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If that guy at the gym is gonna help ya its understandable he will want to see your diet plan.Its more than likely he dont know james so will want to scutinize the plan but most contest preps are pretty much along the same lines with just individual tweaks in how they do things and its as much you learning wat works for you as it is following someones plan by the letter.For example different people react differently to all the required stimuli ie sodium water, carb depletion blah blah.
Is this place a bodybuilding gym then...if so wats the standard of equipment/ state of repair of machines etc.

I guarentee he will not be happy with my advice. The same way I am not happy with other people's advice. It's because we follow different time lines of thought.

I guarentee other people commenting will mess with your mind. If I look at someone elses advice about a pre comp plan I never adversely comment - never, even if I disagree.

If other experienced competitors are listening, they will advise you to listen to just one person - or it can seriously mess with your mind.

Can others back me up on this please!

Yes, too right James. I only ever listen to Les and if anyone makes a comment to me that makes me wonder I ask him before I make any changes. It helps me understand a little more why Les designs my diet the way he does and also why the other person may be making different suggestions. Les now knows my 'body' (steady now) and how it reacts to what sort of food etc. If I'd been swapping and changing his advice then it would be really confusing.

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james llewellyn gets prepped by MT member ninepack.

he said that he got distracted by another persons advice whilst being prepped by ninepack and it f1cked his prep. he now says that under no circumstances will he deviate from what ninepack says.

its only natural, the grass is greener etc

james knows what he is doing, its not like he has never prepped anyone before.

all the best bud and hang in there

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I have faith in you James. I know you have a good and credible rep'. I will be sticking with your advice and look forwards to the further tweeks you will be making a week on Saturday. I will show Taj the advice you have given I will affirm my trust in you and ask them to concentrate on the intensity of my workout, and training plan: I really need the objectivity.

Thanks Kitty and Swift for the advice I understand the importance of sticking to 1 sytem and have no intension of being sidetraked. (too many cooks spoil the broth - and all that jazz).

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Good luck with comp,I will keep an eye on this journal

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Thanks for your support JamesR

I have been wondering what James view of HIIT might be. It is my prefered cardio as it only takes 20 - 25 min' I perfer doing the stationary bike and 45 min = numbness down south . Anyway, today I will do my 45 on the treadmill on an incline as suggested by Paul and Nigel @ the MT Meet.

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6:30 - 60g oats in skimmed milk, 1 tsp sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice

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Sounds like you should take the above advice.My experience is only working with own body and i always have an ear for different advice and theories but thats not for comp prep of which i have no experience.Spose you gotta go with those that know the coo.

The other guy could well be right with what he says, but it's his way and without the whole system, bits are useless.

HIIT is ok, especially if time is an issue - personally it's what I do.

Why is there a cadburys creme egg next to my oatcakes?!

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HIIT is ok, especially if time is an issue - personally it's what I do.

SWEET, Might do cardio from home. Use the old spin bike again

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NUTRITION
6:00 - 30g whey in water
6:30 - 60g oats in skimmed milk, 1 tsp sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice

10:00 - progen and an apple
12:30 - 100g of chicken in a wholemeal bap and an orange and a plumb

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numbness down south

If you have a spin bike at home mate get a gel seat from Argos, theyre around £8 and fit most bikes ive found.

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Yeah I invested in one of those very wide gel seats (ASDA). and things are not as bad as they used to be but long periods of cycling can still result in some numbness.

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Try balancing your workout with outa the saddle cycling...i used to prefer this cause you can bop to the music in time too

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Why is there a cadburys creme egg next to my oatcakes?!

PMSL, here we go, another domestic

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Yes I thought of that but the HIIT will take care of it all, especially for those days when I have a load of marking to do and little time to do it. Today was cool though Used he treadmil for a brisk uphill walk whilst readinf "Muscle" - great stuff .

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NUTRITION
6:00 - 30g whey in water
6:30 - 60g oats in skimmed milk, 1 tsp sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice

10:00 - progen and an apple and a plumb
12:30 - 100g of chicken in a wholemeal bap and an orange and a plumb

3:00 - 100g of chicken in a wholemeal bap and a banana
6:00 - 120g chicken and a small piece of yam and potato with a mix of lightly steamed green veg and 1 low fat probiotic yoghurt. all washed down with a tall drink of sqaush


It might be a little bit anal, but that gap between the 12:30 and 300 meal is really doing my head in becase though I have tried many times I cannot get rid of it...
YAY, I fixed it ... a bit sad I know

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Maybe he was testing you CD...

