Product Log: Super Halo (Halodrol) - PCT started 5/11/09 - AFTER PICS PAGE 9

As title states really, I'm running a product log of Black china labs Super Halo (haladrol) and 11-test.

I will run the Halo @ 75mg ED for 6 weeks, and will be "pulsing" the 11-test throughout.
PCT will be Nolvadex, and will be using Milk Thistle, Hawthorne Berry EFA's vits etc throughout cycle.

I previously ran BCL's Straight Drol (Superdrol) which I had fantastic results with.
I just have a bit of BF that I would like to drop from my massive bulk on SD!

I will be starting the cycle Monday 26th October.
I wil be eating at maintence calories throughout, which is around 3k calories per day.

I will be training 4 - 5 days per week, with the usual split of Shoulders/Abs, Legs, Chest/Tri's, Back/Bi's.
I might do some extra chest work on a saturday, and I will be doing some light cardio sessions 2 - 3 times per week, just a moderate 15 min run after weights.

I am 6'1", 14st 10 lbs and approx 15 % BF.

Target is body recomp, I aim to put on 4 - 5 lbs of muscle and lose 2 - 3% BF, I'm sure this is do-able!!

I will post up pics an measurements before and after.

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Before pics uploaded.
 
Front and back.
 
Currently weighing in at 14.10 stone. Need to take some measurements as well so I can make an accurate evaluation at the end of the cycle.

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Started the cycle today.

2 x 25mg Hdrol first thing this morning, with 2 x 11 test tabs.
Will be taking 1 more Hdrol around Tea time, and will take another 4 11 test tabs throughout the day.

I will be pulsing the 11-Test throughout the cycle using the following method:

3 days on 1 day off -

Day 1 - 6 tabs

Day 2 - 2 tabs

Day 3  - 4 tabs

I have trained already today, which was shoulders.
I must admit, I was out for a friends Bday on Saturday night, and was really not feeling it at the gym today lol, I will be good throughout the cycle and saturday was one last blow out!

Today I did the following.

Military Press -   Set 1 = 65kg for 6 reps
                            Set 2 = 65kg for 5 reps

Seated machine press - Set 1 = 75kg E/S for 5 reps
                                        Set 2 = 75kg E/S for 6 reps

DB Front Raise - Set 1 = 14kg db's for 14 reps
                            Set 2 = 14kg db's for 14 reps

Seated Side Raises - Set 1 = 12kg db's for 12 reps
                                   Set 2 = 12kg db's for 12 reps

Cable Rear Delts - Set 1 = 12.5 kg E/S = 14 reps
                               Set 2 = 12.5kg E/S = 14 reps

DB Shrugs - Set 1 = 46kg Db's = 12 reps
                    Set 2 = 46kg Db's = 12 reps

I would normally through some upright rows in at the end, but I felt really cr*p and decided to leave it here.

Lifts weren't as good as usual, but was to be expected after a  heavy weekend.

Diet will consist of around 6 meals per day, low carbs on a night, approx 3000 cals per day.

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Good luck mate, hope you get what you're looking for.

I was thinking of a h-drol assisted cut next year so will be keeping a close eye.

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Good luck mate, will be following this one, should be another cracker of a journal!

Let us know how you get on with your sleeping problems.

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Day 2

Don't know if anyone read my other thread about the probs I had last night? but basically, had very bad anxiety issues, and insomnia. Had no sleep at all :-(

Also had a nose bleed this morning and felt like I was gonna have a panick attack. I was sh*tting myself TBH as I've never suffered with anxiety like this before and my heart was racing like a b*tch.

Had to call in sick at work, and also not gonna get to gym tonight now, so will have just go tomorrow instead.

I did have some sleep probs with my SD cycke towrds the end of the cycle, but only when I upped the dosage to 30mg.

I'm not the best sleeper to be honest, but never had anxiety issues like I have last night/this morning.

Terrible start to this cycle, but gott stick with it, and fingers crossed things will get better.

