to hold onto my muscle mass and keep my strength up and get that finished look that Arnold talked about.

So there we go, with no assumptions he's not natural.
post edited by Ridley Rockets - 2008/02/28 00:45:37
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/28 03:29:16 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Bullmastiff


ORIGINAL: TREBOR

Looking at the size of his neck and traps i'd say he's a aas user.


Means nothing IMO


The neck and traps contain more steroid receptors than any other bodyparts and they grow very easily on cycle,looking at his pics his neck looks to be 20 inches easily and hes fairly lean,compare that to pics of natural bodybuilders and you will notice there necks tend to be quite skinny when lean.
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/28 10:24:03 (permalink)
edit: post sounded gay
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/28 15:23:02 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: OJay

edit: post sounded gay

I wouldn't worry about sounding gay mate, it will go with your nicely shaven pubes on your avatar.
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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/28 15:24:00 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Ridley Rockets


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edit: post sounded gay

I wouldn't worry about sounding gay mate, it will go with your nicely shaven pubes on your avatar.

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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/28 15:24:44 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Ridley Rockets


ORIGINAL: OJay

edit: post sounded gay

I wouldn't worry about sounding gay mate, it will go with your nicely shaven pubes on your avatar.


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RE: John Cena on steroid use 2008/02/28 15:52:25 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: TREBOR

The neck and traps contain more steroid receptors than any other bodyparts and they grow very easily on cycle,looking at his pics his neck looks to be 20 inches easily and hes fairly lean,compare that to pics of natural bodybuilders and you will notice there necks tend to be quite skinny when lean.


the man is right. it is the immediate area which grows with indirect training when using AAS.
first obvious sign.
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