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caymanman

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Need advice on cycle & PCT 11 February 2012 01:33 (permalink)
Hi Guys, I came across this forum via a Google search looks great.

I am visiting the UK and I have just been given 10ml TT 300 (Tren Test Blend) & 30 x Turanastan (25mg 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone = turinabol; 20mg stanazolol = winstrol; 20mg oxandrolone = anavar)

Lab = Med Tech Solutions

I have only done 1 cycle of Dbol before this. I have been advised to take both the above at the same time; pin 1ml a week for 10 weeks. Obviously this leaves 6 weeks of just the TT300 after the tabs are done (30 days).

Any advice on the following is appreciated:

1) Is my advice sound? ie starting both at the same time
2) Is 30 x tabs enough? (I am not seeking huge gains)
3) I was not given any PCT - Do I need this? If yes, what would you suggest?

Thank you in advance

Cheers, CMM
 
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    Vibora

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    Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 11 February 2012 02:18 (permalink)
    What's the ratio of the test tren blend? 1ml a week is likely too low. A min of about 400mg test and 200mg tren a week is good going.
     
    And you have 30tabs each of tbol, winni and var?
    Again doses are too low and I wouldn't suggest stacking all of these at once.
     
    I (and prob most other posters) would recommend 10 week of test only (500mg) and you can kickstart it with either a lot more tbol or better yet get hold of some dbol as you've already had good experience with it before.
     
    And yes, as with all anabolics, PCT is recomended.
    Nolva @ 20/20/10/10 min or Clomid @ 100/100/50/50
     
    tbc
     
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      Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 11 February 2012 15:00 (permalink)
      Hi Vibora & thank you,
       
      The Test/Tren blend is 200mg/100mg
      Tabs - 30 tabs total: Each contains 25mg/20mg/20mg

      I appreciate your reply, will hold off til I get some more. Would you mind explaining the doses for PCT is that 4 weeks & doses?
       
      Cheers! 
       
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        Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 11 February 2012 15:29 (permalink)
        have ran TT300 from same lab,i ran it 1.5ml twice weekly,1ml per week aint enough
        wish i had friends that gave me presents like that pal when visiting,
        you will need nolvadex for pct,its touch and go with the tablets but if their free neck em anyway be a good kickstart atleast.
        caymanman


        Hi Guys, I came across this forum via a Google search looks great.

        I am visiting the UK and I have just been given 10ml TT 300 (Tren Test Blend) & 30 x Turanastan (25mg 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone = turinabol; 20mg stanazolol = winstrol; 20mg oxandrolone = anavar)

        Lab = Med Tech Solutions

        I have only done 1 cycle of Dbol before this. I have been advised to take both the above at the same time; pin 1ml a week for 10 weeks. Obviously this leaves 6 weeks of just the TT300 after the tabs are done (30 days).

        Any advice on the following is appreciated:

        1) Is my advice sound? ie starting both at the same time
        2) Is 30 x tabs enough? (I am not seeking huge gains)
        3) I was not given any PCT - Do I need this? If yes, what would you suggest?

        Thank you in advance

        Cheers, CMM


         
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          Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 11 February 2012 16:45 (permalink)
          Definitely need a pct as advised

          M
           
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            Vibora

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            Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 11 February 2012 18:38 (permalink)
            caymanman


            Hi Vibora & thank you,

            The Test/Tren blend is 200mg/100mg
            Tabs - 30 tabs total: Each contains 25mg/20mg/20mg

            I appreciate your reply, will hold off til I get some more. Would you mind explaining the doses for PCT is that 4 weeks & doses?

            Cheers! 

            Hi yes that's 4 weeks.
             
            So if you're going for clomid @ 100/100/50/50, that is:
            First week 100mg a day, 2nd week 100mg a day, 3rd week 50mg a day, 4th week 50mg a day.
             
            Depending on the ester of the test, you'd start this PCT 2 weeks after your last jab.
            tbc
             
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              Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 14 February 2012 01:30 (permalink)
              Hi Vibora & thank you so much for your attention. I have been travelling so was unable to reply til now.

              "What's the ratio of the test tren blend?" - 200mg Test E, 100mg Tren E.
               
              "1ml a week is likely too low. A min of about 400mg test and 200mg tren a week is good going"  - so would you suggest getting another vial & doing 1ml twice a week?
                
              "And you have 30tabs each of tbol, winni and var?" No they are just 30 tabs total, the 3 compounds all in one (25mg/20mg/20mg). Would you suggest I get another bottle (I can get it easier than DBOL - I am on an Island right now so hard to get)?
              "Nolva @ 20/20/10/10 min or Clomid @ 100/100/50/50" - Cool thanks, my source is offering me Nolva & HCG - is that a good combo?
               
              Vibora thank you so much! All the best
               
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                Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 14 February 2012 01:32 (permalink)
                Thank you Nigalwayne! Yes I have some good mates in the UK, they just want me to grow!
                I will do 2 x 1ml and get another vial then if it's to be 10 weeks, unless you suggest 5 weeks @ 2ml? (n00b sorry - i am guessing that's not enough?)

                Tabs - will do. May see if I can get more or just some DBOL
                 
                Thanks again! 
                 