On the advice thing... Do go to one person, but if you don't like their advice you won't follow what they say, it's as simple as that... That's what I said to your lovely wife on Saturday. It's easy to suck up information like a sponge when you're new but nutritionally, listen to James, as that's who you're paying at the end of the day... Learning is good and if you want clarification on something, just ask why.

At the end of the day everyone's different. Genetically, personally, lifestlye-wise, so what suits one person won't always suit the next. I, for example, don't have time to do lots of cardio, so I do little as possible but am happy to survive on lower calories. Kitty however, is the complete opposite and is darn good at cardio too!

A friend of mine sees a trainer but only takes the advice they want to take and disregards all the rest. Then when weight doesn't drop and trainer asks "Did you do everything I told you to do" and they say "Yes". It clearly doesn't work...

I only see one person but I do ask questions on here, just to see what everyone else does and because soon, hopefull I'll know my own body well enough to do it myself one day...

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I completely agree with you, and I too prefer to do less of the prescribed cardio. I told James at our initial meeting that I would prefer the calorie deficit to come from my diet as in order to stat in decent shape I do not want to be stuck in a lifetime of laborious cardio sessions (I do like cardio for fitness and endurance though). I will show the guys my diet but will restict my nutrition plan to that which James has in store for me.

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6:00 - 30g whey in water
6:30 - 60g oats in skimmed milk, 1 tsp sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice

10:00 - progen and an apple and a plumb
12:30 - 100g of chicken in a wholemeal bap and an orange and a plumb

3:00 - 100g of chicken in a wholemeal bap and a banana
6:00 - 120g chicken and a small piece of sweet potato and 3 asparagus.

9:00 - 100g fresh makerel fillet. and 2 small handfull of mixed nuts.

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6:00 - 30g whey in water
6:30 - 60g oats in skimmed milk, 1 tsp sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice
12:00 - progen and an apple(Working hard - year 10 can be soooo demanding. Only 2 detentions given out so far)
13:30 - 120g chicken in a wholemeal pitta with salad and a pear.

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If you have the time then do take the cardio route and find something to distract you from the monotony (I read others watch TV/DVDs). Your diet will become so much harder the closer you get to the comp and if you can eat more it just helps keep you a little more sane. I also like to think that whilst doing the cardio it is also working the muscles so you're getting double benefit (or triple if you include getting fitter too). I've spoken to some judges who say they can tell the difference between those who have dieted and those who have done cardio.

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WOW, good advice and very technical in its simplicity. message recieved and understood. I will do cardio and learn to love it. (in-fact I did 45 min on the treadmil brisk uphill walk, and I enjoyed it. Moreover, James insisted that "there will be more cardio!![insert direct but empathetic voice]"). Thanks, Your input is greatly appreciated, direct and constructive .

I guess as long as I eat well during the winter I will not put on the hybernation fat I am so good at doing every year?

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NUTRITION
6:00 - 30g whey in water
6:30 - 60g oats in skimmed milk, 1 tsp sugar and 200ml of fresh fruit juice
12:00 - progen and an apple(Working hard - year 10 can be soooo demanding. Only 2 detentions given out so far)
13:30 - 120g chicken in a wholemeal pitta with salad and a pear.

4:00 - 120g chicken in a wholemeal pitta with salad and mixed tropical fruit..
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6:30 - 120g chicken and a small piece of yam and raw spinnach
8:30 - 100g makerel fillet and 2 handfulls of mixed nuts.
10:00 - 30g whey in skimmed milk

MISC:
5 oatkakes
countless chewing gum

WORKOUT

SHOULDERS
Seated DB Shoulder Press
12x28kgs
10x30kgs
8x32kgs
6x34kgs
Standing DB Shruggs
10x40kgs
8x42kgs
8x44kgs
6x46kgs


TRICEPS

Close Grip BB Bench Press
10x50kgs
8x50kgs
8x50kgs
8x50kgs
Tricep Push Down
10x50kgs
10x50kgs
10x50kgs

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