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RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 01 August 2005 02:30 (permalink)

yes, tuesday, thursday and sunday

Makes things even worse. You definitely need to have a look at the links I posted earlier, especially the second one. Read through it and post any questions you may have.
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    RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 01 August 2005 02:31 (permalink)
    i dont understand that if i cut my workouts by two thirds how ill grow even more, wont the muscle grow then stop growing before my next session?
     
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      RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 01 August 2005 03:06 (permalink)
      Your not cutting your workouts by 2/3 your adding.

      The second link advises a 4 day split, so you will be there more time, just the time will be better spent, with a Split, you can blast the muscle as hard as you can, and it has plenty of time to heal and reover, just in time for the next time it is worked.

      With your present workout the muscles worked at the end wont be getting enough work as you will be more fatigued by the time you get to them, especially when you have easier excercise's like Bicep Curls and Crunches before Squats, and your also missing a proper Chest Excercise too, and im not sure what a Tricep Curl is.

       
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        RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 01 August 2005 11:03 (permalink)


        ORIGINAL: jonbaker

        top pro bodybuilders account for less than 1% of all trainees. They have outstanding genetics and or have used drugs. If you are on gear then fine, if you have great genetics then fine, but if you are like the average joe, training like the pros will get you no where which is why so many people fail and give up.

        Read Beyond Brawn, you might learn something



        Never heard so much BS in my life. Not even going to bother reading it. Although I am still learning all the time, I have been lifting for 12-13 years + reading and researching all that time aswel. About 90% of the readings basicly say if you are serious about your training, eventualy you will have to go on to a 4 day split to allow yourself to work each muscle group intensly enough with also allowing yourself enough time to recover. I think you would be better researching some more so that you can learn something instead of being stuck at a beginners level.
         
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          RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 01 August 2005 17:40 (permalink)

          quote:

          ORIGINAL: jonbaker

          top pro bodybuilders account for less than 1% of all trainees. They have outstanding genetics and or have used drugs. If you are on gear then fine, if you have great genetics then fine, but if you are like the average joe, training like the pros will get you no where which is why so many people fail and give up.

          Read Beyond Brawn, you might learn something



          Never heard so much BS in my life. Not even going to bother reading it. Although I am still learning all the time, I have been lifting for 12-13 years + reading and researching all that time aswel. About 90% of the readings basicly say if you are serious about your training, eventualy you will have to go on to a 4 day split to allow yourself to work each muscle group intensly enough with also allowing yourself enough time to recover. I think you would be better researching some more so that you can learn something instead of being stuck at a beginners level.


          This stops now. It is obvious you have varying ideas on training. That I do not have a problem with. I do, however, have a problem with the way you too are handling your "discussion". Keep it civil if you are going to continue.
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            RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 01 August 2005 20:52 (permalink)
            If you have been training 12 - 13 years then you should have reached your genetic potential for muscle growth years ago in which case i would agree that 4 day splits are ok to fine tune any lagging body parts and maintain your physique. My comments were directed at people wanting to gain mass with no concern of detailed definition yet.

            If you think you haven't alreday reached your genetic potential then maybe it's because of the way you train. I dont mean to insult you or anyone else i was just offering my opinion until your sarcasm and ignorant attitude got the better of me.

            I'm surprised that you haven't come accross Stuart Mcroberts Beyond Brawn in your research. I used to do 4 day splits until i read that and it changed my attitude towards training. Since then i haven't looked back...

            sorry jackhammer for turning this thread sour, i will say no more on the subject
             
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              RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 01 August 2005 23:38 (permalink)

              sorry jackhammer for turning this thread sour, i will say no more on the subject

              Thanks for the apology. You guys can debate back and forth all day long, just make sure it does not turn nasty. Keep it civil, that is all we ask!
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                RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 02 August 2005 01:21 (permalink)
                . Your both a pair of ****ing wankers. Wait stop don't ban me yet, i'm only kidding . I appoligise to you both for my behaviour . We both do obviously have different views on training. I'm sorry I didn't respect your opinion, I should have been more open minded to different methods. If you want to continue this debate, then i'm happy to do so, but I promise to be civil this time.
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                  RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 02 August 2005 05:14 (permalink)
                  Thanks for your apology as well Archie.
                  Let it sink.... I can swim.
                   
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                    RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 22 August 2005 02:16 (permalink)
                    I've heard a lot about the HST programme,and i'm thinking about giving it a go.I've been to the HSt website and have a good idea of the principles etc.Just wondering if any of u guys have tried the prog(prob have) and what u think of it/what ur results were?.And i'm i right in thinking u do 2 weeks of the 15 rep scheme then 2 weeks of 10,2weeks of 5 then 2 weeks of eccentric lifts?.How long do u recommend for the strategic de conditioning phase?,is a week enough?Ur advice would be gratefully received.
                     
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                      RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 22 August 2005 12:17 (permalink)
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                        RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 22 August 2005 19:28 (permalink)

                        ORIGINAL: DrAgOn.BoXeR

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                        Absolute B0ll0cks m8 your trying to sell your site.

                        Push_Beyond_The_Pain m8 I havent done HST but others on here have so do a search and you should get some answers.

