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NEED HELP FAST!!! 10 November 2009 15:31 (permalink)
Hi need advice, I have 3 weeks to lose 1.5 stone.  I know about good eating, diet plans etc etc but I just dont have the time do do it the best way.
 
Can I ask what is the best Crash course you can think of to get near that target.  This is a one off and I wont be doing it again, so no lectures please on the correct way to diet. I would rather have some sort of guidlines than just total starvation.
 
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    Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 10 November 2009 15:41 (permalink)
    You will need to post your current "stats" height, weight etc for anyone to be able to work anything out. That said, while im no expert I think short of surgery 1.5 stone in 3 weeks is near-on impossible.
     
    A stone is 14lb? so 7lb a week for 3 weeks. "normal" rate is around 2lb a week so your looking for nearly a 300% increase in weightloss above the "norm".
     
    I will be interested to see any replys though. Good luck.
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      Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 10 November 2009 15:53 (permalink)
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      You will need to post your current "stats" height, weight etc for anyone to be able to work anything out. That said, while im no expert I think short of surgery 1.5 stone in 3 weeks is near-on impossible.
       
      A stone is 14lb? so 7lb a week for 3 weeks. "normal" rate is around 2lb a week so your looking for nearly a 300% increase in weightloss above the "norm".
       
      I will be interested to see any replys though. Good luck.

      Hi, do you think a stone would be possibile with the following data?
      Hi here are my stats -
       
      Height -  5'8
      Weight -  16.5 st
      Bodyfat - Around 20% to be honest
      Cardio -  50min fast walking twice a day
                      Punchbag work 3 times per week 50 min
                      weight training 3 times per week 1 hr
       
      Will the following help spped up the weight loss?
       
      Sunas
      Water tablets
      Cant take Eph so Clen or Therm from from Maximuscle
       
      Thanks
       
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        Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 10 November 2009 16:07 (permalink)
        Sorry but im still learning myself, only been going to the gym for 5 days hehe, I cant really give you any advice as to the ammount of weight you can exspect to loose.

        Hopfully somone will answer your questions though, this board can be a little slow.
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          Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 16:10 (permalink)
          Do some research on DNP.
           
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            Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 16:23 (permalink)
            Out of interest what does DNP standfor?
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              Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 16:50 (permalink)
              Eat 1200-1500 calories a day and do a lot of cardio!

              Easy fix for right calories would be 1 x oats-so-simple for breakfast and a weight watchers meal for dinner & tea.  1 rice cake twice a day for a snack.   Drink only water, and about 2-3 litres of it a day.

              DON'T eat like this long term though, but it will help you shift a lot over 3 weeks.

              Running, swimming and cycling (not on gym machines) are best for weight loss.

              **** taking drugs, too many junkies about already.
               
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                Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 17:15 (permalink)
                I don't think this is possible or come to that even advisable.

                One pound in weight is around 3,500 calories and you are talking about losing a pound a day. 


                Assuming you have an average BMR of 2,500 calories a day, you need to eat 3,500 calories under that each day to lose that pound. That means a net calorie intake of - 1,000 calories. Even assuming you eat only 1,000 calories a day, you'd need to do enough exercise to burn 2,000 calories.

                Doing that every day, with that level of food intake, will not be good for you!

                Set some more realistic goals.
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                  Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 17:43 (permalink)
                  DNP stands for Dinitrophenol

                  If it's short term, the cabbage soup diet apparently works well - you sh!t loads though.
                   
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                    Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 17:45 (permalink)
                    is this for a weigh in? if so its totaly different
                     
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                      Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 17:47 (permalink)
                      if its just for a weigh in depending how big you are what your currently eating etc its fairly easy to loose 6-12lbs over night then put it straight back on after the weigh
                       
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                        Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 17:52 (permalink)
                        Thanks for all the replies lads, I cant tell you what its for (Sry thats sounds daft but I cant).  The DNP looks good and as I say It is a one off.

                        This is why I love this site so much nobody has come on and judged me, instead just fiven me advice that I will use.

                        Thanks lads, will let you know how I get on.
                         
