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I'm considering going on SD Matrix for a 4 week cycle supplemented with LiverMilk and PCT is Esto Supress for 4 weeks. Does this sound ok? Mate of mine who is 18, 5'11 160lbs has just started SD Matrix but is going with NO PCT. Will this mean he will lose his gains and **** himself up for future? Thanks.
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Re:SD Matrix
21 January 2012 17:53
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What is Esto Supress (what has it got in it). For such a harsh PH/steroid as SD matrix, the base of your PCT should always be a serm like Nolva or Clomid. Then a testbooster like testforce, hcgenerate, bioforge is reccomended if budget permits. For the harsher compounds with large gains, I also think a Sarm like ostarine at a low dose is a good addition but that's getting ahead of things. And to your 2nd question, in a word, Yes. Please advise him otherwise if you can.
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Re:SD Matrix
21 January 2012 18:02
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Vibora What is Esto Supress (what has it got in it). For such a harsh PH/steroid as SD matrix, the base of your PCT should always be a serm like Nolva or Clomid. Then a testbooster like testforce, hcgenerate, bioforge is reccomended if budget permits. For the harsher compounds with large gains, I also think a Sarm like ostarine at a low dose is a good addition but that's getting ahead of things. And to your 2nd question, in a word, Yes. Please advise him otherwise if you can. Esto Supress contains 1,2-diphenyl-1-butene 10mg. I'm trying to but he doesn't listen.
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Re:SD Matrix
22 January 2012 10:40
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RE93 I'm considering going on SD Matrix for a 4 week cycle supplemented with LiverMilk and PCT is Esto Supress for 4 weeks. Does this sound ok? Mate of mine who is 18, 5'11 160lbs has just started SD Matrix but is going with NO PCT. Will this mean he will lose his gains and **** himself up for future? Thanks. what i would say is that if this is your first cycle you would be better off with something less harsh to gain experience with these type of compounds. also since your "mate" who is only 160 pounds... would be better off with something milder. how long has he been training??? remember these compounds will only work if your training and nutrition are spot on.
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Re:SD Matrix
22 January 2012 16:29
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He hasn't been training for that long only a few months serious I would say. He's not doing a PCT, will this **** him up?
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Re:SD Matrix
23 January 2012 11:48
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RE93 He hasn't been training for that long only a few months serious I would say. He's not doing a PCT, will this **** him up? to be honest and im sure alot of people on here would agree with me, is that if you and your friend have only been training a few months seriously you DO NOT need to be taking SD matrix. SD matrix is an oral steroid (methyl-1-test), go back and look at your diet and training and get those nailed down first and have a good 2 to 3 years lifting experience before goin near this again. even if you do decide to do a designer steroid or prohormone, please look at something milder like hdrol,pmag or even epi. and for the love of god research into proper post cycle therapy and support supplements for when on the cycle. in a nutshell if your friends doesnt do post cycle, expect slow recovery of natural test and loss of gains. possibly some gyno formation.
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