                        Humph
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                          RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 10 September 2005 14:47 (permalink)
                          Hey. This is my first post. Great site you guys have here. Well here's my routine, it has a lot of the TBT by Chad Waterbury elements about it basically because I was 9 stone 0 1 1/2 years ago and now weigh 11 after doing TBT twice. Have been on 4 day upper lower upper lower but starting new on monday. Want to get up to 13 stone then cut down to 12 stone 8 80kg.

                          Week 1 - Workout 1 - 3 sets, 5 reps
                          Chins
                          Dips
                          Squats
                          Deadlift
                          Pullups
                          Pushups

                          Week 1 - Workout 2 - 3 sets, 8 reps
                          Flat Bench Barbell Press
                          Bent over Barbell Rows
                          Deadlift
                          Squat
                          Standing Dumbbell Shoulder Press
                          Dumbbell Shrugs

                          Week - 1 Workout 3 - 2 sets, 15 reps
                          Squat
                          Deadlift
                          Incline Bench Dumbbell Press
                          Dumbbell Rows
                          Standing Calf Raise
                          Leg Curls

                          Week 2 - Same excercises sets and reps but use antagonist training
                          Week 3 - Same excercises but add 1 set to each excercise
                          Week 4 - Same excercises but add 1 set to each excercise and use antagonist training

                          Week 5 - Workout 1 - 2 sets, 18 reps
                          Lat Pulldowns
                          Decline Dumbbell Press
                          Squat
                          Deadlift
                          Barbell Curls
                          Skull Crushers

                          Week 5 - Workout 2 - 2 sets, 8 reps
                          Flat Bench Dumbbell Press
                          Upright Dumbbell Rows
                          Deadlift
                          Squat
                          Standing Barbell Shoulder Press
                          Barbell Shrugs

                          Week 5 - Workout 3 - 2 sets, 12 reps
                          Squat
                          Deadlift
                          Upright Barbell Rows
                          Incline Barbell Press
                          Leg Curls
                          Standing Calf Raise

                          Week 6 - same sets, reps, excercises just use antagonist training
                          Week 7 - same reps, excercises but add a set to each excercises
                          Week 8 - same reps, excercises but add a set to each excercises and uses antagonist training

                          Tuesdays and Thursday
                          20 mins Light Cardio and Abs
                           
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                            RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 12 September 2005 08:41 (permalink)
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                              RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 17 September 2005 14:55 (permalink)
                              My Stats 27 6' 80Kg low B,fat. Training on and off 10yrs.
                              Thinking of first cycle soon:

                              1-10: 400mg Cyp
                              1-4: 30-40mg dbol ed
                              1-12: 10mg Nolva each night (probably not necessary)
                              13-14-15
                              Clomid 100-50-50
                              Nolva 40-30-20
                              Trib ed.

                              Training 2xwk at moment Mon morn Thurs Eve 3.5 days rest. So was thinking 3xwk when on
                              Mon morn, Wed mid, Fri eve= 2.5 days rest or 60 hrs.

                              45 min H.I.T. style

                              Crunch (full crunch's or jack knives as warm up to get sweating) 3 sets of 10
                              Chin (weighted) 10x0, 6x 25kg, 5x25, 4 or 5 x25
                              Press (standing 10x20, 8x60, 6to8 x60, 6to8 x60
                              Dip (weighted) 10x0, 8x40, 6to8x40, 6to8x40
                              Dead (Trapbar Deadlift) 10x20, 10x40, 20rest pause reps x80kg
                              Shrug (including calf raise) 10x40, 8x80, 8x80, 6to8x80

                              Breakfast- Oatmeal and fruit, eggs on toast and coffee
                              Mid morn- P,Shake and fruit.
                              Lunch- Spud, Tuna+Eggs salad
                              Mid aft- Shake and fruit
                              Tea- Pasta or Rice + chicken + Veg
                              Sup Shake and or another good meal.

                              About 20 to 40grms Protien 6 times day.
                              Sleep 8hrs night. Bed at 10 up at 6 for work.
                              “An hour before midnight is worth 2 after” Dr Vogal.

                              Also drinking several LTRs water spread evenly throughout the day.
                              Also multi vits and loads of vit C.
                               
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                                RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 04 October 2005 15:36 (permalink)
                                OK, here's mine - all are 4 sets of between 6 and 8 reps, as per standard hypertrophic training after a 5 minute warm up on the cross-trainer and an initial warm up set.

                                MONDAY - chest, shoulders and triceps

                                Flat bench press
                                Incline dumbell bench press
                                Barbell military press
                                Dumbell shoulder press
                                Tricep dips - after failure on the last set, I whip the assisting cushion up and carry on on that, when I reach failure on that, I increase the level of assistance, and repeat the process until my arms are burning.