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                  Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 14 February 2012 01:33 (permalink)
                  Thank you again!
                   
                  Vibora


                  caymanman


                  Hi Vibora & thank you,

                  The Test/Tren blend is 200mg/100mg
                  Tabs - 30 tabs total: Each contains 25mg/20mg/20mg

                  I appreciate your reply, will hold off til I get some more. Would you mind explaining the doses for PCT is that 4 weeks & doses?

                  Cheers! 

                  Hi yes that's 4 weeks.

                  So if you're going for clomid @ 100/100/50/50, that is:
                  First week 100mg a day, 2nd week 100mg a day, 3rd week 50mg a day, 4th week 50mg a day.

                  Depending on the ester of the test, you'd start this PCT 2 weeks after your last jab.


                   
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                    Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 16 February 2012 18:52 (permalink)
                    Hi Vibora, I think I didn't reply properly last time (see below/above) so not sure if you got the notification. I just have one more question. I am currently eating very heavy & doing the GOMAD milk diet, should I continue this for the 10 weeks or should I start a cutting diet halfway through?
                     
                    Cheers!
                     
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                      Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 16 February 2012 18:56 (permalink)
                      Hi Nigalwayne, not sure if you got my last reply but I have one last question - I am currently eating big & also doing GOMAD milk diet. Should I continue this for the 10 week cycle or eat lean the last 5 weeks? Thank you
                       
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                        Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 16 February 2012 19:15 (permalink)
                        I've seen GOMAD on the stringlifts website which is a bulking diet I believe,with the TT300 I just done a clean bulk all the way through,kept my fat intake low as possible.
                        It all depends on your aims(what's the fat content in the gallon of milk),can you not get the same amount of protein each day without the milk/fat content.
                        Your best to keep the diet as consistent as possible throughout cycle and beyond,how do you think GOMAD is going.
                        Trenbolone don't like water,that's why people look leaner/tighter when using tren,you don't get water retention from it.
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                          Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 16 February 2012 19:49 (permalink)
                          Nigalwayne


                          I've seen GOMAD on the stringlifts website which is a bulking diet I believe,with the TT300 I just done a clean bulk all the way through,kept my fat intake low as possible.
                          It all depends on your aims(what's the fat content in the gallon of milk),can you not get the same amount of protein each day without the milk/fat content.
                          Your best to keep the diet as consistent as possible throughout cycle and beyond,how do you think GOMAD is going.
                          Trenbolone don't like water,that's why people look leaner/tighter when using tren,you don't get water retention from it.


                          Thanks so much for the attention NW, muchos appreciatos.
                          I am currently drinking Whole Milk - 150cals/70 from Fat/12% fat total
                          I am 5ft 8" tall, Currently weigh 160lbs, I have been 140-150 for the last year or so. My weight can drop so easy.
                          My goal with the GOMAD (1 month) was/is to get to 170/180 then cut down, low carbs style/no milk.
                          I do 3 CrossFit sessions a week, 2 weight sessions a week, lots of Squats.
                          It's tough going for me consuming so much food & milk, but I am getting there.
                          I was thinking of keeping this up for another 2 weeks, then eating clean/replace milk with water.
                          Being honest I am confused as to how long to keep this up/and when to start my 10 week cycle.
                          Any advice truly appreciated
                          Cheers man
                          CMM
                           
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                            Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 16 February 2012 20:10 (permalink)
                            Personally I would bin the GOMAD before you start your cycle,the idea of going on the gear in the first place is because of the size/strength it can bring and with it being your first cycle you will gain fantastically well from it.
                            Buy a decent all in one protein powder(sci-max omni hardcore/reflex one stop extreme)you will get 90-100 grammes of protein,alll basics for muscle building from 2 shakes a day.
                            Aim to be eating 4-6 good balanced meals a day.
                            You'll gain more from the gear than GOMAD.
                            Have a look in the diet section for some meal plan ideas.Good luck???
                            Forgot to ask about your weight training plan,are you gonna do more days weight,drop cardio sessions so you can gain more.
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                              Re:Need advice on cycle & PCT 16 February 2012 21:02 (permalink)
                              Nigalwayne


                              Personally I would bin the GOMAD before you start your cycle,the idea of going on the gear in the first place is because of the size/strength it can bring and with it being your first cycle you will gain fantastically well from it.
                              Buy a decent all in one protein powder(sci-max omni hardcore/reflex one stop extreme)you will get 90-100 grammes of protein,alll basics for muscle building from 2 shakes a day.
                              Aim to be eating 4-6 good balanced meals a day.
                              You'll gain more from the gear than GOMAD.
                              Have a look in the diet section for some meal plan ideas.Good luck???
                              Forgot to ask about your weight training plan,are you gonna do more days weight,drop cardio sessions so you can gain more.


                              Thanks again NW, will bin the GOMAD before, makes sense. I do 2-3 shakes a day anyway so will use water instead of milk now. Meals are good, have been eating Paleo plus eggs/milk for a good while now. Lots of steaks, veggies, nuts etc.
                              Yes I am going to avoid cardio as much as poss - Just today I skipped the WOD @ Crossfit (mostly cardio) for Front Squats.
                              Really appreciated cheers!
                               
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