NY Pro results - discussion

Ronny gets shafted again - they guys turns up without a weak spot - he should be in the police station reporting a robbery.
 
Kai Greene looked terrible in the front double bicep

It reminds me of this !


I forgot how I was reminded of this
 
Kai is another athlete who has been well and truely Oscared.

I also think Lionel in 4th caught a bad break up against Craig Richardson who surely was getting some love after the MD video serioes on him.
 
You gotta love bodybuilding :)

i cant really add any discussion les, because i agree with you!
 
kai may have ronnie on mass, but absoloutely everything else he is behind in.  i also think kai looks awfull!

Kai doesnt have ronnie on mass either :


No one wants to diss Oscar Arden - but he ruins physiques - look at Victor's distention, look at Kai, look at Rodney Roller even - every one has muscle but at the expense of the midsection.
To be a good guru you need to bring it tight - I also think its interesting that George Farrah said that when Kai has his blood work done he made Kai go off everything, low protein and rest up to give his body a break - which goes along with the thinking that says Oscar simply pumps his athletes with twice as much of everything as anyone else or more until a result is achieved!
 

Kai isn't working with Oscar, he hasn't worked with Oscar since the Olympia in October. he has been working with George Farah for a while now.
 
Interview post show with Kai and George
http://www.flexonline.com...sts/kai-greene-wins-ny
 
Kai, while not looking his best out-massed everyone on stage by a fair margin and as George said, brought Kai in at 90% so he could just qualify.
 
A 90% kai will always beat a 100% Rockell, sad to say but its true. I am a massive fan of Ronny but unless he adds more size to his frame, he will not be in contention against guys like Kai, Cutler, Heath, Branch...
 
There is no here or there IMO...kai had Rockell.
 

 

 
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Big Les


Kai doesnt have ronnie on mass either : 

that was a typo on my part, it should have said ronny... lol
 
 

As I state in most of my posts, I HATE KAI GREEN :)
 
I think he is ugly looking, reminds me of the myostatin dog pic
 
Also I do not like his posing routines doing head stands with hi beach ball stomach hanging out
 
Now this is a pose
 

hate is a strong word

Aaron Hallett


hate is a strong word

Yes I know mate, but if I am watching BB shows online when he comes on I have to turn it off LOL
 
Cannot bring myself to make one good comment about him TBH
 
Don't you think it is wrong for this guy to win shows !!
 
Maybe I am seeing different to many othersd as I am new to this

in the new york line up i failed to see one reason to tip anyone else above Kai without 2-3 cons for that bodybuilder
 
whilst not a fan of his physique, you cant deny he is hands down better than a good percentage of the competing pro's these days.
 
 

I think that kai did deserve the win in my opinion . I'm not a great fan of his physique either, but on this occaision he did enough to win.
 
 I was impressed with Lionel Beyeke's placing as he was an amateur 3 years ago and i remember him watching him win the amateur mr. universe in southport in '08 . Great physique .

Aaron Hallett


in the new york line up i failed to see one reason to tip anyone else above Kai without 2-3 cons for that bodybuilder

whilst not a fan of his physique, you cant deny he is hands down better than a good percentage of the competing pro's these days.

 
Yes I agree, that why he won, judges must think that to, Infact lots have distension of the gut, but his is worse due to being thick and wide. Muscle mass is crazy buts not my cup of tea.
 
 

ever hear the phrase "don't hate the player, hate the game"?
 
Kai is rewarded for his size, newton's third law states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.... distention and loss of sharp conditioning IMO is this 'kicker' to such mass and density.
 

Is it down to the rate he's laid down new tissue rather than the quantity, or just part and parcel of holding such size?

I think kai greens back is awesome tbh, i agree front double bi looks not so great.

Aaron Hallett


ever hear the phrase "don't hate the player, hate the game"?

Kai is rewarded for his size, newton's third law states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.... distention and loss of sharp conditioning IMO is this 'kicker' to such mass and density.

Yes I like that phrase :)
 
Don't get me wrong Aaron the guy has achieved more than I ever will, so hats off to him on that department, but it is the same as football I wouldn't want to see Stoke, Birmingham or Fulham so would switch it off, same as Kai greene LOL
 
I have a few favourites BB and my main one I really like and keep watching his Videos is Lee Priest, where before I watched clips you posted and thought he was an idiot as I just heard him slate Jay, Ronnie etc in the clips (thought he may bitter about something) , but after watching his dvd reading his articles, watching him train I bloody love the guy :)

What amazes me is the fact he was Fat as you like off season but on stage tiny waist and a body of art ( I sound like I have a man crush lmao )
 
 

Ak_88


Is it down to the rate he's laid down new tissue rather than the quantity, or just part and parcel of holding such size?

 
he has increased in size at a high exponential rate, year on year adding size from 2007 to 2010 IMO. To do things at that speed you need to eat like there's no tomorrow with the additions of AAS/peptides this will lead to a blow out of the midsection
 
2007

 
2010

Nice size changes, I need to eat more, I have bulked 15kg and stayed leanish, I get bloated and I hate it maybe I need to change my ways on that to ensure I am not wasting my time TBH
 
this is a body haha
 

He is stepping things up to the next level and looks truly freaky.
 
You have chosen a very poor picture there and he doesn't look great I admit.
 
IB has posted pictures where you see him against others, and there is no contest. The others were going for 2nd place.
 
Roelly looks like a small boy next to the big boys, same story again.
 
Rodney was outmassed and out-conditioned. Pictures show it all. Front and rear- no contest. 
Farrah has a different approach, one of those is very high carbs and lower protien.

Hallett laddie: you know I knew Kai was with Farrah - but what I am referring to is the distinctive look Oscar's athletes have.
 
Many bodybuilders have had it over the years, from Coleman, to James, even Cutler started to get it - and under Rambod its come back under contol - Farrah can do the same - but he needs to be thinking 2012 for Kai to have pulled that midsection back to a semblance of normal bodybuilder midsection and then have his freakish mass.
 
And I love the mass monsters, but when a physique has a glaring fault that overpowers it then IMO you should not win - I dont care if your back, side and everything else can look great - point is front double bicep is a monstrosity here; its not like they have take a picture taken at an angle with Kai breathing out or mid pose to make it look bad - like many photos are that show distended guts - its a compulsory and its horrible.

Its a tragedy for the sport, Kai is a great guy, and welcome breeze as a character - he clearly loves the sport and has a lot to give - but its bodybuilding, and that body got built badly and needs structural reworking.
 
Farrah's approach is very much individualised, and he is known for having his athletes use less supplementation, eat more food, and do less cardio - and then come in sharper and crisper on show day.
 
Personally I give the show to Ronny because of that front double on Kai!
If that had been someones first show and not Kai Greene it would havent even made the top 6.

any more pics from the rest of the show?