I'm now taking propanolol (beta blocker) and zlopicone on a night for my sleep.
Not ideal taking all these things at once, but I can't carry on like this, and I need to sleep (obviously), and go to work, gym etc so I feel this is worth it.

The only possible positive thing that I can pull out from being up all night, is that I had a protein shake at 3:30am (now that is looking the bright side!!!).

Diet will be clean again today, with maintenence cals (approx 3000) spread through around 6 meals.

Oh, forgot to add, I will knock down the dosage of 11-test as well. Atleast until I start to chilll and sleep better.

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Cheers Iceman... thanks for following.

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I have spoken to the guys at Black China Labs, and it seems that it is the 11-test that has affected me in this way.

It is extremely androgenic adrenal, where as most other compounds out there are mainly anabolic, so the sudden rise in testosterone and androgen levels have caused the insomnia/anxiety.

I have it on good authority that once my body becomes used to it, these symptoms will pass.

Really appreciate the help from BCL on this as well, they are always there if I have any problems or questions with their products which is extremely re-assuring for me especially after my recent worries lol.

So.... onwards and upwards!!!

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Bad news about the sleep & anxiety, goodluck with the cycle however. Subbed!

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Nice of them to admit the test could be the problem, seem a good company. Hopefully the problems die off quick mate.

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Nice of them to admit the test could be the problem, seem a good company. Hopefully the problems die off quick mate.

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N.O 13 and Faux Real - Thanks for comments, and I'm glad your on board!

Iceman - Yeah there a good company man, I sent an Email stressing this morning when I panicking!! haha

Feeling MILES better now, had a couple of hours sleep, gonna get myself an early night tonight  (with the help of a sleeping tablet!) and all being well will be back at work and at the gym tomorrow :-)

I still havn't taken measurements... Need a damn tape measure though! Once I have one I'll post up stats.

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Glad youve got some sleep mate, you will be as strong as an ox 2mra ;) and raring to go!

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Thanks Ice :-D Hopefully so!

Day 3

well, I think today is the "Calm after the storm".
Had an excellent nights sleep, albeit with the help of a sleeping tablet, but TBH I'd rather that than a sh*tty natural sleep lol.

Took 2 hdrol this morning with 1 11-test, and will take 1 more hdrol and 11-test before training.

Diet is:

Breakfast -2 wholemeal toast with peanut butter and jam.
1 40g whey protein shake with skimmed milk

Mid Morning - 1 milk protein shake 40g, made with half water and half skimmed milk.
1 apple .

Lunch - 2 chicken and lettuice sandwiches on wholemeal bread with a little light mayo.
1 shape yoghurt

Mid afternoon (pre training) - 1 whey protein shake 40g, with dextrose and taurine added.
1 Apple

PWO - 1 whey protein shake 40g, with added dextrose and L-glut made with water.

Tea - Chicken with new potatoes, brockley, cauliflour and green beens, bit of gravy too :-)

Before Bed - Milk protein shake 40g half milk half water, added L-Glut and some peanut butter or a splash of olive oil.

This will be my diet throughout (exepct a sat night when i normally go out for tea, or get a take away etc).

Main meal on a night will change most days, but will be something similar - fish, veg etc etc...

Cals will equate to approx 3000 per day with a around a 40/40/20 split.

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Glad to hear you got a good nights sleep.  Hope the anxiety clears up once you get used to the test.

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Training was ok tonight, not the best, but OK.

Legs

Squats - 160kg x 8, 160kg 6

Stiff Legged Deads - 130kg x 10, 140kg x 8

Leg Press - 270kg x 12, 270kg x 12

Calf Raise - Seated - 270kg x 16, 290 x 12

Calf Raise Standing (smith machine) - 100kg x 10, 100kg x 10

Leg Extension - 94kg (full stack) x 16, 94kg x 15

Had to knock squats down a litttle from last week, was lifting 170kg, but as I have not been well the last couple of days, didn't want to push it.

Was gonna have  a run afterwards but TBH I really didnt feel like it, will plan on doing so tomorrow.

