Making your own fat burner/energy supp?

Has anybody tried making their own fat burner/energy supp other than a typical ECA stack?
 
You could do something along the lines of 'warrior blaze' -
 
Geranamine (1,3 Dimethylamylamine) £15.99 (40mg x90)
Caffeine Pro £3.99 (200mg x100)
Mega Green Tea Extract £9.99 (450mg x90 - 98% Polyphenols)
Total - £29.97 (for 90 servings)
 
You get 20mg less geranamine per serving but 2x caffeine and extra green tea. With seperate ingredients you can control how much you take and experiment with more or less of each. You could also make your own 'Jack3d' style pre workout supp without the fillers.

*Plus if you already have the bulk ingredients i.e. caffeine/green tea tabs you can just buy some Geranamine and make the above stack.

i got someone im training on a budget fat burner stack which is
 
mega green tea -9.99
yohimine -19.99
l cartine -7.99
caffiene - 2.99
l argine (may seem a bit weird having a n02 in a burner but it works for him)
 
all 90 caps and has lost 1stone of pure fat in 1 month due to diet and exercise as well it all comes to roughly 35quid for 3months take 3 times a day of each not caffiene only morning and pre workout,

louis G

mega green tea -9.99
yohimine -19.99
l cartine -7.99
caffiene - 2.99
l argine (may seem a bit weird having a n02 in a burner but it works for him)

Interesting stack - is the Yohimbine 2.5g a serving, so 7.5g a day?
Could you explain why you use these specific ingredients?
 

yeah its 7.5mg a day
 
green tea - help with keeping a good metabolsimum and helps thermogenics also helps move free radicals from the body
 
caffeine - helps with energy and aids in thermogenics to
 
l cartine - aids the mobillity of fat being used for energy,also use it at night to help fat being moved
 
yohimbine - aids in stoborn fat being moved
 
argine - helps make blood vessels open and lets more nutrians to the body
 
i chose this particular ingrediant due to most fat burners containing caffeine and green tea and the other ingrediants due to people and my self who have use the l cartine and yohimbine have said that it helps with fat burning effects
 
also the person who is taking struggles with weight loss he took them at 16st now is 15.1st thats from one month will do 2more month hoping to lose another 1st maybe 1/2st and the will have a month break off them

Unless you have your own lab in which you can manufacture thyroid drugs and Sympathomimetic amines then don't bother.

Is Geranamine even proven to help with fat loss..?
I know Caffeine can help...http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7486839
as can Yohimbine.....http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214405

Rakim


Is Geranamine even proven to help with fat loss..?
I know Caffeine can help...http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7486839
as can Yohimbine.....http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214405

 
Not much research out there. Quoted from the warrior blaze description -
 
1,3-Dimethylamylamine (Geranium Stem) - 1,3-Dimethylamylamine resembles the body's own chemical messenger, epinephrine (adrenaline). Like adrenaline, it is a powerful CNS stimulant. It has the power to increase energy, improve mental clarity and provide a great boost in physical performance. In terms of fat loss, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine works through a similar chemical pathway as the infamous ECA stack, causing a rise in cAMP, the chemical messenger that triggers fat release.

There's a question of time and convenience too - I'd rather take less pills than more, as I rattle already in the mornings haha :) (multi, fish oils, test booster, hayfever pills in summer etc etc....)
 
In terms of geranium and fat loss, it's worth noting one of *best* things a "fat burner" can do is control / reduce appetite. Most people don't need a metabolic boost in order to lose weight, but they do require a controlled diet and as strong willed as you can be, everyone has cravings....especially on a carb controlled diet (which is what I'd recommend for anyone looking to lose FAT and not just weight). The best fat burners will give you a bit more energy on a calorie restricted diet, and help control cravings and appetite, which is what Blaze / Various Stim-Based fat burners do.