Protecting from gyno whilst on Oxys?

Oxy's are estrogenic themselves (having an A-ring similar to estradiol) so they do not convert to estrogen, they actually are like an estrogen already so a SERM is the only protection for gyno from Oxy's, my choice would be Nolvadex for this job mate.
The concern for me on that cycle for someone who is gyno prone is that dosing Nolva to protect against gyno from Oxy's may increase the risk of gyno from the progestins (Deca).
I would tend to keep Androl to only use it in cycles that result in elevted estrogen levels and not with progestins as the protection for one works against the protection for the other mate.
 
Bigfella.

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TooBiG


You got to be so so unlucky lol a tab a day with that little test and deca. Why would you take a tab a day and so little test and deca anyhow pointless cycle. Not heard many people have issues like yours before using a massive amount of letro and so so little test/deca

Previous Deca usage had already established some gyno development alongside more moderate AI usage.

The above cycle with 1 tab letro ED was another attempt at using Deca but to keep any further gyno development at bay....it did not work. Also tried increasing DHT to control the progesterone (winny, masteron, proviron etc) with no luck. 

Also tried using NPP with the logic being faster out would mean sides easier to cope with but the result was the same, worsening of gyno symptoms. 

I just do not get on with progesterone related gear. I may try again in the future if i have my gyno and glands removed but until that day any progesterone based gear is to be avoided for me. 

Regards such light usage, I am not as experienced as yourself and I do feel getting the best out of light usage is the best way to keep sides at bay. 

I am glad my usage has been moderate when considering my gyno issues. 

Using the minimum you feel you need = safe and sensible usage IMO. 

 
How do you get on with tren mate? Your one of the unlucky one's
 
 

TooBiG


How do you get on with tren mate? Your one of the unlucky one's

 
Not tried it yet mate. 
 
I was under the impression tren was a drug you progress to using. 
 
I would be very interested in your thoughts on Tren for the individual sensitive to progesterone?
 
Cheers
 

TooBig - 1G of tren per week! Wow! What kind of benefits do you find you get personally from that much tren? Added far loss? Huge strength gains? I'm just interested to know as next time I run tren, I'll be doing so at s higher dose (Although not as high a gram for now lol).

BigFella - I'm glad you chipped in mate :-)
I think my decision to leave the oxys out of this cycle is a good one then.
I already have gyno (droop on the nipple) which I cant get rid of without operating. I'm not overly fussed about it though, as when I cut up u can hardly see it, but as the bodyfat creeps up the nip looks worse.
I'm hoping letro will keep me covered on this one.

By the way, cycle looks like this

Test enth 1G, EQ 600mg, Deca 400mg, Dbol 60mg per day.

Will be going bank on hgh too very soon which should help.

Monster Cycle.

Ha it is a bit! Never used EQ or Deca so looking forward to seeing how I react.

60mg mmmmmm nice bra mate

Haha hopefully not buddy! Don't get me wrong, I like breasts, just not on me ;-)
I'm taking 1 letro E3D which should keep my nipples from getting any bigger?