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2012/03/30 11:08:32 (permalink)

PCT or Blast and cruise

Will have finished my cycle of Test 1000mg and Tri-tren 450mg in a few more weeks.
 
HCG was run 500iu x2 week throughout the cycle
 
Do I blast and cruise or do I PCT?
 
Now please don't just quote time on = PCT + time off. I want real experioenced peoples replies. We all know that hardly anyone follows this!
 
Blast would be for 8 weeks at 250mg/week maybe 50mg proviron as well
 
PCT if I went down this route would be 4 week PCT followed by 8 weeks off
 
The Person who recommends the blast and cruise competes and is in amazing shape!!!
 
The 2nd guy who recommended PCT and 8 weeks off after is is in good shape but not quite the same standard
 
I will be running 5iu GH (Kigtropin) 5 on 2 off. This is why I'm more inclineed to go the PCT route. Even tempted to use insulin with the growth as well (Used during cycle already)
 
Now i know you can't go off other people physiques etc as everyone is different, but it does make you think should i go wioth the blast and cruise.
 
If I find the link I'll let you have it but there was a statement by a pro that states its not the huge amounts we take but the amount of time we stay on that makes us huge i.e blast and cruise. We all know that arnie etc hardly came off and would do a bridge. I want to take bodybuilding to the highest level i can take it
 
 
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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/03/30 15:12:28 (permalink)
    if your gona stay on anyway, why cruise? why not run a small bridge and start another cycle after a few weeks?

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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/03/30 17:40:57 (permalink)
    I'm always going to be running cycles until the day I die so that's why I was thinking about just cruising on 250mg week and use HCG 500 throughout the blast just to keep testicle size.

    The other way is obviously come off for 12weeks inc PCT and run FB and insulin then get back on a cycle

    From now on I'm going to continuously run growth
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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/03/30 21:54:25 (permalink)
    Depends on your long term goals m8, I've been b&c for a while now and tbh a bit bored with keeping up with all the pinning. I'm competing later in the year so thought it pointless coming off.

    Cruise has been 250 every 10 days for 5 weeks not including the 2 weeks after my last big jab.

    Have I kept growing... A bit I think, I won't know till I'm cut down but I've put 10k of weight in 14 months based on bf levels and weight.



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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/03/30 22:13:19 (permalink)
    Best of luck with the competition minger and thanks for your experience of b&c

    So for your blast you would leave 2 weeks for the long Esther to clear then cruise for 5 weeks on 250mg every 10 days. When would you go on your blast again? 10 days after last cruise injection?

    Just out of interest how long were your blasts?

    What is your mood and libido like? Do you think you would do the same again? Are you taking growth?
    post edited by carter82 - 2012/03/30 22:16:00
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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/03/30 23:01:34 (permalink)
    Normal cycles mate 10 to 12 weeks first couple of blasts were tren cause i love the stuff, last blast was deca then starting my cruise when you would normally start pct.

    Pre comp cycle looks complicated so looking forward to a 6 week cruise to get things sorted.

    When I b&c again I'll add orals to the mix dbl worked nice last course I'll defo hit that again. I'll rotate between tren and something else, maybe eq or even hgh and sln I think but that will start next year I want to see how badly I do at the comp first lol

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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/03/30 23:03:33 (permalink)
    FYI objective of the cruise is to let the steroids clear down and the levels to drop as low as you can before hitting it hard again.

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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/03/31 17:40:00 (permalink)
    I'd say run PCT.
    Blast and cruise does give you the opportunity to get as big as you possibly can, hence why top BB's run this protocol as they are either trying to grow after a show then straight into a diet for a qualifier then continue for the final if they qualify and so and so on, However...you really need to know where the finish line is otherwise it will just go on and on, and the longer you stay on the harder and more complex recovery will be, you need a solid exit strategy before you start IMO.
    But its your body, no one really gives a ......
    So think long and hard and dont just jump in to it
    "Whats the point in coming off" is not a valid reason to stay on IMO, ask your self "what is the point in staying ON" risk to benefit.
    Cruise would be 250mg every 2/3 weeks IMO, 250mg is still well above the bodys normal ranges, so the body is still under stress of some degree and would not be a rest so to speak.
    A cruise IMO would be instead of going through ZERO test levels after discontinuing AAS, you are replacing bodys natural production ie TRT dose, testosterone replacement therapy, so the cruise is a rest without being catabolic and going through Recovery, thats my view and the subject will always be subjective to people interpretation of what a blast and cruise should be.
    I finished Blast and cruise December and i will never do it again, its not for me Physically or mentally.
     
    All the best whatever you decide
     
    Be safe
     
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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/04/01 08:46:13 (permalink)
    Thanks for the replies. If I b&c I would never come off and would be on try for life. You've got to have that on your mind if you do blast and cruise. I would still use HCG throughout the cycle at 500iu 2x week. Also, I've been reading a method where you blast HCG on the beginning of the cruise at HCG everyday at 500iu for 7-10 days to keep testicle size.
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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/04/01 08:49:17 (permalink)
    Well said enigma

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    Re:PCT or Blast and cruise 2012/04/01 12:36:26 (permalink)
    your never going to come OFF?!
    how old are you?
    do you have kids?
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