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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 26 October 2009 23:26 (permalink)
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    Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 27 October 2009 13:23 (permalink)
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    Strength is oddly high - cannot account for it myself.  Shoulder presses has suffered a little but if anything its down to endurance and tiredness (due to low test) rather than anything in terms of strength.

    Pct is:
    Weeks 1-3 500iu HGC EOD for 20 day in total (eg 5000iu over 20 days)
    Weeks 1-8 1mg Adex EOD
    Weeks 1-4 Nolva (using standard protocol extend for a little longer)
    Weeks 1-4 Clomid (using standard protocol extend for a little longer)

    May run nolva again for another 3 weeks as i've been on for about 18 months with a couple of 8ish week breaks.  Off til end of January.  I know I wouldnt be recovered, but the main thing is to return some normality to the body for 4-5 months.



    looks like a good solid pct, i will be doing something similiar once i have competed next year.
     
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    Glad my misses has a coil tho - with the HGC and clomid i've ran I could fill a swimming pool in a couple of days LOL

     
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      Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 27 October 2009 14:11 (permalink)
      Sorry
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        Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 28 October 2009 20:58 (permalink)
        Back & Biceps

        DB Row
        Warm Up          45k x 12, 55k x 12, 
        Working            70k x 10, 70k x 10, 70k x 8, 70k x 8, 70k x 6 - 10 deep breath's between sets - working to perhaps consider Doggcrapp principles...

        Machine Row
        285lb x 10, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 8


        Standing V Bar Pulldown (warm up for below)
        80lb x 10, 120lb x 10, 150lb x 10, 170lb x 8

        Seated V Bar Pulldown
        200lb x 10, 200lb x 10, 200lb x 10, 200lb x 10


        Wide Grip Pulldown
        220lb x 10, 220lb x 8, 220lb x 10, 220lb x 10


        Supersetted by...
        Concentration Curls
        35lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 35lb x 10 - really pumped arms after this


        Machine Curl
        150lb x 12, 150lb x 12, 180lb x 12, 180lb x 8, 180lb x 6 - minimal rest between sets - going for pump over weight


        Good workout.  Felt quite sick/green after it tho LOL
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          Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 29 October 2009 20:40 (permalink)
          Legs

          Leg Press
          Warm Up          260k x 20, 260k x 20
          Working            360k x 20, 360k x 20, 360k x 18, 360k x 12, 360k x 12, 360k x 10, 360k  x 9 - 10 deep breaths between sets

          Hack Squats (with BB)
          100k x 10, 100k x 10, 100k x 10, 100k x 10

          Machine Ham Curl
          270lb x 15, 270lb x 15, 270lb x 15, 270lb x 15

          Supersetted by...
          Leg Extensions
          240lb x 15, 240lb x 15, 240lb x 15, 240lb x 15

          Calf Raises
          200kg x 10, 200kg x 10 - stopped at this point due to legs not wanting to do this exercise after leg pressing!

          DB Lunges
          70lb x 20, 70lb x 20

          Legs feel dead after the leg pressing today.  Gonna do hack squat machine early next week in a similar way to leg press and then some 20 rep squats

          Loving it!
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            Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 31 October 2009 16:50 (permalink)
            Chest, Shoulders & Triceps

            Smith Incline Bench
            60k x 10, 100k x 10, 120k x 10, 130k x 10

            then with 10 breaths rest between
            130k x 10, 130k x 3, 130k x 2, 130k x 2, 130k x 1


            Skull Crushers
            45k x 10, 47.5k x 10, 45k x 10 45k x 10 - 47k was just too heavy to keep elbows in so lowered back

            OH Standing Shoulder Press Machine
            120k x 10, 120k x 8, 120k x 8, 120k x 8


            Front DB Raises (each arm)
            30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10


            Supersetted by...
            Bent Over Raises  (each arm)
            30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10


            Supersetted by...
            Machine Chest Press
            195lb x 10, 225lb x 10, 225lb x 10, 225lb x 10

            Reverse Grip Cable Pulldown
            80lb x 10, 90lb x 10, 90lb x 10, 90lb x 10
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              Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 02 November 2009 21:05 (permalink)
              Back & Biceps

              DB Row
              55k x 10, 55k x 10
              70k x 10, 70k x 10, 70k x 7, 70k x 8

              Machine Row
              285lb x 10, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 8, 285lb x 8


              Wide Grip Pulldown
              220lb x 8, 220lb x 8, 220lb x 8, 220lb x 8


              Supersetted with...
              Concentration Curl (each arm)
              35lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 35lb x 10



              DB Incline Curls
              45lb x 10, 45lb x 10, 45lb x 10, 45lb x 10


              Supersetted by...

              DB Shrugs
              85lb x 10, 85lb x 8, 85lb x 7, 85lb x 6


              Machine Curls
              170lb x 10, 180lb x 10, 170lb x 10, 170lb x 10

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                Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 02 November 2009 21:18 (permalink)
                you do the db rows one side at a time or both together?
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                  Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 02 November 2009 21:27 (permalink)
                  One at a time - can you imagine me doing 140kg at the same time?!  LOL
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                    Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 02 November 2009 21:42 (permalink)
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                    One at a time - can you imagine me doing 140kg at the same time?!  LOL


                    70kg is pretty good going!  does the grip hold out for the sets? 
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                      Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 02 November 2009 21:53 (permalink)
                      Grip is now the easy part - its the pull up of the DB to the chest without it rotating forward or back thats harder.  Stops me going up to 80kg as I cannot control the rotation and it hurts the wrists.

