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Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine Question 22 January 2012 21:36 (permalink)
Hi
 
I have just started this routine by using this write up http://forum.bodybuilding...hp?t=712752&page=1 I plan to follow it properly but after todays session I have realised that I can't squat properly.
I find it very painful in my shoulders to hold the bar when it is resting on the top of my back, I can't seem to reach the bar properly when it is on the back so I have to really strain myself to hold it, as I result I find it difficult to get the top of my legs parallel to the floor when squatting down.
 
What kind of squat could I use instead of the back squat??? I was thinking front squat.
how much rest time should I give myself between sets???
 
Also I have been on a low carb high protein diet to try and loose weight, I decided to incorporate a HIIT workout after the full body workout. Would it be best to do a SSCV workout instead???
 
And finally I want to start doing cardio sessions on my off days, Would it be best to do a fasted run in the morning or a fasted HIIT workout in the morning
 
Thanks guys :)
 
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    Re:Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine Question 22 January 2012 22:06 (permalink)
    If it's hurting then you are probably not doing it correctly. Watch this video, then record yourself and see where you are going wrong.
     
    http://startingstrength.c...the_squat_bar_position
     
    I struggled with it myself for a while, I found a slightly wider grip than recommended helped and then I've worked in to the correct grip over a few weeks. Stick with the squats, the technique isn't easy to nail but when you do they are a great muscle builder.
     
    Rest wise, take what you need.
     
    You are doing starting strength AND trying to lose weight at the same time? I'd say the two are pretty much mutually exclusive.
     
     
     
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      Re:Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine Question 22 January 2012 22:20 (permalink)
      I think the problem is in the shoulders and the kind of grip required, I practise the form in a mirror at home and I can get it pretty good when I don't have to hold a bar on the top of my back.
       
      Would front squats be as effective as back squats?
       
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        Re:Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine Question 23 January 2012 02:13 (permalink)
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        I think the problem is in the shoulders and the kind of grip required, I practise the form in a mirror at home and I can get it pretty good when I don't have to hold a bar on the top of my back.

        Would front squats be as effective as back squats?

        yes but the front squat technic is harder to master
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          Re:Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine Question 25 January 2012 14:15 (permalink)
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          If it's hurting then you are probably not doing it correctly. Watch this video, then record yourself and see where you are going wrong.

          http://startingstrength.c...the_squat_bar_position

          I struggled with it myself for a while, I found a slightly wider grip than recommended helped and then I've worked in to the correct grip over a few weeks. Stick with the squats, the technique isn't easy to nail but when you do they are a great muscle builder.

          Rest wise, take what you need.

          You are doing starting strength AND trying to lose weight at the same time? I'd say the two are pretty much mutually exclusive.



          I been doing squats in my last gym session and they seem to be getting easier with the hand placement but the technique is not 100% there yet but i'm working on it and it should be pretty good after a couple more gym sessions.
           
          The reason I want to employ the starting strength routine is because it involves big compound movements which will train the whole body and so i'm guessing it will help burn the most calories in the gym. I always combine a weights session with 20 mins HIIT workout after which I think will give maximum calorie burn. What do you think, is it a good routine?
           
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            Re:Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine Question 25 January 2012 15:08 (permalink)
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            If it's hurting then you are probably not doing it correctly. Watch this video, then record yourself and see where you are going wrong.

            http://startingstrength.c...the_squat_bar_position

            I struggled with it myself for a while, I found a slightly wider grip than recommended helped and then I've worked in to the correct grip over a few weeks. Stick with the squats, the technique isn't easy to nail but when you do they are a great muscle builder.

            Rest wise, take what you need.

            You are doing starting strength AND trying to lose weight at the same time? I'd say the two are pretty much mutually exclusive.



            I been doing squats in my last gym session and they seem to be getting easier with the hand placement but the technique is not 100% there yet but i'm working on it and it should be pretty good after a couple more gym sessions.

            The reason I want to employ the starting strength routine is because it involves big compound movements which will train the whole body and so i'm guessing it will help burn the most calories in the gym. I always combine a weights session with 20 mins HIIT workout after which I think will give maximum calorie burn. What do you think, is it a good routine?

             
            Glad to hear your are sticking with squats, keep at the technique, it will come.
            To answer your question, yes I do think it's avery good routine....for anyone wanting to build strength.
            But to get the most from it you need to eat plenty of food. To allow your strength/size to increase you generally need a calorie surplus which is totally at odds to losing weight.
             
            If you keep at starting strength and progress the weight you will soon find a HIIT workout after your weights session very difficult indeed, if not impossible as done properly starting strength will be very hard work in a few weeks.
             
            That said, if you are a beginner then you will have a peiod where you will be able to make gains in strength and size whilst losing some weight, make the most of it as it won't last.
             
            You will probably find it easier to do cardio on your rest days from the weight sessions.
             
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