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2008/12/20 00:22:25 (permalink)

MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training?

This could get quite messy... I'm asking strictly from a knowledge point of view as I'm curious. I've never done cocaine but have done MDMA a few times. I take my training extremely seriously and don't drink much at all (haven't touched a drop for over a month which is hard as a student).

Anyway, does anyone know the real implications of these drugs individually on training? The health risks aren't important (we all know that steroids aren't exactly healthy, yet they can improve your training). If I took MDMA once a month, and drank a sensible amount of water am I doing more damage to my training than if I were to get drunk? I personally don't get hungover really, but alcohol messes up my eating whereas MDMA doesn't really change my eating habits. How about if I did a line of cocaine, would it cause some sort of reaction which would be detrimental to muscle growth in some way? Does anyone know the science behind this stuff?
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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/20 00:33:09 (permalink)
    my roomate does the occasional line and it doesnt seem to affect his training, but I wouldnt be sure of what that will do to you over the long run. im just bumping you because I dont know the scientific implications but the fact that you are into these things raises some red flags to me anyways
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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/20 10:06:26 (permalink)
    alcohol IMO
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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/20 10:10:20 (permalink)
    Don't even ask.

    If it doesn't aid your training - don't do it.

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/20 12:12:05 (permalink)
    IME none of them will really effect your training if only done infrequently ie  once or twice a month.I'd personally avoid the MDMA / ecstacy as it gave me depression when I was younger.
     I wouln't recommend doing any of them but lots of people who train do so it would be silly to pretend otherwise.

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/20 14:03:50 (permalink)
    As above mate, all three will hurt your training goals, but one day out of the month isn't going to make any appreciable difference even if you don't eat anything all day

    If you start using any of those drugs regularly then you will see a significant negative impact on your training, I speak from experience on that and I've never known anyone who was immune to the negative effects....


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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/21 20:55:08 (permalink)
    once a month, wont make any diff really

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/21 22:08:54 (permalink)
    I've heard about having monster sessions on MDMA, used as a pre workout stim, so it could, in a weird way, aid training. It certainly does not aid general health.
    I'm going to go with alcohol on this one, makes you feel ill for up to a couple of days, which you don't really get with the other two.

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/21 23:09:49 (permalink)
    MDMA will hinder your goals more than the other two IMO.

    Knackers your appetite
    Makes you lose water
    Depression
    Makes you question priorities in life

    Personally I wouldn't touch it. I know people who have taken MDMA and suddenly other 'buzzes' from life, such as training, don't seem as good. Stay clear bud IMO.
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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/23 11:28:32 (permalink)
    personally; I'd keep opiates out of my blood....before you know it, you'd be doing more & ......................... you know the story..
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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/23 11:57:38 (permalink)
    since when is mdma opiates??

    once in a blue moon with any of these things isnt going to make much difference, and i doubt any of them have an absolute direct effect on protein synthesis but watch out that "every now and again" doesnt turn into every other weekend and so on...

    the mental sides from mdma and charlie can get evil and thats speaking from experience

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/23 13:58:30 (permalink)
    personally mdma i think is the worst one because it can set you back a month or so, i lose strength and the will to work out on it.

    cocaine is not too bad when it comes to training and goals

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/23 13:58:50 (permalink)
    weed is the best, especially if you are in bulking period,youre stoned for 2-3 hours and then youre back to reality .......gooood before you have sex also .......aas+weed=sex,sex,sex

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/23 16:58:02 (permalink)
    alcohol is there werst imo, losts of water lass from dehydration, other two may afftect your appetite the next day, but so will drink if your hungova or ill.
    if i had to pick one id pick mdma to take. but not on aas that would be bad
    post edited by stone14 - 2008/12/23 16:59:06

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/24 16:57:55 (permalink)
    Dose...?

    This with frequency is a big issue.

    Alcohol and cocaine are acutely dangerous mixed with exertion for the period after you have taken them, this will become more of a potential problem as you get older.

    MDMA whilst not associated with the same types of problems has it's own set. The problem always is that for much of the time it is 'safe', but you don't know there's a problem until it presents. I'm not talking about impurities etc more the MDMA itself (and physical health).

    Whilst it is importna to live life to the fullest I'm not going to say one is the smart choice that said a glass of whine or A beer isn;t going to mess very much up is it?

    It all comes back to dose and frequency.

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/24 20:08:19 (permalink)
    im an mdma user, and i use it once a month and thats it. It has NO impacts negatively on my training, before i go out i take two high strength multi vits and some 5-htp, when i get in i take some more 5-htp then in the morn its a weight gainer plus multi vits and ill continue taking 5-htp throughout the week.

    If your going to do any drug or substance at least have the knowledge on how to leesen or eradicate the negative sides that they can produce.

    BUT if you do these regulary then mental probs would be top of the list, and training will go out the window. Also ask yourself am i going to be mr olympia?? probably not so why deny yourself a bit of naughtiness once in a while?

    Dont take life too seriously but maintain a balnce in everything and you will be ok
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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/24 23:43:14 (permalink)
    all of those mess with my appetite, therefore they are as bad as each other for me

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/25 00:00:37 (permalink)
    id say alcohol would be worst...

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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/25 15:14:01 (permalink)
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    Don't even ask.

    If it doesn't aid your training - don't do it.


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    Re:MDMA vs Alcohol vs Cocaine - Which is worse when training? 2008/12/25 16:51:19 (permalink)
    MDMA is best, it will raise your heartbeat making you burn more kcals, you will dance your tits off all night whiich is cardio and you will loose your apetite so you wont gain any weight. Although if you do some coke you might get in a wrestle with the police after the club and thats good cardio. 

    Drink enough and you will throw it all back up which neutralises its negative effects. Particuarly handy if you've eaten a kebab on the way home. 

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