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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 19:12
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 19:18
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Support Arsenal and was obviously happy with the result today. To be honest, happy with the season overall and how some of the players are coming into their own such as Song. To the liverpool fans whats your opinion on Benitez, go or stay?  Some of the transfers and decisions made, even during matches has been very questionable.


I was under the view of last season being his last chance and as such he should have gone then.
He will not deliver so ive accepted a baron season until hes sacked (which we cant afford to do and he will never resign). Generally, LFC are fukced.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 19:26
If you can get an investor maybe they'll pay of his contract. Otherwise if this continues I can see the fans boycotting, especially if you don't reach the next stage of CL and don't finish in top 4. They'll have to find the money from somewhere.Who was the nutter who decided to give him the contract for the next FIVE years?

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 19:41
The yanks, when they bought the club. They came in promised a sh1t load of cash, a new stadium and full decisions to be made by the manager. At this point Benitez wasnt a bad choice tbf...

The demise of him was losing Alonso when Gareth Barry flipped him the bird and followed the cash to Man City. Even if Aqulaini is a a new super star, its too late as the league is as good as over for us. Completely down to bad management from Benitez. Losing one of your main creative players in Alonso and having Zero cover up front is down to the manager.

A lot of fans are dressing it up by blaming the lack of funds from the owners. Eventually even the hardcore fans will realise he's out of his mind. Iirc, to buy him out is over £10m and unless we had mass hatred for him. He wont resign.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 19:44
How can over 130 people be viewing this thread????
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 19:50
I heard Torres was brought off at 1-1 and Benayoun later. IMO Benayoun has been one of your best players but if rumours are true he is to be sold. Its crazy how you beat Man U one week then loose to Fulham the next.

Team morale must be at an all time low and if something is not done soon (although I don't know what!) I can see the slide becoming even worse.

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 19:57
Thats the story of Benitez mate. Last year we drew to many many sides as we couldnt kill the game off. This year we arent drawing anymore, we just lose to them instead...
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 22:28
Benitez looks like a heart attack waiting to happen at 90 mins!!

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 22:28
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 31 October 2009 22:32
I heard rafa made dodgy decisions taking torres/benayoun off when we are losing and only have 9 men, this was at 2-1 as well i think.......hes mad!

I wouldnt mind if he went i said it before ill say it again, as long as we get a good replacement.

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 02 November 2009 11:06
http://www.football365.com/john_nicholson/0,17033,8746_5669611,00.html

Good article on Rafa and his tenure i think.



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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 02 November 2009 11:46
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http://www.football365.com/john_nicholson/0,17033,8746_5669611,00.html

Good article on Rafa and his tenure i think.


Yeah, interesting article. Don't altogether agree though. I think the facts show that Rafa has spent more than Man Utd overall since he arrived whereas Wenger has run Arsenal on a relatively shoestring budget? (He certainly seems to have brought in massive amounts for ex-players for sure)
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 02 November 2009 12:30
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http://www.football365.com/john_nicholson/0,17033,8746_5669611,00.html

Good article on Rafa and his tenure i think.


Yeah, interesting article. Don't altogether agree though. I think the facts show that Rafa has spent more than Man Utd overall since he arrived



He has but the key point is that in 2004 United/arsenal had decent squads that had won lorry loads of titles/cups between them. 

If you take out the last month then no one can argue that we have not gotten closer to united since rafa took over. As it said chelsea spent 500million (not sure about this figure just taking it from the article) and six managers to overtake united and still faltered then the last few seasons. Perhaps we do need a manager change? hard to know. 

We are the same team as last season pretty much. Very difficult to understand what is going on at LFC at the moment
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 02 November 2009 16:22
Just came in here to laugh at the Liverpool fans... HAHAHA

That carling cup trophy had never looked so good huh?

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 02 November 2009 16:24
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 02 November 2009 17:30
Ledley King's suicidal defending, that absurd second goal moments after the first, Tom Huddlestone's impersonation of an oak tree in central midfield, the dearth of any attacking intent other than finding Peter Crouch's head (a tactic technically known as lump-it-up-to-Crouchy, borrowed from Steve McClaren's England) . . . these inadequacies and others played their part in their embarrassing downfall.
Ultimately, though, Spurs were undone by the secret conviction that they don't really belong on the same pitch as an Arsene Wenger side. No one should be fooled, as Harry Redknapp later pretended to be, by the stalemate that endured for 42 minutes.
Mediocre teams are often adept at stifling the creativity of a good one and Spurs adroitly rendered the game anaemic for a while

taken from tonights Evening Standard, Well put :)

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 18:39
Just watching Sky Sports News and they reckon it has just been confirmed that Fernando Torres has a hernia injury. Apparently Rafa has just confirmed at a press conference that Torres has a "sportsmans hernia" (?!) and will be unable to complete 90 mins anytime soon although it has yet to be decided whether he needs surgery or not. Gerrard also struggling and could well require surgery apparently.
 
Can it get any worse for Benitez (obviously a loss at Lyon would be a yes)
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 18:45
next year..........


Im glad this came out to shut all the people complaining about him talking off the last game. Too many armchair managers reading the back of the mirror and listen to sky sports pundits

No one knows more than the manager about how his players are playing and how and one can think Andy ****ing Gray et al. could have a ****ing clue is beyond me

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 18:54
Benitez to be gone next week with Dalglish as caretaker....
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 19:02
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Benitez to be gone next week with Dalglish as caretaker....



