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OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 10/11 MT THREAD

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makaveli1971 1996

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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:00 (permalink)
Xabi alonso is not world class,ok hes a good player but to say his world class is laughable.

Mascherano is a good solid holding midfield player,but again not considered world class,as he offers nothing else.

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    Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:03 (permalink)
    On a brighter note for Liverpool fans i think Torres and Gerrard are world class players.
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      Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:09 (permalink)
      mascherano is very good at what he does

      he would be 1st choice def mid in  utds, arsenals and chelseas teams
       
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        Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:14 (permalink)
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        mascherano is very good at what he does

        he would be 1st choice def mid in  utds, arsenals and chelseas teams


        I think he would have a place in the MUFC and Arsenal sides but definitely not Chelsea who have possibly the strongest midfield in Europe.
         
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          Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:17 (permalink)
          With Hargreaves and Carrick fit i would think not,Hargreaves and Carrick offer more than just a holding midfielder.
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            Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:21 (permalink)
            makaveli1971 1996


            With Hargreaves and Carrick fit i would think not,Hargreaves and Carrick offer more than just a holding midfielder.


            Sorry but that just raised a LOL.
             
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              Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:28 (permalink)
              im with teg about hargreaves and carrick who probably the most overrated players ever!

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                Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:34 (permalink)
                Overrated in what way?

                There both good balanced central midfield players,can breakdown attacks and help create attacks.

                Was also just part of a double winning team,and havent played at all this season.

                To win a double you have to have good holding midfield players.

                And there the only 2 that played this position for united last year and with great effect it appears after winning the double.
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                  Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 17:35 (permalink)
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                  With Hargreaves and Carrick fit i would think not,Hargreaves and Carrick offer more than just a holding midfielder.


                  Sorry but that just raised a LOL.


                  When your in the first eleven for the best team in  europe you have to be a pretty good player dont you think?
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                    Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 18:08 (permalink)
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                    mascherano is very good at what he does

                    he would be 1st choice def mid in  utds, arsenals and chelseas teams


                    Better than Essien? Really?
                     
                     
                     
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                      Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 18:13 (permalink)
                      makaveli- yeah u do have t be good t play in the european chamnps team, but thats not t say there arent others out there better. mascherano would def get in utds tea,.. bar essien, i think masch is one of the best in the world at the job they are supposed to do! he isnt selected for his forward play, he is seleceted for the job he does and neither carrick or hargreaves do it as well as he does.

                      integra- i dont think he was behind fabregas was he?? ur right tho he dint start. my mistake. he was ahead of xavi tho.. iniesta and senna started most games im sure!
                       
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                        Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 18:42 (permalink)
                        makaveli1971 1996


                        Integra


                        makaveli1971 1996


                        With Hargreaves and Carrick fit i would think not,Hargreaves and Carrick offer more than just a holding midfielder.


                        Sorry but that just raised a LOL.


                        When your in the first eleven for the best team in  europe you have to be a pretty good player dont you think?


                        Not really. Phil Neville was a 1st team regular around the 99 era, he wasnt exactly Mr Football.

                        Neither of the above are as good as Mascherano. The fact that Gareth Barry is ahead of both in the england setup and LOLerpool rejected the chance to sign Barry - suggests that Mascherano is better.
                         
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                          Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 18:45 (permalink)
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                          integra- i dont think he was behind fabregas was he??


                          Perhaps not, but as the tournament progressed the performances from Fabregas may have pushed him up the pecking order. He started the final and was replaced by Alonso.

                          Xavi was voted best player of Euro 2008.
                           
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                            Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 18:56 (permalink)
                            For those slagging Masc off saying he has nothing going forward, that is true as that is the job he is given. Liverpool have enough attacking midfielders as it is. The job he does, he is one of the best in the world at IMO.
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                              Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 19:26 (permalink)
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                              With Hargreaves and Carrick fit i would think not,Hargreaves and Carrick offer more than just a holding midfielder.


                              Sorry but that just raised a LOL.


                              When your in the first eleven for the best team in  europe you have to be a pretty good player dont you think?


                              Not really. Phil Neville was a 1st team regular around the 99 era, he wasnt exactly Mr Football.

                              Neither of the above are as good as Mascherano. The fact that Gareth Barry is ahead of both in the england setup and LOLerpool rejected the chance to sign Barry - suggests that Mascherano is better.


                              Neville was not a first team regular,he made 28 apps in the league that season with most coming from the bench.

                              So because Barry has had a few good england performances that suggest mascherrano is better than hargreaves and carrick?

                              Its like us now saying crouch and defoe are better than owen, as the england pecking order suggests.

                              Hargreaves when fully fit is in the team before Barry everytime.

                              Also Liverpool wanted Barry but couldnt afford the extra money that villa were suggesting.
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                                Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 19:30 (permalink)
                                i dont think hargreves will get back in to the starting 11 of england any more mate, barry has that role nicly tied up, he is better than the 2 man utd boys any way.



                                 
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                                  Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 19:32 (permalink)
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                                  i dont think hargreves will get back in to the starting 11 of england any more mate, barry has that role nicly tied up, he is better than the 2 man utd boys any way.


                                  That remains to be seen,but as he was the best player at englands last major tournament i think that suggests when fully fit he will be in the starting 11

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                                    Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 19:32 (permalink)
                                    we could afford barry.. rafa stated in the media he did not want t spend that much on a player he did not deem to be in that price range!!!
                                     
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                                      Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 19:33 (permalink)
                                      I love the way people base whether or not a player is world class on their attacking attributes.  Or how people allways say this midfielder has scored such and such so he is the best player out of the two, without taking into account what their duties to the team are or what else they bring to the table.
                                       
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                                        Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09 07 October 2008 19:33 (permalink)
                                        makaveli1971 1996


                                        neiljones


                                        i dont think hargreves will get back in to the starting 11 of england any more mate, barry has that role nicly tied up, he is better than the 2 man utd boys any way.



                                        That remains to be seen,but as he was the best player at englands last major tournament i think that suggests when fully fit he will be in the starting 11

                                        Also if Barry was that good then he wouldnt be playing for Aston villa


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