Protecting from gyno whilst on Oxys?

This will be my next cycle.

850mg test, 600mg EQ, 400mg Deca.

I want to kick start with around 40mgdbol and 100mg Oxys.

I am gyno prone so always use letro on cycle, but I have read that letro may not cover me due to Oxys mysterious of causing gyno (as it does not aromatize), and the nolva should be used.

From your experience, what would u recommend please? Want to make sure I'm covered.

Bloody hell sounds like a nightmare cycle to me if you are gyno prone matey
 
The orals would be a no-no for me and You would be fine using Letro it's the best AI for lowering estrogen which will help with bloat and the start of any gyno signs. You shouldn't use nolva with deca anyway dude.
 
How do you get on with deca? You could play safe and just go with test and more eq

i don't think you will find an answer mate, even medical professionals don't really have an understanding of how oxy's cause gyno.
 
bigfella may be able to help, he's clued up on all things gyno related.
 
personally (if i was gyno prone) i'd just frontload the injectables and leave the orals (or maybe just run the dbols)
 
you are covered using letro i suppose, but that kind of takes away the point of the rapid weight gain the kickstart will offer won't it??

gyno is estrogen related lower the correct amount and you'll have have any issues with any roids.

OP...How much letro do you use on cycle mate?
 
@ TooBig...I have gyno  lumps and ran letro 2.5mg ed for about 5 weeks, no improvement at all! But nolva seems to be reducing the pain!

why use eq and deca together ??

Toobig - this will be my first time on deca. Normally use tren.
I reckon letro will cover me for everything but the only one im wary of is the Oxys.
quite fancied orals to be honest, and as I've not used Oxys before, quite fancied the dbol/oxy stack.

Wannagetbigmatt - Yeah I thought as much, I think its gonna be a case of risking it. If gyno flares up I can always stop the Oxys.

Brett - i take 1 tab every 3 days.

Sustanon - why would I not want to use deca and EQ? They stack great with each other.
The old myth about deca and EQ doing the same thing is just that, a myth... In guessing that was gonna be your reply?

TooBiG


gyno is estrogen related lower the correct amount and you'll have have any issues with any roids.

 
Not in my experience mate. 
 
Any progesterone based steroids cause bad flare ups in my gyno regardless of the amount of AI's i run. 
 
I can take 500 test / 500EQ EW with no estrogen control but 250 test / 250 deca EW gives me gyno, even on 1 tab of letro a day. (I also started the letro a couple of weeks prior to ensure some form of stable blood levels)
 
In my experience progesterone causes me all my gyno issues, regardless of estro suppression. 
 
 

''Skullcrusher''  yes that would be my reply.. but again i would never stack them 2 compounds together. but thats just me 
 
if u love tren why switch to deca ?? u will retain alot water from using deca.. u can not compare tren and deca if thats what u are doing.
 
ond for the oxys i love them. have been using them at 100mg ed. but i feel tired and loss of apetite if i do so high dosages. so i recomed to do 50mg ed. and split the tab in 1/2 insted of taking 50mg at one time.
 
sorry i not try to high jack ur thread now. but what u guys thinking about letro ?? from my personal experience do it take time beffore it works. and it can take up to 3 weeks to get stedy blood levels from using it. if i ever use it again. will i start using it 1-2 weeks beffore i go on gear...

kinglean

TooBiG


gyno is estrogen related lower the correct amount and you'll have have any issues with any roids.

Not in my experience mate. 

Any progesterone based steroids cause bad flare ups in my gyno regardless of the amount of AI's i run. 

I can take 500 test / 500EQ EW with no estrogen control but 250 test / 250 deca EW gives me gyno, even on 1 tab of letro a day. (I also started the letro a couple of weeks prior to ensure some form of stable blood levels)

In my experience progesterone causes me all my gyno issues, regardless of estro suppression. 

 
You got to be so so unlucky lol a tab a day with that little test and deca. Why would you take a tab a day and so little test and deca anyhow pointless cycle. Not heard many people have issues like yours before using a massive amount of letro and so so little test/deca

Kinglean - You're worrying me mate lol. I always use letro too, but Im just gona try the deca out and see how I get on.
 
Sustanon - Deca and and EQ are supposed to work very well together. The myth of them doing same job came from Dan Duchane's steroid handbook due to the chemical structure being extremely similar, but as we all know, the slightest difference can give it a completely different effect.
 
One reason im also using it though is for appetite.
 
BTW - I alwyas use letro, and nothing else ive tried works anywhere near as well for me.
I just start taking it when my cycle starts.

After some more thought, Ive decided to leave oxys out for now and up the dbol 60mg per day. May increase it but I'll see how it effects my appetite.
 
I will be using letro at either half a tab E3D or 1 tab E3D... I will try and use as less as possibe although I think the latter will be safe cover for me.

I really don't think you'll have any issues mate when running letro.
 
I always use letro too but i'm using 3.5-4 grams of gear a week and only using half a tab 2-3 times a week and dry to the bone

4g of gear per week? LOL
Thats a bit much aint it?

What is your cycle Toobig?

Live animals and raw flesh! LOL

1000mg test 1000mg eq 800mg mast 800mg tren

Nice cycle. Thats a fair few jabs mate!
How do you divide your jabs up?

Next time I run tren I'm gonna bump it up a bit too.
Do u get back pumps off tren? I get them really bad after a while.

Why the masteron though? I'm guessing you're not cutting due to the EQ being in there? Could be wrong though.

Only 4 a week due to the mix I've just added some more mas/tren/test. I just do two on a Monday and Two on a Thursday mate.
 
Back pumps can be a nightmare sometimes bad sometimes i'm fine for a few weeks at a time.
 
I like using masteron in most cycles so underrated IMO so many benefits and helps using high amounts of tren/test
 
I'm going to add some halo for 4 weeks soon. I plan on staying with this for another 2 months. So I've been on tren for about 5 months and use some npp which I haven't use before. Maybe one worth looking at mate.
 
I've not gone over a gram of tren and really don't need it (yet lol)
 
I try and use tren over the cold months due to my bed been full of water each morning.
 
Tren is in another league which you'll see when using deca

TooBiG


You got to be so so unlucky lol a tab a day with that little test and deca. Why would you take a tab a day and so little test and deca anyhow pointless cycle. Not heard many people have issues like yours before using a massive amount of letro and so so little test/deca

 
Previous Deca usage had already established some gyno development alongside more moderate AI usage.
 
The above cycle with 1 tab letro ED was another attempt at using Deca but to keep any further gyno development at bay....it did not work. Also tried increasing DHT to control the progesterone (winny, masteron, proviron etc) with no luck. 
 
Also tried using NPP with the logic being faster out would mean sides easier to cope with but the result was the same, worsening of gyno symptoms. 
 
I just do not get on with progesterone related gear. I may try again in the future if i have my gyno and glands removed but until that day any progesterone based gear is to be avoided for me. 
 
Regards such light usage, I am not as experienced as yourself and I do feel getting the best out of light usage is the best way to keep sides at bay. 
 
I am glad my usage has been moderate when considering my gyno issues. 
 
Using the minimum you feel you need = safe and sensible usage IMO.