                      But yeah, i'm well chuffed with 70kg - its funny 55kg feels stupidly light these days.   Such a change from 6 months back
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                        Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 03 November 2009 22:40 (permalink)
                        Changed routine to EOD now just about (where life allows) as being off AAS and recovering means I'm a lot more tired and want to ensure that I get enough rest and allow the body to recouperate.  For now, its maintaining what I have.

                        In late Jan, it will be adding to what i've got
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                          Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 03 November 2009 23:50 (permalink)
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                          Changed routine to EOD now just about (where life allows) as being off AAS and recovering means I'm a lot more tired and want to ensure that I get enough rest and allow the body to recouperate.  For now, its maintaining what I have.

                          In late Jan, it will be adding to what i've got


                          i changed to having more rest days after my comp, and the last month has been alot better for the extra recovery time, be interesting to see how you find it!  seems weird at first not goint to the gym so much!
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                            Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 04 November 2009 00:03 (permalink)
                            It is weird and a little depressing but with low test and as I recover I simply don't have the energy to power thro 5 workouts in 7 days without feeling utterly burnt out. 

                            3 in 7 is much more do-able and gives me time to recover and the strength to stay high - certainly incline smith benching 120k + 20kg bar weight (I call it that as its meant to float but when it has weight on it sticks!) when off cycle i'm enjoying greatly.

                            Just received 5 x 300iu's of long acting slin.  Not sure whether to kick them off in my recovery period or just save it all for my bulk in Jan?

                            Jans planned cycle is:

                            Weeks 1-12          2g Sust
                            Weeks 1-10          .5g Deca or Tren (may leave these out - dunno if i'd see anything by using them?)
                            Weeks 1-4            50mg Oxy
                            Weeks 1-12          20iu Slin ED (weekends off)
                            Weeks 1-12          8iu HGH EOD Mon - Fri (weekends off)
                            Weeks 1-12          1mg Adex EOD

                            What do you reckon?
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                              Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 04 November 2009 00:10 (permalink)
                              looks good mate, definately put the deca in at 500mg per week. save the tren for pre comp.

                              id personally use the growth pwo, but it works pretty much however its run or so it seems!

                              if your off now, and not losing too much size, then i would leave the slin untill you start bulking again when you also have the aas there.  if your having time off clean to rest the body, then IMO it should be off everything for maximum health benefit

                              youll do really well off that mate.  Im looking forward to seeing you in comp shape, i think you will look very good indeed.
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                                Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 04 November 2009 00:21 (permalink)
                                Cheers matey - looking to speak to James about doing my bulking and cutting diets for me so I may be in a better shape than ever!

                                Or not! LOL
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                                  Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 04 November 2009 17:38 (permalink)
                                  na im sure you will mate, james does a great service, will be well worth it
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                                    Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 04 November 2009 21:32 (permalink)
                                    Chest & Triceps

                                    Flat BB Bench
                                    100k x 10, 130k x 10, 140k x 10, 140k x 8, 140k x 6, 140k x 6

                                    EzBar Skullcrusher
                                    45k x 10, 45k x 10, 45k x 10, 45k x 7

                                    BW Dips
                                    x 12, x 7

                                    Incline DB Flye
                                    45lb x 10, 45lb x 10, 45lb x 10, 45lb x 10

                                    Supersetted by...
                                    Rope Pulldowns
                                    80lb x 10, 70lb x 8, 70lb x 8, 70lb x 8

                                    Shoulders being done on their own tm/Saturday.
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                                      Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 05 November 2009 08:56 (permalink)
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                                      It is weird and a little depressing but with low test and as I recover I simply don't have the energy to power thro 5 workouts in 7 days without feeling utterly burnt out. 

                                      3 in 7 is much more do-able and gives me time to recover and the strength to stay high - certainly incline smith benching 120k + 20kg bar weight (I call it that as its meant to float but when it has weight on it sticks!) when off cycle i'm enjoying greatly.

                                      Just received 5 x 300iu's of long acting slin.  Not sure whether to kick them off in my recovery period or just save it all for my bulk in Jan?

                                      Jans planned cycle is:

                                      Weeks 1-12          2g Sust
                                      Weeks 1-10          .5g Deca or Tren (may leave these out - dunno if i'd see anything by using them?)
                                      Weeks 1-4            50mg Oxy
                                      Weeks 1-12          20iu Slin ED (weekends off)
                                      Weeks 1-12          8iu HGH EOD Mon - Fri (weekends off)
                                      Weeks 1-12          1mg Adex EOD

                                      What do you reckon?


                                      Cycle looks good mate.
                                      Have you ran Test as high as 2g before though??
                                      With the slow acting slin you can run it everyday with no problems.
                                      I'm finished up lantus this week and will have ran it everyday for 5wks.
                                       
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                                        Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary 05 November 2009 09:15 (permalink)
                                        Ran 1.5g as the highest before mate with 500mg deca.  Not a huge difference in amounts really but I want to make the most of the meds being used.  I like slin so can't wait to use. Would you recommend building up to 20iu per day?
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