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Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 01:46 (permalink)
Well here we go I'm going to bore the hell out of you with my life story now lol
 
I'm a 23 year old female that really want to prove to myself I can been a confident person that feels good on the inside and the out.  I have battled with my weight for may many years and I have never been able to find a happy medium. About three years ago and at 15 stone I some how found the guts to phone one of my local gyms and book myself in for an appointment and make an effort to change and put in some hard work.  Was feeling pretty good till I got there and have the mick taken out of me by a group of people and the worst thing is that one of them was the instructor! Destroyed what little confidence I had left and have avoided gyms have had a bad opinion of them ever since. 
 
Six weeks ago I started taking T3, clen and eph which has help me a lot as have lost two stone and have gained so much more confidence but its now time to do the hard work without the help of the sweeties so to speak and have an appointment to join a gym tomorrow and I'm crapping myself to be honest.  
 
Am I being a prat and worrying about nothing or are gum just a bitchy environment that I'm going ot have to get use to? 
 
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    Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 06:55 (permalink)
    Just get down there and show them , if they laugh then laugh back , do this for urself , once there u might meet sum1 in ur position , speak to them and train with each other, my dad always says the old wheel turns , they won't always be laughing and remember nobody is perfect we all have problems , be commited and keep ur goals in mind through out
    it's all calories if u burn more than u eat then ul loose weight ,
    Good luck and start a journal i started 2 weeks ago
     
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      Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 07:10 (permalink)
      Well done on the weight loss, it's simple try a different gym. You could also take along a friend for moral support, but most proper trainers will never take the piss.
       
      I spotted your post regards the T3 and eph and although I know very little about T3 I am a little concerned. I am sure I read that T3 taken without proper ramping, and overdone can wreck your metabolism. Two stone in 6 weeks is a lot, I'm sure you feel much better without the two stone but that sort of loss over such a short period is usually unsustainable, or could end up with muscle loss not to mention loose skin.
       
      I'd get some proper advice regards the T3, but take advantage of what you have done so far, and get training. As above most serious trainers (instructors or not) will be supportive whatever your goals.
       
      Oh and keep posting here!
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        Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 09:12 (permalink)
        Hi, welcome to Muscletalk!
         
        what dose of T3, clen and eph are you taking, and how long have you been taking it ? Then i can give you specific advice on where to go with those.  T3 is very effective at producing a much faster metabolism because its a thyroid hormone rather than a slimulant or something that works to stimulate the metabolic rate (such as the clen)  theres no real long term risk of thyroid damage or supression, at least there is no evidence in the medical world of such.  However, the problem with using thyroid medications are thet they arent muscle sparing, and will eat away at what muscle you do have, so potentially in the long term controlling weight and keeping it at its new lower level could be more difficult....
         
        however,  needs must, and the weight loss has now given you the confidence to get into a gym.  so with some weight training along with CV work, you can now control that muscle loss, and as you come off the t3 maybe build a small amount of muscle, which will help improve your shape, and mean that you naturally burn more calories making further weight loss and weight control easier in the future. 
         
        Im sorry to hear that you had a bad experience in the gym.  usually, when people are lacking in self confidence they will read into things more than their really was.  So a group of people in the corner having a laugh about something will become a group of people laughing at them (when in reality they werent).  But i dont know the circumstances of the experience you had so if it was directed at you thats very poor.  all i can say is that its certainly not the norm, and i have trained in alot of different gyms over the years.
         
        What type of gym was it you tried last time?  bigh chain, small independant, etc etc?
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          Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 09:46 (permalink)
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          Hi, welcome to Muscletalk!

          what dose of T3, clen and eph are you taking, and how long have you been taking it ? Then i can give you specific advice on where to go with those.  T3 is very effective at producing a much faster metabolism because its a thyroid hormone rather than a slimulant or something that works to stimulate the metabolic rate (such as the clen)  theres no real long term risk of thyroid damage or supression, at least there is no evidence in the medical world of such.  However, the problem with using thyroid medications are thet they arent muscle sparing, and will eat away at what muscle you do have, so potentially in the long term controlling weight and keeping it at its new lower level could be more difficult....

          however,  needs must, and the weight loss has now given you the confidence to get into a gym.  so with some weight training along with CV work, you can now control that muscle loss, and as you come off the t3 maybe build a small amount of muscle, which will help improve your shape, and mean that you naturally burn more calories making further weight loss and weight control easier in the future. 

