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2012/02/16 01:20:18 (permalink)

Not counting cals

Anybody got a system where you dont count cals with goal to keep as much muscle and lose body fat say over a 12 week period? Would be interested to her peoples thoughts on this, do you need to count cals or are there other options??
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    Re:Not counting cals 2012/02/16 09:05:14 (permalink)
    I mentioned this in a earlier post of someone's truth,we could all post up our diets etc,but at 28days this month and 6 meals a day plus shakes,I'm to lazy and it would take forever to type.
    It's all about the choices we make at meal times,do we go for food that has a good biological value/rating or do we choose rubbish to eat(very simplistic)I know,but I feel its all about the choice.
    Obviously the use of scales/mirror comes in handy as a indicator,but basically am I losing weight(add carbs)am I gaining/maintaining weight(diet choices are fine).
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    Re:Not counting cals 2012/02/16 17:46:05 (permalink)
    I dont count cals and my cuts going ok so far.......................I used the DP keto diet a while back, so for this cut i,ve stuck to the 6 meals a day principle , changed a few of the food choicesand added some carbs around my workouts, kind of a TKD, hitting the cardio and just monitoring my weight and checking in with the mirror regulary.

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    Re:Not counting cals 2012/02/16 18:24:41 (permalink)
    I guess completely cutting out carbs (keto) would be one way, you'd have to really mess up a keto diet to not lose any fat at all as you're limited the amount of foods you can eat considerably.
     
    Other than that I guess working by measurements such as handfulls of carbs etc.
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    Re:Not counting cals 2012/02/17 10:17:49 (permalink)
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    I guess completely cutting out carbs (keto) would be one way, you'd have to really mess up a keto diet to not lose any fat at all as you're limited the amount of foods you can eat considerably.

     
    Try most low-carb forums. People slathering butter over everything and wondering why they're not losing weight. A lot of them actually believe the answer to not losing weight is to eat more fat!
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    Re:Not counting cals 2012/02/17 12:40:17 (permalink)
    Here is the system I would have you use to achieve those goals Truth:
     
    1. Eat every 2-3 hours.
    2. Base each meal on lean protein, healthy fat, and fruit/vegetables.
    3. Eat non-fruit/veg carbs only during/after workouts (protein/carb shakes) and in the first meal after your workouts (starches).
    4. Break the above rules 10% of the time.
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    Re:Not counting cals 2012/02/17 14:38:21 (permalink)
    Hi mate...I am " cutting " at the moment. I train BJJ and thai but i`m also just trying to lean up abit...
     
    I started dieting new years day...just cut alot of the comfort foods and crap ...Monday to Satuurday I stick to
     
    Oats
    brown rice
    loads of veg
    chicken
    salmon
    steak
    eggs
    loads of fruits
    low fat natural yogurt
    protein powers, pro pep, pro mr, pro whey-CNP
    Udos choice.
     
    Pretty much all I eat monday-saturday- no idea on cals- prob 2000 ish but I never count cals and wouldn`t bother.  The results have been great. Looks like i`ll be dropping a weight class aswell for my next BJJ tourny :-)
     
    Keep in mind I am not a bodybuilder and I don`t train like one, most my training is circuit based, gymnast rings, kettlebells...I do only one heavy weight sessions per week although I did bodybuilding from 14 until 20 so i`ve always managed to keep my shape from that without having to do alot of heavy weight training.
     
     
    Good luck mate
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    Re:Not counting cals 2012/02/17 23:30:54 (permalink)
    youngmuscle86

    Hi mate...I am " cutting " at the moment. I train BJJ and thai but i`m also just trying to lean up abit...

    I started dieting new years day...just cut alot of the comfort foods and crap ...Monday to Satuurday I stick to

    Oats
    brown rice
    loads of veg
    chicken
    salmon
    steak
    eggs
    loads of fruits
    low fat natural yogurt
    protein powers, pro pep, pro mr, pro whey-CNP
    Udos choice.

    Pretty much all I eat monday-saturday- no idea on cals- prob 2000 ish but I never count cals and wouldn`t bother.  The results have been great. Looks like i`ll be dropping a weight class aswell for my next BJJ tourny :-)

    Keep in mind I am not a bodybuilder and I don`t train like one, most my training is circuit based, gymnast rings, kettlebells...I do only one heavy weight sessions per week although I did bodybuilding from 14 until 20 so i`ve always managed to keep my shape from that without having to do alot of heavy weight training.


    Good luck mate

     
    Cheers youngmuscle and good luck to you..
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    Here is the system I would have you use to achieve those goals Truth:

    1. Eat every 2-3 hours.
    2. Base each meal on lean protein, healthy fat, and fruit/vegetables.
    3. Eat non-fruit/veg carbs only during/after workouts (protein/carb shakes) and in the first meal after your workouts (starches).
    4. Break the above rules 10% of the time.


     
    Makes sense to me, this post. Eat only protein and fat meals on none training days, do the same on training days but have carbs with breakfast and around training... (If doing cardio on none training days would this then become a training day? as I count training days as weight training days) I've only been trying to lose bf for 4 weeks out of a 3 month goal, already fed up with it. Need to have a good talk to myself and re-evaluate my goals and reasons for doing them, just fed up with being so clinical with all the eating and weighing. lol 

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    Re:Not counting cals 2012/02/19 19:39:28 (permalink)
    Truth, if you post up a meal plan along the lines outlined above, I would be more than happy to look over it for you. 
     
    With regards to cardio, this would depend on the type of cardio you are doing, the duration, and the time of day you are doing it as to my recommendations.
     
    Also, with this approach, I would immediately say to you that you can stop worrying about weighing food amounts. The success of this type of eating is predicated on making good food choices, as opposed to amounts. Just make sure you are getting your daily protein amount in, spread over the 6-7 times a day you eat, and add to each of those meals a serving of fats (say, a handful of nuts, a tbsp of natural peanut butter) and your fruits and/or veg, and it'll all start to take care of itself.
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