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                          Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 17:56 (permalink)
                          im really not botherd what its for

                          but cant you even say if its for some form of "weigh in" or is it a permenant weight loss for some reason?
                           
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                            Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 18:09 (permalink)
                            I would advise against DNP.  Unless you know exactly what you are doing and it is administered properly and monitored, it can be fatal. Yes it will kill you, as simple as that.

                            If you are looking purely for the scales to reveal a weight loss of 1 1/2 stone then I would imagine some sort of keto diet then combined with water manipulation towards the end.



                             
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                              Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 18:55 (permalink)
                              swordfish


                              im really not botherd what its for

                              but cant you even say if its for some form of "weigh in" or is it a permenant weight loss for some reason?


                              Yeah I have to hit my target for my future career.
                               
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                                Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 18:56 (permalink)
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                                I would advise against DNP.  Unless you know exactly what you are doing and it is administered properly and monitored, it can be fatal. Yes it will kill you, as simple as that.

                                If you are looking purely for the scales to reveal a weight loss of 1 1/2 stone then I would imagine some sort of keto diet then combined with water manipulation towards the end.


                                Thanks RedHot, I will be sure not to overdose, as you have said and what I have read on it, overdose can lead to death due to no limit in core body temp.
                                 
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                                  Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 19:12 (permalink)
                                  my advice is avoid DNP even if you do know what you are doing!

                                  DNP is used as an industrial dye - it is yellow - you want to know how strong a dye it is:
                                  put 1 capsule of DNP in a plastic bag in a white pill bottle. Leave that in a drawer - come back 1 month later and the inside of the draw is yellow!

                                  In addition to putting this powerful chemical dye that stains all body secretions yellow - and makes your semen toxic to women - with the possibility of making them infertile - is a metabolic poison

                                  DNP interferes with the production of atp at the cellular level. When metabolising energy the body normally makes atp for cells to use, in the presence of DNP this process results in the production of heat; when you provide a sugar substrate the body instead of making energy makes heat, the more substrate the more heat;
                                  you creat a situation where your body is using energy to try and cool itself, but has virtually no glycogen to fuel it - fat is used. DNP is known to spare protein - hence its use in bodybuilding.

                                  One obvious drawback is that there is no feedback stop to the increase in body temperature - you can - and people have literally got so hot their internal organs were part cooked.

                                  The biggest risk is becoming dehydrated, which of course given the amount of sweatlosses - is big. And this is how at least one very public death happened in the US - a user of the elitefitness board was on DNP, and went clubbing popped some E and became dehydrated.

                                  At the emergency room he was adminsitered rehydration solution - IV - which contains glucose - and he cooked from the inside

                                  The risks are high - but fortunately most get away with it.

                                  the sides are nasty - you are hot, i mean its -5 and you will be sweating.
                                  you will leave sheets on the bed wet and thats with a fan on full blast over you.
                                  you have no energy and your cognition will be impared - its hard enough to stay awake let alone work out when using DNP

                                  My advice - dont take this supposed short cut - the risks are very high, and frankly it takes a certain mentality to use DNP safely and successfully - which even if you have - isnt worth it - do it the slightly slower way instead.
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                                    Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 19:16 (permalink)
                                    I forgot to add - you have no strength, no energy -
                                    DNP also creates a massive calorie deficit - you have increased expenditure and the waste of cho calories going in

                                    and in case you were thinking of going zero carb - without carbs the effectiveness of dnp is limited - you have to eat them to get the effect - making it rather unpleasant.

                                    also due to the nature of DNP - an anaphalatic allergic reaction is very possible -and it is very advisable to have started a course of anti-histamines and have a good supply on hand - as well as knowing the acute dose of them and signs of anaphalaxis - before you start.
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                                      Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 19:21 (permalink)
                                      Thanks for that Les, You have opened my eyes with that.  I think the risk outweighs the benefit so I dont think the DNP route is for me.

                                      Thanks again.
                                       
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                                        Re:NEED HELP FAST!!! 11 November 2009 19:33 (permalink)
                                        DNP imo is not the answer no matter what your goals. Great info from Les.
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