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Nolva dosage
02 February 2012 18:54
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Silly question really but im going to be running h-drol cycle using Nolva in PCT, quick question though does it matter on types? And also the dosage of tablets (10mg or 20mg)? Will be running 20/20/10/10... Was going to get 10mgx10 tablets as seem easier to sort out however they are out of stock so wondering if cytotam tamoxifen 20mgx10 will be ok? And just assume split in half when want 10mg dose? Thanks
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Re:Nolva dosage
02 February 2012 19:20
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Now gymjim,don't wish to rain on your parade however it seems really strange to me that your buying a OTC pro hormone,but yet needing a prescription only SERM for your pct needs??? Are alarm bells not ringing,why not just buy some oral AAS.
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Re:Nolva dosage
02 February 2012 20:28
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Nigalwayne Now gymjim,don't wish to rain on your parade however it seems really strange to me that your buying a OTC pro hormone,but yet needing a prescription only SERM for your pct needs??? Are alarm bells not ringing,why not just buy some oral AAS. Because a SERM is recommended for most pro-hormones & if he doesnt have much experience of using them then it would make sense to do a cycle of something like h-drol before contemplating an AAS
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Re:Nolva dosage
02 February 2012 20:38
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I don't see your point fella,why go to see a dire straits tribute band,when the original group are still playing. Are P.H. Safer than AAS are the sides any less than AAS,I just don't see the point at all,your throwing hard earned money at a product that is trying as hard as it legally can to be AAS.And the fact they are advocating/recommending the use of a prescription only med after cycle just confirms my apprehension on the subject??? Over the counter supplements that require not over the counter protection.
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Re:Nolva dosage
02 February 2012 22:22
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Nigalwayne I don't see your point fella,why go to see a dire straits tribute band,when the original group are still playing. Are P.H. Safer than AAS are the sides any less than AAS,I just don't see the point at all,your throwing hard earned money at a product that is trying as hard as it legally can to be AAS.And the fact they are advocating/recommending the use of a prescription only med after cycle just confirms my apprehension on the subject??? Over the counter supplements that require not over the counter protection. Can easy buy serms online, and PH easy to get hold of, if I could source real i Tbol over Hdrol yer i take the tbol But back to OP question, Yes splitting the tabs would be fine
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Re:Nolva dosage
03 February 2012 00:28
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Could be a number of reasons why someone would choose to do a PH rather than an AAS. Maybe h-drol is perfect for this cycles goals, maybe wants to test the water with a relatively mild compound before trying out an AAS, maybe doesn't have a reliable source for AAS or for an AAS he would like to run at this point?? Who knows.
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Re:Nolva dosage
03 February 2012 00:34
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TJL500 Could be a number of reasons why someone would choose to do a PH rather than an AAS. Maybe h-drol is perfect for this cycles goals, maybe wants to test the water with a relatively mild compound before trying out an AAS, maybe doesn't have a reliable source for AAS or for an AAS he would like to run at this point?? Who knows. Summed it up for me, also got it right that its also my first cycle. :)
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Re:Nolva dosage
03 February 2012 10:51
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See the point being made but a consumer can buy a SERM from fairly reliable online pharmacies - the same cannot be said for AAS. PH prodicts can be bought legit over the net without risk or seizure or dud (generally anyway).
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Re:Nolva dosage
03 February 2012 13:17
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Yes its easy to source good tamox,where i get mine they don't sell steroids,and tamox is so cheap there prob less fakes around. Got a box of Genox 10mg,100 pills very cheaply.the cytotam are gtg as well.
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Re:Nolva dosage
03 February 2012 14:16
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gymjim Summed it up for me, also got it right that its also my first cycle. :) Im part way thru my 1st cycle & i know that i wouldnt want to use an AAS until ive tested the water with a few milder prohormones, mainly just to see how my body reacts to different compounds and also the fact that im more likely to trust in something i buy from a reputable company online than off someone i dont know who could be selling me anything. Plus i've only just got my head round PHs so need more knowledge etc on the AAS side as ive heard a few horror stories & there is a negative stigma surrounding them. Never say never tho............
