Mass 58 en route.

just placed the order today so cant wait for it. 
 
ill be putting up a blog to keep track of the progress. 

Cool.
 
You got Support and PCT sorted as you will need good for both on this stack - nice looking product if you know what you are doing.

good product mate. as it's a bulker, don't let it give you an excuse to eat crap. eat big and clean and drink plenty water (as you should anyway).
never run support myself, but always have pct ready at the START of your cycle, never wait till the end to get it. goodluck.

You dnt run support supps at all kraven?

yep all sorted for pct and support just cant wait now its like christmas early. diets all in place and clean just gotta up my water intake defo. 
 
cant wait now.

No bill, none, not any more. I used to run milk thistle and a few others but haven't for a few years now. honestly can't say if they made any difference or not, certainly haven't noticed any (except in the wallet). just lots of water now.
 
I sometimes use some hair protection (nizerol and saw palmetto). again how good it does i can't say, i still got plenty hair but it's thinning. I am 42 now though.

Good luck and keep us posted. 

arrived today. 
 
i have some trouble with itchy nips on my last deca an sust cycle to pct is a must for me just to be on the safe side. 
 
cant wait now. ill do some before an after shots aswell to add to the results.

will look out for your log. good luck

right im on day three of this now probably an odd time to post progress but im gonna do it as i experience changes. ill be doing stats at the end of each week.
 
day 1:- head ache soon cured by more water intake. about 6 hours after taking  got a proper sinking feeling in my stomach like as if someone had given me some really bad news.
felt a little anxious but ok.
 
day 2:- still waking up with a funny head ache food and water seems to cure it. have moments of feeling abit angry.
workout on chest and bi's.
good pump which stayed all day but felt very tired after and lathargic.
 
day 3:- got a hardness to my arms and chest i have not had for a long time, not since using sust and deca. head aches still here but its easing off so must be just my body adapting.
generally feeling pretty good, pumped and excited as its back day today. did have a rough night with heart palps and a little breathless-ness but nothing to worry about.
 

i had some bad head aches in the first week. But i had also been spending more time in front of this pc which after a while stings my eye's. I was also very very tired the first week and had problems with acne but all this settled or passed by about day 5.

Water cures all.
I drink 4 or so litres each day. I did find in the 1st week that I was waking up with sweats at night and running to the cupboard to down a 500ml bottle of water - and STILL want more. But generally, no headaches or problems....
 
Hope it goes all good for you mate, sounds like its coming along nicely eh?

something i considered while doing my first week was to cut down on Mass-58 and combine it with SD. I've always been ok on SD, so when i started getting headaches and a bit of acne I considered doing....
 
week 1: 3 caps Mass
week 2: 2 caps mass, 1 cap SD
week 3: 2 caps mass, 1 cap SD
week 4: 2 or 3 caps SD
 
still gives a decent amount of each product plus a tub of each would allow for 2 cycles....however after week 1 the headaches stopped so i just continued with the Mass 58, something to consider for the future though.

Kraven I would just stick to the mass58, not sure adding more SD would be a good idea.

I dunno.... it could work...

Lone wolf your not really adding much more, Mass has 8mg of SD per cap while SD caps have 10mg so a mere 2mg of SD increase. However your taking in 40mg less of LMG and 10mg less Ergo ED....so if anything your decreasing your overall intake.
 
Believe me this would be an effective cycle with probable less sides (for me anyway as I'm fine on upto 40mg SD doses). possibly drier too (again i hold less water on SD then on LMG or Ergo)
 

ay up guys,
 
yeah ill stick to what ive got his time round.
day 4:- headaches nearly gone seems to have been a temp thing with my body getting used to it. also still feel firm and a pump over all worked areas. had a break today so its shoulders tomorow. 
all the palps and funny feelings have gone now just more focused.
 
 

Water intake can help a lot with headaches - drink and when you are not drinking water, drink some more water.

Kraven


Lone wolf your not really adding much more, Mass has 8mg of SD per cap while SD caps have 10mg so a mere 2mg of SD increase. However your taking in 40mg less of LMG and 10mg less Ergo ED....so if anything your decreasing your overall intake.

Believe me this would be an effective cycle with probable less sides (for me anyway as I'm fine on upto 40mg SD doses). possibly drier too (again i hold less water on SD then on LMG or Ergo)

I might give that a go later next year mate... I still got a cycle-worth of SD left over in the cupboard. Lower does of LMG and Ergo wont matter when your getting drier and leaner gains on SD with less sides. Like you, I can hold up to 40mg SD with minimal sides. Although I cant really say I suffered on M58....

There was a tonne i liked about Mass-58, a great mass builder. I did get a few more sides then normal but most of these were short lived (headaches, acne, bout's of tiredness, increase bp, water retension)....I get none of these on SD alone, but i've over done Sd over the last few years and it's less effective now....I get a bit tired on Ergo and hold more water.....as for LMG i've ran it once before a long time ago and i can't say i remember much about it, just it wasn't as 'potent' as ergo. So for me i feel this may be a good compremise, besides a tub of each would give me 2 potent cycles.
How's it going Project?