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Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 01:19 ( #1 )
was hinken brazilian jujitsu and boxing

mabye muay thai wen i get descent at boxing. mabye judo for the throws...

what are your thoughts
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 16:12 ( #2 )
My thoughts are avoid street fights as there is no martial art that will prepare you to face multiple attackers and/or attacks with weapons.

If you fight on the streets you are eventually going to end up in jail/crim record or injured.
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 18:34 ( #3 )
I'd say boxing and wrestling. I wouldn't bother with BJJ if all you want is to get better at street fighting.

There are no rules in street fighting so its best avoided like the above comment.
 

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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 18:41 ( #4 )
My thoughts are avoid street fights as there is no martial art that will prepare you to face multiple attackers and/or attacks with weapons

What the fcuk is Krav Maga then ? 
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 19:07 ( #5 )
Badboy makes a good point, but it would be good if you knew how to hold your own, i would say kickboxing you could take someones leg out with one good kick couldnt you? i mean hurt there leg so they struggle to walk not break it btw.
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 19:11 ( #6 )
avoidance would be my first choice

my second would be a mix of krav maga, boxing and ufc

ive never done ufc but im guessing it would fall in nicely with the boxing element so maybe just ufc and a bit of krav maga

thai boxing may be ok but things like roundhouses, etc are not recommended in a street fight, nothing above the hip is as far as i know (in terms of kicks)

i dont see the point in learnign a martial art just to make you good at street fighting
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 19:30 ( #7 )
In street fighting there no rules is there? If your getting a beating by 2/3 boys a kick in the balls sounds good to me.
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 19:32 ( #8 )
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In street fighting there no rules is there? If your getting a beating by 2/3 boys a kick in the balls sounds good to me.


yeah there are no rules but at the same time ive seen peopel attempt showmanship on the streets and due to wearing 5hit slickers (i dont know the technical name im afraid) they end up on their back and with alcohol having been consumed the fight is over as their reaction times to get back up are not there

hence the comment about not going too high with kicks

im not an expert though as i prefer avoidance any day of the week :)
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 19:33 ( #9 )
Have you been to a krav maga class Everton?

I have a mate who does Krav, and tbh, it would not prepare you for mutliple attackers in reality.

Saying something and actually doing it are two different things, and the things i've seen of krav it won't prepare you for a serious attack by multiple people.
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 19:57 ( #10 )
Going to a good MMA gym and sparring lots.

Or if you wanted to seperate, a good Muay Thai school combined with wrestling, both with loads of sparring/grappling.
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 20:54 ( #11 )
How would wrestling be good from what i understand is street fights are people standing throwing punches lol

By kicks i meant kicks to the legs, if you know where to kick a person in the leg you can hurt them hence why i said kick boxing.

Whats muay thai entail, clinch work what else?
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 20:55 ( #12 )
And whats krav maga, never heard of it.

What about the stuff bruce lee did was it kung fu?
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 21:05 ( #13 )
Wrestling is useful as lots of fights end up in the grappling/clinch range IME, provided you don't get in a good punch first lol.

Learning how to stay on your feet and keep your balance, which wrestling will teach is a big advantage.

Don't forget that strength and size are also useful in fights. Not saying that being strong will automatically win you fights, but having a strength and size advantage does make a big difference, there's a reason why heavyweights aren't allowed to fight lightweights lol.
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 21:26 ( #14 )
Yeah when i think of wrestling when fighting i think of takedowns lol thats abit dangerous as you could slap the boys head off the ground and it could get really serious then.
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 21:28 ( #15 )
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My thoughts are avoid street fights as there is no martial art that will prepare you to face multiple attackers and/or attacks with weapons.

If you fight on the streets you are eventually going to end up in jail/crim record or injured.



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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 27 June 2009 23:50 ( #16 )
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Have you been to a krav maga class Everton?

I have a mate who does Krav, and tbh, it would not prepare you for mutliple attackers in reality.

Saying something and actually doing it are two different things, and the things i've seen of krav it won't prepare you for a serious attack by multiple people.


Not personally but from what i;ve been told there isn't really any "Proper" fellers who teach it over here.  I think it very watered down into a self defense fitness class for posh ****s over here.  But over Israel and US there are meant to be some top instructors about dealing with all variety of street attacks ect.

IMO - Best thing to learn is how to fight end off, all this fancy **** tends to **** all if you haven't got "any fight" inside you already.    As Big bad Bas Rutten say's " There are no rules in a street fight, anything go's" and the best "I don't believe in a eye for an eye, i believe in two eyes for an eye"  Lol

In a street fight all you want o do is to survive, so if that mean ripping the ****s eye out or biting the ****s face then so be it.  (be a bit hard practicing this" lol
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 28 June 2009 01:14 ( #17 )
Krav includes eye pokes and gouging etc which aren't particular honorable ways to fight, but they are effective.

Also perfect some basic submission moves such as a basic choke, and you've already made yourself far more capable than you were previously.
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 28 June 2009 03:27 ( #18 )
thanks for all the replies.

yeh i agree that it should be avoided, but when you live in a place where its eat or be ate ...... lol.  just to be able to hadle yourself.

so let me see, brazilian jujitsu is usless on street ??  ive had a few tell me this, i thought it woulda covered the whole ground element of a fight.  wrestling seems to be popular ...

i might start emailing the different schools and see what they say ( while trying to ignore any biases lol).

thanks again
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 28 June 2009 04:38 ( #19 )
mattpower

the problem you have is that the likelihood is that you would have been done in numerous times by the time you will have learnt how to effectively use any of the aforementioned techniques or arts

some of them will take years to learn, i did about 7 or 8 months of boxing training (before i moved away) and whilst the confidence is up as you are fighting fit and regularly fighting, 7 or 8 months is not long enough to teach things liek footwork

i may be wrong but if you mention streetfighting in any of the emails i personally would ignore you

at the end of the day if you are not game then forget taking up anything, on the streets its kill or be killed, if they poke out your eye, you take out both of theirs if you are not willing to seriously injure someone then do not get involved, this is not me being a keyboard hero its me telling the truth
the last street fight i saw resulted in a death, after someone got involved with someones mrs, he got battered (as did a number of innocent bystanders) then got run over and killed
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Re:Most effective for street fighting? - 28 June 2009 11:47 ( #20 )
The most important thing, is landing the first punch/kick, doing it quickly and giving your oponent no chance to fight back.

It sounds harsh i know.

I dont go looking for fights, but you often get the local hardman trying his luck. If you go for me, im going to beat you unconcious and disappear very quick.
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