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Re:Nolva dosage
03 February 2012 19:17
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You are mostly saying'that your testing the water' to see how the body reacts to milder compounds,however pro hormones bear little to no resemblance whatsoever in terms of performance/side effects etc against proper AAS. Also your choice of saying about reputable online pharmacy's says very little regarding your knowledge of what is actually reputable. AAS are widely available in the uk under prescription from the local GP(TRT,aids patients,pre/post operative patients,muscle wasting diseases etc are just some of the uses commonly prescribe for,I would assume that this would cover your theory of a reputable source for AAS. Also a lot of UGL labs are only in existence today because of the quality of the products that they manufacture,nearly all medicine available today is widely counterfeited(generically made) and AAS is no exception,however most users are experienced enough to have a decent/trustworthy supply/supplier as the demand for good products is greater than the desire to rip somebody off or turn a quick buck. Nobody is trying to change your mind about your choice of assistance,but your reasons for sticking to pro-hormones to me, is a little lame and a total waste of your money in terms of results/gains and educating your body. I am just surprised that a over the counter supplements is advising there customers to source a prescription only med,and also wondering why they do not/cannot offer a suitable PCT option to go with there products.
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Re:Nolva dosage
03 February 2012 20:12
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jw390898 See the point being made but a consumer can buy a SERM from fairly reliable online pharmacies - the same cannot be said for AAS. PH prodicts can be bought legit over the net without risk or seizure or dud (generally anyway). Agree with your comments JW , I can see where this guy is coming from and it does seem mad that you can buy PH on line legally in the UK but then have to buy serm from Hong Kong . But experience shows me that underground labs churn out under dosed and sometimes dangerous gear. For any one that as had to hobble around with a bad leg or spend a couple of days in bed with the sweats you will no what I am talking about. If you are going down the route of AAS get pharma grade .
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Re:Nolva dosage
03 February 2012 20:25
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gymjim Silly question really but im going to be running h-drol cycle using Nolva in PCT, quick question though does it matter on types? And also the dosage of tablets (10mg or 20mg)? Will be running 20/20/10/10... Was going to get 10mgx10 tablets as seem easier to sort out however they are out of stock so wondering if cytotam tamoxifen 20mgx10 will be ok? And just assume split in half when want 10mg dose? Thanks Sorry mate went off on a tangent , yea that's fine, just split them
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Re:Nolva dosage
04 February 2012 12:37
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Nigalwayne however pro hormones bear little to no resemblance whatsoever in terms of performance/side effects etc against proper AAS. I'd say that SD and M1T are both stronger and cheaper per mg than AAS orals having used both.
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Re:Nolva dosage
04 February 2012 19:21
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Nigalwayne Nobody is trying to change your mind about your choice of assistance,but your reasons for sticking to pro-hormones to me, is a little lame and a total waste of your money in terms of results/gains and educating your body. I may use AAS in the future but a couple of mates have had nasty experiences on them & thats put me off abit so i will wait until im more knowledgeable,but if i can make decent gains using certain PHs then a will prob just stick to those for the near future.
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Re:Nolva dosage
04 February 2012 19:47
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Or just take 20 the whole time, nolva is a real mild drug in terms of sides (like no sides at all) so don't worry about it. TJL500 - Most injectable aas is pharmaceutical grade so would have been tested and manafactured to a higher level than a pro hormone. What kind of bad things happened to your friends??
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Re:Nolva dosage
05 February 2012 01:35
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One came out in real bad acne & boils over his chest, back & the back of his arms, has really bad scars all over him from it. Another did Oxymetholone last year & aint had a proper hard-on since.
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Re:Nolva dosage
05 February 2012 01:59
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**** thats bad m8, I've only done hdrol and test e, got no sides other than heart palps. edit - did do arimidex on and clomid and nolva pct and hcg before pct. So got to use all the pct stuff
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Re:Nolva dosage
06 February 2012 02:36
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Don't worry 10 or 20, if you need it just split it.
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