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Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 13:25 (permalink)
.....Judging by this , I'd say the latter !  
 
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    ..Surely someone must want them  ?    Fancy another Cu3ed ?  
 
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    Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 13:28 (permalink)
    Wow that is quite a reduction.  The thing is though Windows mobile just don't seem to do anything to market themselves.  I think they've left it too late to start competing with the likes of Apple and Android.
     
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      Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 13:32 (permalink)
      BRB making some money on this.....
       
      there 600 euros here LOL

       
       
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        Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 13:40 (permalink)
         Trouble is may be too late , my friend that alerted me got one - but now they are quoting 21 day delivery !
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          Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 14:01 (permalink)
          From someone on another website.
          Txt message just now from Argos said order cancelled due to incorrect pricing and will be getting a refund. Well it's as we expected.
           
           
          And honestly, MS have this in the bag, Windows 8 should sort them right, complete integration between PC, Laptop, Slates, Consoles and Phone?..its theirs for tha taking from this point on.    
           
          Nokia's greatest idea was to go to WM and not just be another "nameless" Droid handset in the US market, and now they have the Lumia 900 ( just literally a bigger screen version of the 800), with quite a few looking forward to it.
          Or another way to put it, it utterly sh!ts all over Droid ICS ( which even already stole a few ideas in the looks department of WM), and im not missing my duel core powered SGS2.
           
          And please stop with the final nail in the coffin, you know better DrZ, Nokia still command 60% of world mobile phone sales.
           
          Couple of people told now its been a mistake.
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            Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 14:45 (permalink)
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            Nokia still command 60% of world mobile phone sales.


             
               Yep and the Honda Cub is the best selling motorcycle on the planet  .... 
             
                      I am actually warming to Android , I have yet to use an Android Phone that gives a stock , out of the box , good performance  - but the top specced handsets paired with a decent custom ROM do give the kind of performance that rivals the iPhone IMO 
                    I was one of the first to praise WP7  - but the reality I have found is that it's quirky as f*** ! there seems to be a stupid/confusing UI decision at every opportunity, of course you can "learn" the OS so it doesn't hinder you -  but intuitive it ain't !! 
                 And then there is the "mess" with critical updates - MS started holding carriers to ransom by their "name and shame" website for these updates. placing the onus on the Carriers to approve and push the updates -  Then the carriers got sick of that and told them to stick it (my guess)   Result - Microsot now produce the update , you are only going to get it  (remember , we are talking CRITICAL functionality updates , not  just new features etc)  if your carrier can be bothered to ask for, and test it ! 
             
             http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-closing-down-wheres-my-phone-update-page-providing-8107-update-only-to-carriers-that-request-it/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WmPowerUser+%28WM+Power+User%29
             
                 In the bag ?  Basket case more like !  
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              Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 14:52 (permalink)
              Link doesnt work dude.
               
              But telling you know, Windows will own this market, come on, full integration between devices millions of people already own. Google and Apple dont even have devices or markets shares to compete with that.
               
              Ive been getting timely updates no problems, and no one has mentioned a thing on other forums, both software and Firmware.
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                Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 16:29 (permalink)
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                Link doesnt work dude.

                But telling you know, Windows will own this market, come on, full integration between devices millions of people already own. Google and Apple dont even have devices or markets shares to compete with that.



                     Didn't we have this conversation about the Zune ?  
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                  Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 16:42 (permalink)
                  I still have and use a Zune...but that had erm..nothing to do with Nokia...and seems a lot was actually lifted in the Zune with the Metro thing.
                   
                  Ya really wanna go toe to toe and list all of Apples failures from the 90's? Or does history handily get forgtten?
                  Or can we laugh about how how $20 of every Droid phone made goes to MS?

                   
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                    Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 16:45 (permalink)
                    I see android an apple gettig bigger , windows getting smaller, Samsung do a WM phone and it was pretty horrid to use , i would buy a lumia for that price though  although i think the n95 was the last time they where really infront.  Didnt realise they still had 60% share , I dont know anyone who has a nokia phone , unless where talking company mobile that cost about £15
                     
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                      Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 16:49 (permalink)
                      Take into account Russian, Africa, the Middle east etc, they are still hugly popular, but certainly not in the Smartphone market, in terms of raw hardware output sales they are still far an away Number one, still making billions each year.
                       
                      Windows Mobile is nothing like Windows Phone, WM is effectively dead now.

                       
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                        Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 17:07 (permalink)
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                        Take into account Russian, Africa, the Middle east etc, they are still hugly popular, but certainly not in the Smartphone market, in terms of raw hardware output sales they are still far an away Number one, still making billions each year.

                        Windows Mobile is nothing like Windows Phone, WM is effectively dead now.

                         not sure which one it was but the front end looked identcal to the lumia
                         
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                          Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 19:22 (permalink)
                          Cu3ed going against Dr Z? It's like when Anakin Skywalker turned against Obi Wan Kenobi!
                           
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                            Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 21:05 (permalink)
                            LOL !
                                  ..... No ,  Cu3ed has always had some funny ideas !   
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                              Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 21:23 (permalink)
                              WM has been out how long now and they have what, 1% market share in the west?
                               
                              Good idea, far too late and incomplete vs android and ios
                               
                              nokia's billions in the bank thanks to chinese and africans with 6210s mean nothing for success in the smartphone sector.
                               
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                                Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 21:44 (permalink)
                                Umm its been out for about one year, didn't say it wasn't going to happen over night. This year will tell a lot. Funny how people right it off. People did the same with Apple, they did the same with the Xbox and 360. This "too late" notion always makes me laugh, too late for what, what's too late in the handheld to technology markets. What makes them too late?

                                 
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                                  Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 21 January 2012 21:47 (permalink)
                                  Ohh and if you're saying its incomplete, then ya just havent used one. Compared to stood its already quite ahead in many respects, and MS hqvnt even pulled the trump Skype implentation.

                                   
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                                    Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 22 January 2012 00:55 (permalink)
                                    A year and just 1% marketshare even after a big '7.5' update is not good going. That's not overnight, it's a year of marketing, development, throwing money at phone manufacturers for not much at all.
                                     
                                    I'm not writing it off as MS have enough money to bankroll it til 2100.
                                     
                                    And actually yes I have used it a fair bit as my pal has a Lumia. It's nice, has a slick and simple UI and the theme grows on you. But not for me, it is incomplete compared to android as it lacks the power user features that I want - but I accept that as a nerd, my desires from a smartphone are not a typical users, who doesn't care for raw filesystem access or administrator-level control of everything.
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                                      Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 22 January 2012 01:04 (permalink)
                                      Have any examples by what you mean about power usage? I have seen users, that call themselves power users, and really they just make a lot of work for themselves and zero productivity. Ya know the first year Droid didn't get any market share after updates. This year will be a better tell of how things can go, Ms are expected to make a big push, and the big update is Apollo.

                                       
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                                        Re:Nokia Lumia - Nokia's saviour , or final nail in the coffin ? 22 January 2012 01:07 (permalink)
                                        Android going to be the king of the smart phones surely, going to beat iphone. Dont think nokia will even get a look in. ??
                                         
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