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Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 16 December 2009 14:35 (permalink)
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His punches have no speed or snap in them , therefor he wont have any power behind them . Anyone whos done a bit of boxing will agree with this .



It didn't seem to do George Foreman any harm.
 
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    Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 16 December 2009 14:54 (permalink)

    I myself stated that his punches wouldnt hurt and i stand by that comment . His punches have no speed or snap in them , therefor he wont have any power behind them . Anyone whos done a bit of boxing will agree with this .
     

    Prehap my GCSE physics is a little off but doesnt force = Mass*Acceleration? Regardless of weather his technique is not good or nor im pretty certain that A he will have alot of mass in his arm and B his acceleration maybe slow but given all his strong man training im also sure it will be quicker than you think and may just seem slower due to his enormous size. 

    If you dont think his punch would hurt your kidding yourself a nearly 300lb bloke isnt going to tickle you with the strength and power that pudz. I agree that better technique will transalte into more power but **** me you would know about it if he hit you it would be like being clubbed as opposed to the short sharp punch of say a trained boxer.


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      Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 16 December 2009 14:56 (permalink)
      George foreman could box though mate .

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      His punches have no speed or snap in them , therefor he wont have any power behind them . Anyone whos done a bit of boxing will agree with this .



      It didn't seem to do George Foreman any harm.



       
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        Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 16 December 2009 15:00 (permalink)
        Ok It would  hurt ., it deffo wouldnt tickle .
        But hes got no technique so he will be lackin on power .
        Also his physique isnt gonna help him in his boxing training ie picking up technique and skills .

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        I myself stated that his punches wouldnt hurt and i stand by that comment . His punches have no speed or snap in them , therefor he wont have any power behind them . Anyone whos done a bit of boxing will agree with this .
         

        Prehap my GCSE physics is a little off but doesnt force = Mass*Acceleration? Regardless of weather his technique is not good or nor im pretty certain that A he will have alot of mass in his arm and B his acceleration maybe slow but given all his strong man training im also sure it will be quicker than you think and may just seem slower due to his enormous size. 

        If you dont think his punch would hurt your kidding yourself a nearly 300lb bloke isnt going to tickle you with the strength and power that pudz. I agree that better technique will transalte into more power but **** me you would know about it if he hit you it would be like being clubbed as opposed to the short sharp punch of say a trained boxer.



         
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          Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 16 December 2009 16:03 (permalink)
          you'd have to be a slug to get hit by him!!  agree his punches look pretty empty!!  but anyone that big if they land is gonna put u out
           
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            Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 16 December 2009 21:46 (permalink)
            dont care about having a dig, he just didnt really land anything and his movement was rubbish amongst everything else.

            kinda of like a joke...

            id say the same thing about any fighter, mariusz is a great strongman but he knows jack about MMA and has showed this amazingly.
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              Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 16 December 2009 22:00 (permalink)
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              dont care about having a dig, he just didnt really land anything and his movement was rubbish amongst everything else.

              kinda of like a joke...

              id say the same thing about any fighter, mariusz is a great strongman but he knows jack about MMA and has showed this amazingly.


              Ok, so heres a question...not just to you, but to all the guys who have slated him after his first fight...
               
              What would you like him to do? He has 'no technique', 'no power', 'no movement' etc ect, so I assume you believe he should give up now?
               
              Serious question, I would like to know the answer
               
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                Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 16 December 2009 22:43 (permalink)
                He reminds me of  silverback gorilla. No matter how slow, sloppy and unskilled the Gorilla is, if it hits you you're f*cked

                 
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                  Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 14:42 (permalink)
                  http://sherdogblog.craveonline.com/blog/2009-12-17#21604

                  If true then he will have a 1-1 record soon.
                   
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                    Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 17:54 (permalink)
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                    dont care about having a dig, he just didnt really land anything and his movement was rubbish amongst everything else.

                    kinda of like a joke...

                    id say the same thing about any fighter, mariusz is a great strongman but he knows jack about MMA and has showed this amazingly.


                    really?? he showed he knew nothin about MMA after only training for it properly for a matter of months??? SHOCK HORROR.. jesus christ!
                    he wins a fight, with minimal specific MMA training, whilst also competing in strongman and he gets slated cos he isnt a great fighter!! yep, he should just give up now.. :-(

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                      Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 19:42 (permalink)
                      no he shouldnt give up

                      but he should get a good camp

                      why dont you just marry mariusz mr.m
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                        Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 20:38 (permalink)
                        Because Im already married to him :)
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                          Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 20:55 (permalink)
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                          His punches have no speed or snap in them , therefor he wont have any power behind them . Anyone whos done a bit of boxing will agree with this .



