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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 18:20
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john_cappa Sonic2 I Think ones he gets 29.9% he has to make an offer for all the other shares, but i dont think the other share holders are forced into selling, not 100% sure tho If he didnt want to take over could he not just make a really **** offer? and then continue buying as he pleases piece by piece? i have no idea how these things work really, there are two large shareholders, Usmanov(25%ish) and Lady nina Smith who quit her role on the board last year and she owns around 16%, who i imagine would be keenish to sell for a good price. Find it strange tho as 100 of the shares that Stan K bought earlier this week were bought from Hill wood, intresting times on and off the pitch at the moment just hope its for the good of the club what ever the outcome is,
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 18:27
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Irish Beast Integra Right. So how do you improve on 2nd? By coming 2nd again? No, you are still 2nd best. Torres is now a world class striker - cemented by taking an active part in Spains Euro 2008 campaign. In a world XI only Torres would come close to the squad. Its one more than Manure would have in it though! And this means? Other than Torres getting the better of Vidic on a few occasions who else has? United set a record of 14 clean sheets last season....so on that basis I think VDS Vidic and Evra would be in with a shot of a world XI. Had Vidic headed the ball at OT and not let it bounce this wouldn't be a discussion, 1 or 2 mistakes does not mean a player isn't world class. Ronaldo never performed against LOLerpool...so I guess this means he cannot be considered for a world XI? LMAO. The logic behind some of the thinking is damn right stupid.....Vidic has been the most consistent defender in the the EPL in the last 3 seasons hence why he was named in each team of the year,and won barclays player of the year.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 18:28
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Well he "has" to make an offer, are shares at a set price? If so, if he meetsthat price would they have to accept? All a bit odd to me.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 18:33
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taken from the bbc Although Kroenke's precise long-term intentions remain unclear, he is not expected to buy the 71 shares that would trigger a takeover bid before next May at the earliest. This is because takeover rules state he would then have to offer the highest price at any stage over the preceding 12 months, with Kroenke paying up to £10,500 per share in a transaction with the Carr Family in May this year. Since then, £8,500 appears to have become the established price and he spent £1.7 million on Thursday on 200 shares to consolidate his position while remaining just below the 30 per cent threshold that would require a mandatory bid.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:00
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Reina, Given and Cech are all better keepers than VDS
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:05
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shane278 Reina, Given and Cech are all better keepers than VDS I'm not so sure what your basing this on....Casillas is obviously better than Reina and I don't think he is as good as VDS. And I wouldn't have Given up there, he would be behind the likes of VDS Cech Casillas Reina Buffon etc.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:07
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Do you genuinely think Van der Sar is the best keeper in the world?
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:11
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Given is worldclass without doubt, he was fantastic with a poor Newcastle side. The above three are superior to VDS, i dont expect you to agree Mak as your biased, but thats my opinion.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:11
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Given is probably the most consistent keeper in the league. Cech, Reina, VDS are all prone to gaffes. Yet Given has spent most of his career behind a sh1t defense so he's had to learn his trade far better
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:12
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Red Man Do you genuinely think Van der Sar is the best keeper in the world? It's a very tough call but he's certainly in the mix.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:14
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shane278 Given is worldclass without doubt, he was fantastic with a poor Newcastle side. The above three are superior to VDS, i dont expect you to agree Mak as your biased, but thats my opinion. Well he's in a decent side now and has a great chance to prove that,but right now he's just behind that lot imo.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:16
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If Given was playing behind Vidic and Ferdinand he would be the undisputed worlds best.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:18
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Behind him simply cos he's playing for City you mean.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 19:21
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shane278 If Given was playing behind Vidic and Ferdinand he would be the undisputed worlds best. lol thats probably why he isn't. Given is a great GK but your getting way ahead of yourself. He wouldn't have spent half his career at Newcastle if he was that good,but now he's in a decent side and has a chance to prove he is one of the worlds best.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 21:13
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Casillas and Reina were both pretty even, but at the moment Reina is the better keeper and is one of the best in the world. Cech doesn't seem to be as good as he used to be. Van Der Sar is nowhere near up there with the best in the world. Given imo has been the best keeper for a number of years, top class shot stopper, also is pretty damn unflappable, never really puts a foot wrong. Top keeper.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 22:08
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I agree beef pumper, and i actually feel if Reina was in the Madrid goal and Casillas was in the Liverpool goal then Reina would be Spains number one. Id consider Brad Friedal as good as VDS.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 22:49
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To put the cat amongst the pigeons I think VDS is amongst the best, if not the best. Reina ain't half bad too.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 23:07
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shane278 I agree beef pumper, and i actually feel if Reina was in the Madrid goal and Casillas was in the Liverpool goal then Reina would be Spains number one. Id consider Brad Friedal as good as VDS. Completely agree that if Reina was at a top Spanish Club like Madrid, he would be first choice. I know Torres is first choice, but thats because he partners Villa up front, there aren't any other top Spanish strikers at the big Spanish clubs good enough.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 23:16
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Reina may be as good as Casillas but lets be realistic he is far from the worlds best, especially as he could not be considered the best in the prem (but is one of the top 5)
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD
06 November 2009 23:44
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I think he is the best in the Premiership along with Given.
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