                                20 mins on cross-trainer at 145-150 heartrate, 3 minutes cool down the then stretching


                                TUESDAY - cardio only

                                40 mins on cross-trainerat 145-150 heartrate, 3 minutes cool down the then stretching after a scoop of whey in the morning


                                WEDNESDAY - upper back and biceps

                                Close grip lat pull down
                                Bent over rows
                                Shrugs
                                Dumbell preacher curls - after failure on the last set, I use the next dumbell down, and carry on on that, when I reach failure on that, I move down to the next lower dumbell, and repeat the process until my arms are burning.
                                Reverse wrist curls (tiny frame, tiny forearms - my get plenty of exercise on my flexors but I don't on my extensors, hence these) - I do the same past failure technique as with the bicep curl

                                20 mins on cross-trainer at 145-150 heartrate, 3 minutes cool down the then stretching


                                THURSDAY - cardio only

                                40 mins on cross-trainerat 145-150 heartrate, 3 minutes cool down the then stretching after a scoop of whey in the morning


                                FRIDAY - lower back, abs and legs

                                Kneeling ab crunch (using a pull-down pulley and rope)
                                Squats (arrgh ya bastard, I hate these)
                                Straight-leg deadlifts
                                Calf raises

                                20 mins on cross-trainer at 145-150 heartrate, 3 minutes cool down the then stretching

                                My stats: 5'6", weighing in at 11st 9lb/74KG
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                                  RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 07 October 2005 01:43 (permalink)
                                  Day 1
                                  Clean - Progressive 5's
                                  Log Power Press - 6x5
                                  Wide Grip Chins - 4x8
                                  Incline BB Bench - 3x12

                                  Day 3
                                  Squat - Progressive 5's
                                  Close Grip Bench - 6x5
                                  Shoulder Press - 4x8
                                  Close Grip Supinated Chins - 3x12

                                  Day 5
                                  Deadlift - Progressive 5's
                                  Barbell Row - 6x5
                                  DB Bench - 4x8
                                  1 Arm DB OH Press - 3x12
                                   
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                                    RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 17 October 2005 18:09 (permalink)
                                    Bench
                                    Narrow Bench
                                    Hanging knee lift

                                    Bent Over row
                                    Lat Pulldown
                                    Barbell Curl

                                    Military Press
                                    Lateral Raise
                                    Weighted Crunch

                                    Squat
                                    Dead
                                    Plate Pinch
                                     
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                                      RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 27 October 2005 04:57 (permalink)
                                      Set 1. Incline Dumbbell Flyes. Pre-exhaust.

                                      Set 2. Incline Dumbbell Flyes. Triple Drop-set.

                                      Set 3. Bench Press. Straight Set

                                      Set 4. Bench Press. Triple Drop Set.


                                      Tuesday (Legs)

                                      Set 1. Leg Extension. Pre-exhaust.

                                      Set 2. Leg Extension. Triple Drop-set.

                                      Set 3. Back Squat. Straight Set.*

                                      Set 4. Hamstring Curl. Pre-exhaust.

                                      Set 5. Hamstring Curl. Triple Drop-set.

                                      Set 6. Stiff Legged Deadlift. Straight Set

                                      Set 7. Calf Raise. Triple Drop-set

                                      *Can be replaced by Hack Squat or Leg Press; if this is the case I recommend you use the triple drop-set technique.


                                      Thursday (Shoulders/Triceps)

                                      Set 1. Side Laterals. Pre-exhaust.

                                      Set 2. Side Laterals. Triple Drop-set

                                      Set 3. Seated Dumbbell Press. Straight Set.*

                                      Set 4. Seated Dumbbell Press. Triple Drop-set*

                                      Set 5. Machine Dips. Triple Drop-set**

                                      *Can be replaced by any form of shoulder press.

                                      **Can be replaced by any triceps exercise incorporating the triple drop-set technique.


                                      Friday (Back/Biceps)

                                      Set 1. Dumbbell Pullovers. Pre-exhaust*

                                      Set 2. Dumbbell pullovers. Triple Drop-set*

                                      Set 3. Wide-grip Pulldowns. Straight Set

                                      Set 4. Wide-grip Pulldowns. Triple Drop-set

                                      Set 5. Deadlift. Straight Set

                                      Set 6. Hammer Curls. Triple Drop-set

                                      *Can be replaced with machine pullovers or straight-arm pushdowns.

                                      Im doing the routine that tony posted right now. Its very good.. I just Hate doing back squats i have to do like 25 reps for it cause i cant lift alot of weight over my head. (workout at home)
                                       
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                                        RE: Members Routines....POST YOURS! 30 October 2005 21:59 (permalink)
                                        Day 1 -
                                        Olympic squats
                                        3x6
                                        1x15
                                        Straight leg deadlifts
                                        1x12
                                        1x8
                                        1x4
                                        1x15
                                        Standing calf raises
                                        1x25
                                        1x25

                                        Day 2 -
                                        Flat bench press
                                        3x6
                                        1x15
                                        Incline bench press
                                        1x12
                                        1x8
                                        1x4
                                        1x15
                                        Shoulder press
                                        1x12
                                        1x8
                                        1x4
                                        1x15
                                        Dips
                                        3x12

                                        Day 3 -
                                        Deadlifts
                                        3x5
                                        Dumbell rows
                                        3x6
                                        1x15
                                        Iso rows
                                        1x12
                                        1x8
                                        1x4
                                        1x15
                                        Seated curls
                                        3x12
                                         
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