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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:34
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so u are basing current team selection on a tournement 2/3 years ago?, I think if asked most people would go for barry in the def mid role for England.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:37
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makaveli1971 1996 Also if Barry was that good then he wouldnt be playing for Aston villa Please tell me who is the best English striker and where he is playing atm?.... (and no its not Rooney) That blows the Barry at Villa argument out of the water.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:37
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Red Man For those slagging Masc off saying he has nothing going forward, that is true as that is the job he is given. Liverpool have enough attacking midfielders as it is. The job he does, he is one of the best in the world at IMO. Chelsea have enough attacking midfielders,but theres times when u see Essien produce something magical going forward.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:39
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Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Also if Barry was that good then he wouldnt be playing for Aston villa Please tell me who is the best English striker and where he is playing atm?.... (and no its not Rooney) That blows the Barry at Villa argument out of the water. Sorry to dissapoint but the best england striker is Rooney.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:40
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Rafa tell his players what to do specifically, Masc does as hes told.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:41
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makaveli1971 1996 Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Also if Barry was that good then he wouldnt be playing for Aston villa Please tell me who is the best English striker and where he is playing atm?.... (and no its not Rooney) That blows the Barry at Villa argument out of the water. Sorry to dissapoint but the best england striker is Rooney. Care to go into goal to game ratio? Recent scoring history, and prove that?
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:43
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Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Also if Barry was that good then he wouldnt be playing for Aston villa Please tell me who is the best English striker and where he is playing atm?.... (and no its not Rooney) That blows the Barry at Villa argument out of the water. Sorry to dissapoint but the best england striker is Rooney. Care to go into goal to game ratio? Recent scoring history, and prove that? Rooney when fit is the first England striker on the teamsheet,that would suggest hes the best England striker. I remember Gerrard not so long ago saying Wayne is our best player,not just best striker.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:46
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He did not score in an england shirt for more or less a year.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:48
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Absolutely not, a striker that doesnt score many goals is hardly a good striker. Rooney is living of the name he built up as a kid. Hes nothing like that player anymore. Michael Owen is by far the best current English striker. Why he isnt getting picked is a different story that i asume there is an issue behind....
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:53
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Red Man Absolutely not, a striker that doesnt score many goals is hardly a good striker. Rooney is living of the name he built up as a kid. Hes nothing like that player anymore. Michael Owen is by far the best current English striker. Why he isnt getting picked is a different story that i asume there is an issue behind.... You may suggest absolutely not,but the majority of the english public and the england manager agree that wayne is our best talent,and i think its clearly obvious he is. Owen is not getting picked for the simple reason hes not playing well and is looking to be past it at the moment. But like i said in a thread a while back if Owen wants his England place back he has to get out of Newcastle.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:54
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makaveli1971 1996 Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Also if Barry was that good then he wouldnt be playing for Aston villa Please tell me who is the best English striker and where he is playing atm?.... (and no its not Rooney) That blows the Barry at Villa argument out of the water. Sorry to dissapoint but the best england striker is Rooney. Care to go into goal to game ratio? Recent scoring history, and prove that? Rooney when fit is the first England striker on the teamsheet,that would suggest hes the best England striker. ok fabio
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:56
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Red Man Hes nothing like that player anymore. I think being part of a double winning team and winning the league the yr before would suggest different mate. Rooney is a great player,he doesnt score the amount of goals we would all like him to score but hes still a great talent.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 19:58
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john_cappa makaveli1971 1996 Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Also if Barry was that good then he wouldnt be playing for Aston villa Please tell me who is the best English striker and where he is playing atm?.... (and no its not Rooney) That blows the Barry at Villa argument out of the water. Sorry to dissapoint but the best england striker is Rooney. Care to go into goal to game ratio? Recent scoring history, and prove that? Rooney when fit is the first England striker on the teamsheet,that would suggest hes the best England striker. ok fabio I dont expect Liverpool fans to agree that Rooney is Englands best talent. With the hatred you have for Everton and Man utd
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 20:01
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The majority of the English public agree that Owen should be in the starting line up as he has THE best chance of scoring.... As for best talent, Walcott may now be taking over as Rooney simply hasnt delivered at international level. Walcott bagged a hat trick didnt he?
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 20:03
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makaveli1971 1996 Red Man Hes nothing like that player anymore. I think being part of a double winning team and winning the league the yr before would suggest different mate. With some of the sh1te that are also in that team thats a silly point to make mate. A winger got your goals, not your strikers....
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 20:06
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This debate is drifting but i wont disagree that Walcotts a fine talent and has the potential to be an England great,personally i would still have Owen in the team as he has a great england goal scoring record. But it seems players are being picked for how they are performing at club level and i think we would all agree Owen is not doing it for Newcastle,but who is right now?
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 20:08
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Red Man makaveli1971 1996 Red Man Hes nothing like that player anymore. I think being part of a double winning team and winning the league the yr before would suggest different mate. With some of the sh1te that are also in that team thats a silly point to make mate. A winger got your goals, not your strikers.... Glad you agree hes a winger as i had a scouse liverpool fan inside telling me how Ronaldo is a striker lol. Theres no sh1te in uniteds team,because if there was then they wouldnt be playing for united,rooney is a class player playing for a class team. Dont know why you find that so hard to accept.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 20:10
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Iirc (and i could be wrong) Owen has scored 5 goals this season... Hes playing in a poor side so i wouldnt expect miracle anyway. Owen will score goals and should be in the England team imo. I dont know what but there is defo an underlying reason why Capello drops him. There was all that rumour about Owen only being into money now to fund his horse business. Plus the fact hes a cnut, and a horrible little tw@t to boot.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
07 October 2008 20:12
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I wont list names as its seems obvious you wont agree, every team has sh1te in it. Just because you play for Utd doesnt make you a class player.
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07 October 2008 20:15
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Red Man I wont list names as its seems obvious you wont agree, every team has sh1te in it. Just because you play for Utd doesnt make you a class player. No one is sh1te mate as they wouldnt be at such big clubs. But to list some of uniteds not so good players i would say Fletcher Neville etc... But they are hardly sh1te.
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