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Strong squatting mate! How does your deadlift/bench compare?

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Fook me mate you lift shi* loads. Squats and leg press is especially impressive.

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NO13 - Thanks man. Deadlift is currently 200kg for reps, I'm not flat barbell benching ATM, as using DB's, but last time I was, was lifting between 90 - 100kg for reps, so bench is lagging a bit in comparison, but something I've always struggled with unfortunately!

Iceman - Yeah squats are going well mate, as I say, lifts where up on this recently on squats, press and SLDL, but didnt wanna push it tonight after my probs earlier in the week!

Hoping for some modest strength increases throughout the cycle!

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Yeah good job mate, your leg press is monsterous tbh LOL

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Day 4

Last night i thought I would try and sleep naturally, didn't seem to be happening, so had half of a sleeping tablet at about 11:30, still took a while for me to sleep though, but certainly bareable.

I don't wanna rely on sleeping tablets and I'm hoping to be off by the weekend.

Diet is very much the same, apart from I had a chicken curry for lunch which was what they serve up at the canteen on a Thurs at work, so thought "what the hell" :-)

Tonight will be chest and tri's, I am training on my own again as my mate is being a girl and having a week off the gym.

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If you cant sleep down the tablets to hell mate, you need you rest. And you know whats causing the problem so even if you have to use them a while you will be able to come off them easiely enough, ime.

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Yeah good point man. Rest is soo important as well, I think that fact stresses me out even more when I can't sleep, knowing that i need to rest to grow! lol

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Yeah. Have a good session tonight man.

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Tonight was chest and Tri's

Incline BB Bench - Set 1 = 80kg - 7 reps / Set 2 = 80kg - 6 reps

Flat DB press - Set 1 = 36kg DB's - 10 reps / Set 2 = 38kg DB's - 7 reps

Decline Press - Set 1 = 90kg - 7 reps /  Set 2 = 90kg 6 reps

Cable Flies - Set 1 = 15kg E/S - 15 reps / Set 2 = 17.5kg E/S - 10 reps

Cable Push down (tri's) - Set 1 = 42kg - 10 reps / Set 2 = 42kg - 10 reps

Tricep Dips - Body weight only - Set 1 = 16 reps / set 2 = 17 reps

All in all a good session, was pretty tired, but felt a bit stronger than I thought I would be. Maybe the Haladrol???

The DB press looks pretty weak I know! but I will explain... I joined David Lloyed about 3 months ago, from fitness first. At fitness first I could Flat press the 45kg Dbs, but at Lloyds they obviously dont include the weight of the BB on the overall DB weight... so where it says 38kg, it is atleast 42kg whole weight.
It's not good on the ego, even though I know it is heavier, you still cant help lfocusing on the weight on the DB.

Right, there's my excuse out of the way ha ha.

I'm gonna have tomorrow night off the gym, and do my back on Saturday as  I have trained 2 nights on the trot now, and like to have a day off in between.

Weight is still the same at 14.11 stone.... I will take measurements over the weekend, and post up.

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Fcuk that mate dont get dis-hearted by the weights your shifting, their really impressive i wish i could lift them :D Nice lifts, great work.

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Ah thanks man, appreciate it

Had a pretty good nights sleep last night, I had half a sleeping tablet, as I'm trying to ween my self off them!

I'm having 2 11-test (200mg) today, one this morning and one this aft, along with my 75mg Hdrol obviously.

I will gradually increase the dosage of the "pulsing" as initailly intended, but I need to slowly get this into my system because ofthe anxiety/insomnia that it seemed to be causing.

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I've been thinking, and I have decided to change the way that I am pulsing the 11 test.

I train 4 times per week, and I have enough tabs to pulse - on training days only - at 6 caps per day (600mg).

I just feel that I will have more pronounced results running at this dose.

This will be starting as of tomorrow.

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really

your right time does fly....good luck

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Thanks man.
 
Do you have any plans for another cycle?

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Gonna start a Test-E cycle at Christmass for 10 weeks

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AWG - Nice one dude, should get some good gains with that.