                          It didn't seem to do George Foreman any harm.


                          Foreman had good technique and handspeed.
                           
                          Hopefully I read this correctly and am not looking at someone using Foreman as an example in a debate about Puds complete lack of ability.
                           
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                            Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 21:46 (permalink)
                            Kicks like a girl and punches like hes banging the table... Absolute fanny but with size, anone half decent will annihilate him imo.
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                              Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 21:51 (permalink)
                              Anyone quarter decent.

                              I think even someone like Kimbo Slice would batter him.
                               
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                                Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 23:32 (permalink)
                                yeh i agree someone like kimbo would beat him.. quite easily probably..
                                end of the day tho, he isnt an MMA fighter, hes a strongman.. so he should get 'some' props.. :-)
                                its like throwin lance armstrong in a UTD shirt and saying he's ****!
                                 
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                                  Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 17 December 2009 23:43 (permalink)
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                                  He reminds me of  silverback gorilla. No matter how slow, sloppy and unskilled the Gorilla is, if it hits you you're f*cked


                                  silverback slow??? sloppy, unskilled??
                                   
                                  they get to around 510 lbs and and are extremely fast far from sloppy,lol.
                                   
                                  with out speed and sharpness his punces would be more like a push. once speed and sharpness are there tecnique will use his weight to get more power in the shots.
                                  best for him to do a take down then pull some limbs of.
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                                    Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 18 December 2009 03:07 (permalink)
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                                    His punches have no speed or snap in them , therefor he wont have any power behind them . Anyone whos done a bit of boxing will agree with this .



                                    It didn't seem to do George Foreman any harm.


                                    Foreman had good technique and handspeed.
                                     
                                    Hopefully I read this correctly and am not looking at someone using Foreman as an example in a debate about Puds complete lack of ability.


                                    You did.
                                    Foreman had decent technique and a good jab but far from great handspeed.  He was a clubbing, scything puncher and generated great power mostly from planting his feet and getting his weight behind a punch.  The OP used lack of handspeed and snap as to why there'd be no power in Pudz's punches.  Yet Foreman could take your head off without it because he had technique, something Pudz doesn't, but that can be learned.  An arm punch from someone as strong as Pudz will be enough to KO a lot of fighters, especially in 4oz gloves.
                                    This is MMA anyway, and not boxing.  Pudz is clearly out to bulldoze anyone in front of him, and until he gasses, which I'd bet is before the end of the first round, the fact he can grab and punch or grab and take down that matters, not his boxing technique which at the moment, is pretty much non- existent.

                                     
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                                      Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 18 December 2009 03:23 (permalink)
                                      So many predictions based on 30 seconds of one sided brawling. You must all have better eyes than me, I must admit I learned very little from that fight lol

                                      As said in the other thread, it's no surprise he won, it will be interesting to see what happens if he's put in against some actual mixed martial artists in the future though

                                      At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I do wish he'd stuck to strongman TBH! Why go from the very top of your sport to maybe being "ok" at another sport? Seems odd to me, but the guy has put in the years in strongman so I guess if he wants a change he's entitled to it. I hope he does well in future


                                       
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                                        Re:Mariusz Pudzianowski MMA debut fight?? 18 December 2009 08:00 (permalink)
                                        you cant compare him to a boxer as he isnt boxing!!!!

                                        This is mma, real fighting. yes somebody GREAT may beat him, but lets be honest, hes an amateur!!!!!

                                        he is the equivalent in mma to any other rank beginner for crying out loud, watch some of todays top fighters and they were all at this stage at one time.

                                        Bloody hell, Josh Koschck entered the UFC with no striking ability whatsoever, now he is practically a title contender!

                                        Some retarded comments in thsi thread from "experts" no doubt.
                                         
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