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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 21:53
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Walnaldinho Arsenal will cruise 3rd spot, can't believe anyone thinks Liverpool will finish above them. The Longer Torres is injured, the more likely it is Liverpool will finish outside of the top 4. They really are a one man team. Gerrard has nothing on Torres. Man Utd will still be in for a shout with the title, they will beat everyone that isn't part of the Sky Sports 4, which is enough for them. Chelsea are looking good, but they won't walk it. The African Nations won't affect them much though. Last time out they didn't drop a single point! Villa will fade away in the second half of the season as they did last year. Wouldn't like to comment on Spurs. We arent a one man team, we showed that last season, last year people were saying we are a two man team so make your minds up. Gerrard and Torres are very important players and we can get results without them. I agree that torres is more important than gerrard.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 21:57
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Nice to see mak be honest for once :D lol A back up striker is needed in JAN, does RVN not play much at all at madrid then, much you think he will cost? Was class at utd not sure how good he is now. Was utd spurs game any good, spurs were really getting at utd the first few mins i saw in gym then i was done, 2-0 i see on score centre :(
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 22:40
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You really are a one man team. You are about as threatening going forward as Birmingham are without him. The fact Everton are terrible at the moment, and they still outplayed you says it all. The fact you scored a fluke goal and Everton wasted chance after chance seems to have papered over the cracks for some of you. As for Liverpool bringing in a striker to aid the situation - where's this cash coming from all of a sudden? Someone find a shed load under their matress they had forgotten about? Arsenal will easily finish 3rd. RVP may be a big miss for them, but they will beat all the teams they should do with ease more often than not. Unlike Liverpool, who will drop points left, right and centre.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 22:47
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We didnt struggle without torres last season. If torres isnt playing we are less threatening yes, but we have shown we can play without him, sometimes without him we struggle yes but sometimes without him we are fine, so its kind of 50/50 so i hope now you can see saying we are a one man team is a bold comment which doesnt stick firmly.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 22:48
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Icemansoldier so i hope now you can see saying we are a one man team is a bold comment which doesnt stick firmly. lol the way you said that is funny
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 22:54
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Just read it again lol haha........back me up here cappa or do you think we are a one man team as well?
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 22:55
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Well it does stick firmly. Without him you aren't a top four side. It really is as simple as that. Quite obviously you can field 11 players without him and you will pick up results. But if he is missing for much longer you will be dropping a lot more points... a lot more. The 'last season' comment doesn't really stick either. Last season you had Alonso playing instead of Lucas, you still had Robbie Keane, who may have been out of sorts but would still offer more than N'Gog does. You now have much worse replacements for your missing star players, so even finding someone to 'do a job' for a few weeks is proving difficult and makes the importance of those players even greater. Anyway, I'm bored of the Liverpool debates now - the end of the season will either prove me right or wrong.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:00
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Icemansoldier Just read it again lol haha........back me up here cappa or do you think we are a one man team as well? I have given up arguing on here against people who only read the tabloids and spout about rotation, 260 million spent, one man team **** etc etc We are a one man team.......... i mean reina, agger, macherano, gerrard wouldnt walk into the first team of any side in any country..........
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:05
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Whether we are a top 4 side without him is debateable atm with our form we are screwed and need him, but on last seasons form we would of finished top 4 without him, everton came 5th with 63 points while torres played 24 games last season, started 20 of them out of 38 games in a season ok, we finished 2nd, we finished 14 points ahead of arsenal and they were fourth, we finished with 86 points, compared to evertons 63 points and they were fifth so pretty safe to say we would of finished fourth last season without torres at all, i cant say for sure but its seems logical based on form.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:06
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john_cappa Icemansoldier Just read it again lol haha........back me up here cappa or do you think we are a one man team as well? I have given up arguing on here against people who only read the tabloids and spout about rotation, 260 million spent, one man team **** etc etc We are a one man team.......... i mean reina, agger, macherano, gerrard wouldnt walk into the first team of any side in any country.......... This is adequate back up lol
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:06
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Walnaldinho The 'last season' comment doesn't really stick either. Last season you had Alonso playing instead of Lucas, you still had Robbie Keane, who may have been out of sorts but would still offer more than N'Gog does. Really? maybe have a check of how many goals robbie scored in in 28 games? oh yeah it was 7 ngog has 5 goals in 11 games so far this season. No one has noticed just how well ngog has been developing this season. Torres being out has been a blessing for that lad. Given him a chance to establish himself Walnaldinho Anyway, I'm bored of the Liverpool debates now - the end of the season will either prove me right or wrong. amen to that! bored of them also Gonna be a long long season!
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:06
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john_cappa We are a one man team.......... i mean reina, agger, macherano, gerrard wouldnt walk into the first team of any side in any country.......... You're right. They are doing a fantastic job so far this season... Agger wouldn't walk into anyones team. He would be wheeled in, in a wheel chair.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:09
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Ngog is doing well for us, so many slag him, but ive backed him 100%, 5 goals in 11 games is good, hes getting better as the season rolls on. Not sure if agger would walk into any team, but he is a very good defender.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:09
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Walnaldinho john_cappa We are a one man team.......... i mean reina, agger, macherano, gerrard wouldnt walk into the first team of any side in any country.......... You're right. They are doing a fantastic job so far this season... agger has been off injured for a long time. Fair point but the rest would. Not that long ago that real wanted him though. Surely Reinas heroics at the weekend demonstrate that we are not a one man team?
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:10
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Masc is a fcukin machine
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:11
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may aswell wave goodbye to mach! he is spain bound!
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:12
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Reina is argubly the best keeper in the league for sure.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:13
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Masc will be a big loss, he puts in so much work, he is actually a machine lol Hopefully he doesnt go :(
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:14
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Fantastic result for Villa, into the semi's now. Great to see Young, Milner, Downing and Gabby all interchanging. Downing is gonna be a decent player for us, really pleased to see him start and finish the game.
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Re:PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD 08/09
01 December 2009 23:16
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Reina will save you from the odd loss, he is a decent keeper. But he isn't going to win you games. The whole one man team argument is aimed at how much of a miss and how unthreatening Liverpool really are without Torres. He carries a disproportionate amount of Liverpools threat going forward, so when he is missing is horribly evident. I rate Agger. Just a shame he has chocolate legs.
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