No gym tonight for me tonight, trained 2 consequetive nights so will go in the morning to do back.

Man, this 11-test really sends me on one! not really in a bad way though.. just ilke as if I've done a big line of coke lol.. suppose will be good when I feel like that at the gym, and it does die down after a couple of hours.

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Day 5

Still having to make use of the sleeping tabs.
It seems as soon as I take my 11-test, my heart starts beating fast, which causes me to get more anxiosu etc.... I am hoping that this stops after regular use, so will keep it up, and see how things go.
I am taking the beta blockers to combat this, but i'd preferably like to be not taking any of the addition POM's.... cant be good for me.

Today I am training Back and Bi's, hoping for a little more in stregth/reps, so let's see.

This stuff makes me very hungry too, esp on a night, I am laid in bed at like 12 am and my stomach is rumbling! That is after a big tea, and a pre bedtime protein shake. Might start adding some oats to it.

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Back and Bi's

Wide Grip Pull ups: Set 1 - Body Weight only = 12 reps
                                 Set 2 - + 10kg = 8 reps
                                 Set 3 - + 15kg = 6 reps

Deadlifts: Set 1 - 200kg = 5 reps / Set 2 - 200kg = 6 reps

BB Rows: Set 1 - 90kg = 10 reps / 100kg = 8 reps

Low Row: Set 1 - 43.5kg = 10 reps / Set 2 - 43.5kg = 10 reps

Standing DB arm curls: Set 1 - 26kg DB's = 6 reps / Set 2 - 26kg DB's = 6 reps

Cable E-Z bar curls: Set 1 - 42kg = 10 reps / Set 2 - 42kg = 10 reps

All in all a pretty good workout, bit dis-appointed that I didn't manage another rep or 2 on Deadlifts, but they just wipe me out! Should maybe try doing them first?

Anyway, only thing I felt today was being a little more energetic on the first exercise (pull ups), could have kept going for ages on the first set, but it was more of a warm up set so didn't wanna fatigue too quickly.

Think I already look a little fuller (might be a placebo), could be glycogen storage though, infact I would say that is the most likely reason.

Im pleased that I've got another 5 weeks to go, as when I used SD, 3 weeks FLEW by!. Just hope my sleep sorts itself out soon!

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Damn your strong mate, i cant even pull up my own BW, i will consider myself strong when i can for decent reps, great work mate.

BIG 200 dead, that a PB mate?

Strong overall impressive lifts skull :D

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Update

After constant problems with anxiety/insomnia with what I'm sure is being caused by the 11-oxo, I have decided to cease use of it.

I really wanted to carry on with this, and I have stuck with it for a week and my body just doesn't seem to getting used to it, to my frustration!

I guess I am just overly sensitive to androstenedione (11-oxo/test), although I think I am in a minority as I have searched on google for similar experiences, and cant seem to find much at all?

I know it is great product for fat loss/ re-comping, but it is at too much of a cost for me personally with the palpitations, lack of sleep, which is making me paranoid that I am gonna end up having (god forbid!) a heart attack.
I'm sure it would not come to this, but you can see my thought process here with the symptoms I am having, especially having never suffered with anxiety before.

So, it is on with the cycle, but just Hdrol at 75mg per day for the rest of the cycle, and hopefully these symptoms which I had will now subside (fingers crossed).

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Damn your strong mate, i cant even pull up my own BW, i will consider myself strong when i can for decent reps, great work mate.

BIG 200 dead, that a PB mate?

Strong overall impressive lifts skull :D

Thanks man
 
When I first started out doing pull ups, i could hardly lift just body weight either, but sticking at em and adding weight has made just doing body weight pulls a breeze! try and get your self dipping belt, you'll soon notice a difference mate!
 
The DL's have been at 200 since doing the SD cycle!
Pb was 210 for 3 reps, but I like to get atleast 5 out on deads, so have been stuck at 200 for a bit now, will hopefully improve on that through this cycle though!

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