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Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 12 May 2009 20:47 (permalink)
Did back day today - OMG that has got to be the hardest training session ever.  Utterly worn out - no carbs is hard work!
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    Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 09:01 (permalink)
    Nice pics.  Glad to see you've got the all clear to train.  Good luck!
     
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      Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 09:29 (permalink)
      Thanks for the comments.

      Jebus - and I thought I was tired yesterday evening.  Had 60mg eph and 200mg caffeine this morning.  Hunger pangs are dying off now with the above eph and caffeine – which is good.  Feel a bit dense as well, without the carbs I’m at times finding it hard to think – my head swims a bit.  Got a feeling that this next 5-6 days before I’m fully into keto are gonna be hard work.   I think this weeks gym sessions are going to be 20% odd down on strength levels – feel weak less than an hour into the work day!
       
      Going to have to be careful with my shoulder but I’m ice packing it daily to help with any swelling, taking dicloflex whenever needed (which also curbs my hunger, a useful side effect!) and generally lifting a little less.
       
      1 day down, 69 to go (and if I extend my cut, up to 83 days to go LOL
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        Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 11:21 (permalink)
        Isn't that usually the case on the first few days of keto diet though, as your body adjusts to the lack of carbs - i.e. tiredness, lethargy etc.

        I have thought to try it myself sometime, but I just don't think I can cope without the carbs



         
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          Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 11:46 (permalink)
          Welshy tried carb cycling once and after a couple of days she went nuts
           
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            Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 12:06 (permalink)
            Are you keeping the carbs at a constant level or cycling them papa (sorry if you've mentioned this before, my pc is playing up and won't go to previous pages)
             
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              Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 12:24 (permalink)
              Same food every day pretty much for 70 days (at least).  Only carbs I get are from peanut butter and the nuts I eat.  No carb cycling at all.  Less than 30g a day to keep me in Keto.
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                Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 12:25 (permalink)
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                Isn't that usually the case on the first few days of keto diet though, as your body adjusts to the lack of carbs - i.e. tiredness, lethargy etc.

                I have thought to try it myself sometime, but I just don't think I can cope without the carbs


                Hope so - 70 days of this will be tough.  Do-able, but very tough!
                 
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                  Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 12:26 (permalink)
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                  Welshy tried carb cycling once and after a couple of days she went nuts


                  She nuts normally, isn't she?
                   
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                    Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 14:12 (permalink)
                    No wonder you're light headed.  Are you not planning a re-feed at all?
                     
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                      Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 15:20 (permalink)
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                      No wonder you're light headed.  Are you not planning a re-feed at all?


                      Due on 24/5 mate.  Its a keto diet, no VLCD so cheat meal once every 14 days.
                       
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                        Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 15:35 (permalink)
                        Get ya.  No doubt in the next week or so you're body will adjust though and normal feelings will come back.  I found it took me just over 2 weeks to switch over to keto mode.  Before that I was like the walking dead!
                         
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                          Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 16:06 (permalink)
                          This arvo i'm actually ok on a mix of eph and caffiene.  Seems to have taken the edge off my hunger and a feel more alive and less mushy in the head
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                            Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 16:40 (permalink)
                            After a 5-7 days you'll feel fine again, just stick at it.  Have you seen Dave Palumbo's Q&A on RX muscle, loads of info on keto dieting?
                             
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                              Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 21:23 (permalink)
                              Anvil:  no I haven't but I certainly will take a butchers.

                              Found todays work out much more managble than yesterdays.  Not sure whether its just me getting used to having no carbs in me, whether the psuedo physcological effects of being back on AAS or whether yesterdays back day is just a difficult day to do full stop but it felt much more managable.

                              Head is feeling a lot less mushy and a lot more with it.  Hunger is dropping away and altho I look forward to the meals now, already it doesn't feel like i'm dying with hunger - yesterday was horrible.  Today, compartively fine.

                              Still day 2 of 70 (maybe 84!) now almost complete.  Enjoying it.  Long may it continue!
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                                Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 21:28 (permalink)
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                                This arvo i'm actually ok on a mix of eph and caffiene.  Seems to have taken the edge off my hunger and a feel more alive and less mushy in the head


                                Are you taking the eph in the afternooon? Do you find it affects your sleep patterns?

                                 
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                                  Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 21:33 (permalink)
                                  I find i'm fine unless I take it after about 6pm.
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                                    Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 21:42 (permalink)
                                    Careful with the diclofenac if you ain't got much food in your stomach fella. Good luck with the cut.
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                                      Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 21:53 (permalink)
                                      Aye - didn't use it today - but thanks for the advice
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                                        Re:Papa's XXX Shots - Ready for the cut! 13 May 2009 22:08 (permalink)
                                        Papa Lazarou


                                        Desmo


                                        Welshy tried carb cycling once and after a couple of days she went nuts


                                        She nuts normally, isn't she?


                                        Cheek of it !

                                        Good to see you back to it Papa
                                         
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