MT Shape-Up Challenge in the New Year!! Now prizes for 2nd and 3rd!!

Brilliant timing - was planning a cut in the new year.

Mrs. DC77 is due in May with baby no. 2 so this is my big chance to get in shape before the sleepless nights and dirty nappies!

I'm up for this.

This time I hope I dont go on holiday towards the end.

Too early for me - I'll be a terrible fat blob in January without hope of rippedness by march

Good luck to everyone getting on it

Maybe , wanted to start this month....not sure if i can hold off until then as i want to get started

Not sure what I'll be aiming for around that time but I'm in !

Yep, will be in. Probably still trying to bulk a little before joining in with Welshy's pre-comp cut

Aye im in... ill give it a ding... though cut or bulk?? 14months cutting, 3 months bulking then another 6 months cutting for the summer OR
14 months cutting and then 6 months bulking then 3 months to get down for the summer... not sure if thats enough time!

I contemplated it.  Then I saw a few of the names getting involved and thought better of it.

Walnaldinho


I contemplated it.  Then I saw a few of the names getting involved and thought better of it.

why? the competition is all in good spirits, and everyone else entering and seeing there progress acts as motivation for others...least it does for me.

and hey, I came last in the first 2 shape-ups.....2nd in the last one.

you never know how you'll do till you try

Walnaldinho


I contemplated it.  Then I saw a few of the names getting involved and thought better of it.

Like who?

If its putting people off, perhaps groups should be split up?

Walnaldinho


I contemplated it.  Then I saw a few of the names getting involved and thought better of it.

As AWG says, it is about the motivation to keep to your diet and training for 12 weeks as much as winning the prize.  I think the standard has increased each time and this is a positive thing!

Papa Lazarou


If its putting people off, perhaps groups should be split up?

That could get a bit complicated, what groups did you have in mind?

Assisted and non Assisted.  I guess Assisted tend (not a hard and fast rule) to be more experienced and I guess that may be what puts people off.  

Being Assisted also generally means you can cut harder with less muscle being lost as well and bulk less cleanly and put less fat on.


Ergo, people are seeing and uneven playing field and being put off.  

Pah, I'll do a natural 12 week cut whilst adding 12-14lbs Papa, ney worry

I understand your point in that some members may think that people who are assisted may have a better end result.  Trying to keep the emphasis on the best progress, rather than just who has the best physique.

Monitoring who is assisted and the parameters of with what, is a minefield.  Do prohormones and fat burners count the same as other drugs, for example? There are more sub-categories I could list, also I'm happy to take everybody's word for it but some may not. Would then male and female members be in different groups?(although currently there is only Welshy)  So having two groups unassisted and assisted would still be unfair. 

Maybe consider having a vote for the best progress and overall best physique?  Still want to keep this as a fun thing and not too serious

I would simply divide it between assisted (eg anything that is outlawed by the IOC) and natural.

I'm easy tho - I know I won't retain my crown as i'm bulking and bulking always looks less impressive than the cut so its by the by for me

But, the problem with the IOC banned list is that they ban certain fat burners, and I bet a number have used products containing synephrine without knowing it in the past 2 years.  If we have a line, it needs to be drawn, and this is a minefield IMO.

Or should we simply say no prohormones / AS / banned fat burners for the duration of the Shape-Up?  Would the prohormone users feel disadvantaged?  Are people happy to take people's word for it too?

James


But, the problem with the IOC banned list is that they ban certain fat burners, and I bet a number have used products containing synephrine without knowing it in the past 2 years.  If we have a line, it needs to be drawn, and this is a minefield IMO.

Or should we simply say no prohormones / AS / banned fat burners for the duration of the Shape-Up?  Would the prohormone users feel disadvantaged?  Are people happy to take people's word for it too?

I wouldn't ban assistance, simply seperate it into Assisted (prohormones / AS / banned fat burners etc) and none Assisted (eg just whey, creatine etc).

In reality of if anyone inadvertently using an outlawed med (eg synephrine) in a cold med, they wouldn't be using it delibrately and for a significant period of time, unlike some real world competitors who make their money off the sport.

I for one will be using AAS and some peptides from start of Feb next year and a ban on AAS would outlaw me  

I thinks its best to just have one group and like the previous shape ups just state assisted and list the things your using.

Like Hazel said it's only abit of fun and motivation for peoples training.

Will have a go at this this time I think, will conincide nicely with being allowed to train again.