Well he has won a league........

Still i dont think it would be beneficial to the club
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 19:04
Probably not for this season... Its already over anyway so it cant be of any damage either.

It just earmarks a replacement needed for next year and gets rid of Benitez for good. That itself is worth the risk...
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 20:17
Surely they can't afford to get rid of him given his (fairly) new contract?
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 20:24
Im unsure on how it may work as i believe its worth 11-13m...???

The Dalglish story is the new thing about atm...
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 20:30
Yeah 10-15m in the press but a an awful lot of money for a club in the financial position they are in, I suppose if you don't win tomorrow night then that can only increase the pressure massively?
 
Not sure dalglish is the answer though mate? Would you welcome that?
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 20:37
Id welcome anyone tbh mate if it means Benitez is gone.

I said at the start of last season that he had to deliver the league to stay. He kept his job and most people then thought this season should be his last chance...

Obviously Liverpool will not win the league under Benitez, after tomorrow we only have the FA Cup to play for (Europa league my ar5e!). Time to cut the chords and get rid, at all costs. It'll be better in the long run.

In my honest opinion, we are fukced in amassive way for a fair few years now. When he does leave, who will follow player wise and who will be brought in with little money?
Never mind which manager will take over as there is a lack of serious contenders that would impress me anyway.

Not good times mate.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 20:44
Fair points there mate and tend to agree with you. Clearly need to find a serious investor as soon as possible as that increasingly looks to be the only real way forward.
 
Not good times at all and amazing how quickly it seems to have gone pear shaped after running Man Utd fairly close last season.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 20:48
Hate to thread crap here but was it you that was looking at evo's mate?

How did you get on?
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 03 November 2009 22:17
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Hate to thread crap here but was it you that was looking at evo's mate?

How did you get on?


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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 05:55
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wel seein as he has rested a shed load of first teamers integra i dont think it is too bad.. we only have 2 first teamers on the bench too so it isnt that bad at all!!!


Give over, its a crap lineup. There is no other way of looking at it.

MUFC, Arsenal and possibly Chelsea could field reserve teams which would beat the above 10 times out of 10.

Actually, even the MCFC reserve team would probably beat those fellas.


I guess you dont watch much reserve football?. Did you not see Liverpool reserves beat ManU reserves ( including Macheda, Wellbeck, Tosic, de Laet ) a few weeks back. Ngog scored the winning goal. Liverpool went down to 10 men and still won. Guess Ngog likes scoring against ManU.

Oh, and look at the news today LOL, the ManU holders beaten by Liverpool again in another competition.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/10/30/liverpool-reserves-beat-manchester-united-in-lancashire-senior-cup-100252-25048466/


Clutching at straws a little bit, looking for a ray of light amongst the doom and gloom
 
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 05:55
and a  belated but hearty LOL at Liverpool!

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 06:02
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http://www.football365.com/john_nicholson/0,17033,8746_5669611,00.html

Good article on Rafa and his tenure i think.


Yeah, interesting article. Don't altogether agree though. I think the facts show that Rafa has spent more than Man Utd overall since he arrived



He has but the key point is that in 2004 United/arsenal had decent squads that had won lorry loads of titles/cups between them. 

If you take out the last month then no one can argue that we have not gotten closer to united since rafa took over. As it said chelsea spent 500million (not sure about this figure just taking it from the article) and six managers to overtake united and still faltered then the last few seasons. Perhaps we do need a manager change? hard to know. 

We are the same team as last season pretty much. Very difficult to understand what is going on at LFC at the moment


Does the article explain how Rafa (or ROFL more like) inherited a squad which was good enough with a couple of additions to win the Champions League? After which he has spent millions - almost as much as MUFC - only to have taken them backwards?

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 10:40
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Does the article explain how Rafa (or ROFL more like) inherited a squad which was good enough with a couple of additions to win the Champions League? After which he has spent millions - almost as much as MUFC - only to have taken them backwards?



The year we won that it wasnt really down to us being spectacularly good rather the other teams playing poorly. I dont see how anyone can argue that our squad is not far better now than it was then.

He also brought us to a champions league final two years later with his own team dont forget. No small feat

We have improved significantly in the league under benetiz as far as i am concerned. A simple look at the league table over the last 7 years or so confirms it. 


This season is far from over yet (though it appears it might get worse rather than better)


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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 11:16
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 11:38
integra is a man city fan
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 12:15
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integra is a man city fan


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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 12:28
what channel is liverpool on tonight?

I heard ITV sold the rights to Comedy Central to make it more appropriate viewing.

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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 12:48
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integra is a man city fan



So why the hell is harping on about how sh1t Liverpool are doing so smugly when they've spent millions and millions and flopping around just as badly as Liverpool?
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 12:55
I think it's due the fact certain Liverpool fans thought they were good enough to win the EPL under Benitez,and claimed if Gerrard and Torres played more games this year they could win it.

TBF Benitez has wasted millions over years and not taken Liverpool forward, where as City have just started there spends and appear to be improving.

But you would have to expect so with the players they brought in over the summer.
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 13:03
I guess to a degree but for the money spent they should be higher than where they are.

Will be interesting to see if Rafa completes the season.  Right now i'd be happy with him gone but he's been amazing before so things could change...
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Re:OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE 09/10 MT THREAD - 04 November 2009 13:08
LOLerpool and their manager ROFL Benetiz!

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