          Im sorry to hear that you had a bad experience in the gym.  usually, when people are lacking in self confidence they will read into things more than their really was.  So a group of people in the corner having a laugh about something will become a group of people laughing at them (when in reality they werent).  But i dont know the circumstances of the experience you had so if it was directed at you thats very poor.  all i can say is that its certainly not the norm, and i have trained in alot of different gyms over the years.

          What type of gym was it you tried last time?  bigh chain, small independant, etc etc?

          Newbie has a thread here where she mentions her T3 and clen doses;
          http://www.muscletalk.co....04&mpage=1#4693245
           
          My comments are based on what little I know on the stuff, so probably got a few things wrong.
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            Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 11:08 (permalink)
            wow, jesus, thats way too high a dose of T3.  wish i had seen that original thread to have been able to give you some decent advice.
             
            T3 dose should be taken in a morning, not spread throughout the day, no wonder your not sleeping on a night!!
             
            75mcg of t3 per day MAX, and even then im really loth to recommend that to women, because of the muscle loss.  (when guys use T3 they take 'other' drugs to prevent muscle loss)
             
            Newbie, please please please, stop what your doing, take a step back and realise that your not doing this a good way.  I can fully understand why you have, and understand the desperation that people can feel when they are unhappy and want to loose weight, so please dont think im telling you off, im just concerned for you.
             
            Whats done is done, and the big positive in all this is that your now in a position where you feel able to go to the gym again.  drop the T3 dose down (3 pills a day, first thing in a morning)  and get in the gym, with a mixture of weights and cardio. 
             
            The girls here, or myself can give you great advise on what to do in the gym if your dont want to use the gym staff, though a few sessions with a PT could be good for you to help get your confidence up.  Where are you from, ill see if theres anyone close by that i could recommend?
             
            Also, lets get your diet sorted!  post up what you eat on a daily basis, and we can help get that spot on for you!
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              Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 11:12 (permalink)
              gingernut

              My comments are based on what little I know on the stuff, so probably got a few things wrong.

               
              Not at all! you were right to say what you did.  Overall after using the T3 its likely that daily calorie requirements will be lower because of muscle loss, so while thyroid function probably wont be impared for more than a week or two coming off, the overall effect on the person will be largely the same!
               
              I would never recommend T3 use to women, unless they were holding alot of muscle and much more advanced.  But even then im not a fan of thyroid hormones, i wouldnt use them myself, and i wouldnt recommend them to guys for the most part either.
               
              But, whats done is done, whats important now is moving forwards and making the most of how things are!
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                Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 11:13 (permalink)
                You absolutely deserve to be in that gym, you want to be and you have every right to be. 
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                  Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 15:33 (permalink)
                  Hi everyone, thank for the advice is really helpful.
                   
                  I completely changed what I was eating when stated the T3 ect. I been on a high protein no carb diet. Just been eating grilled chicken or fish with lots of different steamed veg. I have also been drinking Impact blend whey is that ok? 
                   
                  Signed up to the gym today and got my first session day on the 20th.  Eeek lol they all seemed really nice which was good and as for the other gym it was a inderpendent one I mentioned it today to the one I just join and apparently quite a few girls have had the same treatment. 
                   
                  I have found someone who trains real hard and he going to show me the ropes as I know he know what he is doing and knows what's best and trust him. 
                   
                   
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                    Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 18:32 (permalink)
                    Very surprised it was an independent, independent gyms are usually the best for both attitude and standard of advice/support.
                     
                    Glad you have found somewhere though.
                    Regards diet some people find zero carb does work for them but many dislike them because they can leave you feeling tired, and ill at times. Also leaves you with little scope for tweaking to lose more weight. I'd be tempted to add in some carbs, especially now you will be training regularly.
                     
                    Might be an idea to consult a nutritionist, or at least enlist the assistance of a trainer to get you onto the right track and make sure you are doing things right and maintain your excellent progress.
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                      Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 18 January 2012 20:27 (permalink)
                      those idiots that laughed at you have got their own problems -  grrrr it makes me angry just hearing about them!!!!   get in that gym girl, let them sort their own mess out.  GRRRR!!!
                       
                      good luck xx
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                        Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 19 January 2012 01:33 (permalink)
                        That's great advice thank you  Feeling a lot more positive now. And I'm from South Somerset Daz.
                         
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                          Re:Ok I really need some convincing not to bottle it. 19 January 2012 11:04 (permalink)
                          WTF!!??!! That's a dreadful experinece to have gone thru!
                          WoW! Daz awesome replies, I feel educated, thank you!
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