SD or SD + TREN

Hey guys looking for some advice,
 
My last cycle was about 7 months ago and i ran dragon nutrions PRO-SD + PRO-TREN (20mg/100mg ED for 3 weeks) i gained really well - about 17 lbs before pct.
 
my question is; this time round i obviously want to replicate my success but dont necessarily want to take TREN aswell as im not bothered about strength etc will i still gain aswell on just the SD or shall i just take both same as last time?
 
the more i think about this actually the more i think i should just do the same cycle as last time, what do you guys think?
 
Cheers

my feeling  is go simple with just SD but look to possibly running it at 30mg.
how did you find your previous cycle for sides and what was post cycle recovery like ? 

HI THERE I HAVE JUST STARTED A NEW cycle (on me) using different stuff this time iam running a cycle with Mass-DROL and Oxybol they are great for bulking up really fast 1st week your body just explodes out . i also use creatine ethyl ester and whey  but when all combined it makes a excellent combi ....hope the product advice helps ??
 

wrayman i dont need product advice thanks i already have my supps leftover from last time.
 
Thanks for the reply lost, the only real sides i got last time was shin and back pumps, the shin pumps made me have to pause when walking sometimes because it became painfull.
 
didn't have bloods done but there were no hiccups during PCT everything went as planned and i felt i recovered well.
 
didnt even consider running at 30mg, might be looking like SD just hope i can get the same gains
 

sorry mate wasnt trying to give proper advice was trying to see if the stuff i was using would of gone down your road alright ...never had the oxybol new cycle for me was always d-bol and worked well from what i have heard these oxybol are great anyone got any advice for these

no offence mate but can you start a new thread if you have questions, this is for checking my superdrol cycle

~If you found the sides manageable last time I would consider 30mg on SD solo then.

Thanks for the input JW, can i ask why you think 30mg would be better than 20mg? and also if i ran 30mg how would i space it out, evenly as in: 10mg 6AM, 10Mmg 12PM, 10mg 6PM? or 10mg AM / 20mg PM?
 
thanks

what was so bad about the tren last cycle? were the side that bad to where you dont want to run it again? i havent had the chance to run tren yet, so thats why i ask...

ive done 3 sd cycles, 3 pills spaced through out the day worked best for me.

Thanks mate, well there was nothing bad about the TREN sides werent too bad but TREN's main effects are strength which im not too bothered about at the moment so dont want to take something if i dont need it, plus TREN + SD shuts you down quite hard so SD on its own would be better really but i dont want to sacrifice my results, ahh! lol

my feeling is that the sides from 30mg aren't really any worse than 20mg (take into consideration that SD is very kind to me).
 
going purely by feel i felt
20mg SD+tren recovery took longer than 30mg SD solo

cool, just thoguht if the tren wasnt bad for you it wouldnt hurt to throw it back in for the strength, but if thats not what ur looking for... do you feel tren gave you any size? sounds like it if you gained 17lbs..what did you use for pct?

You could also look at adding another week of SD (at whatever dose you choose to run) to make it a four week cycle.
 
And 17lbs in 3 weeks is a LOT. How was strength and size maintenance in PCT?

Biscuit_Boy


Thanks for the input JW, can i ask why you think 30mg would be better than 20mg? and also if i ran 30mg how would i space it out, evenly as in: 10mg 6AM, 10Mmg 12PM, 10mg 6PM? or 10mg AM / 20mg PM?

thanks

I would always space evenly personally - 30mg over 30mg means you are getting more of the active ingredient in the system and will find the effects will be increased, to what degree cannot really be measured and will vary from user to user but if you have run 20mg stacked in the past and been fine then you could run it bumped and always drop back to 20mg if needed.
 
Have to be honest though if you had those sorts of resutls from SD and Tren and want to run SD again why not run the Tren stack once more?

Biscuit_Boy


wrayman i dont need product advice thanks i already have my supps leftover from last time.

Thanks for the reply lost, the only real sides i got last time was shin and back pumps, the shin pumps made me have to pause when walking sometimes because it became painfull.

didn't have bloods done but there were no hiccups during PCT everything went as planned and i felt i recovered well.

didnt even consider running at 30mg, might be looking like SD just hope i can get the same gains

They are an absolute fcuker aint they, the shin pumps?
Mine kick in after 5 minutes of walking LOL then Im limping, then I need to actually stop for a few minutes because the pain is too much. I actually tried to exceed this pain once and kept going - then I collapsed LOL
 
20mg or 30mg... I think your weight will have an effect on dose? So maybe 30mg if you want more explosive results and are heavy?
I reckon you could lay it out over 4 weeks like 20/20/30/30.... and see how it goes?
I love SD, and SD loves me because I love carbs!
 
Or you could try Mass-58, which will outdo your solo SD gains Im sure... but as you said, your already set!
 
Best of luck mate!

i too soon will be doin an SD+TREN combo cycle. 30mg of sd and 60mg of tren for four weeks. il be interested in seeing how your cycle plays out.

don't think 60mg of tren would touch the sides for me (would normally run it at 90-100mg in a stack)

Id add the tren in!  at 100mg - 150 mg 
 
Maz

Thanks for the input guys, i probably should have mentioned that ive been out of the gym for a while so am probably about the same size (maybe a bit bigger) than when i started the cycle last time.
 
if i remember  correctly i kept 14lbs out of the 17 gaine after PCT and kept most of my strength only a few drops in KG's after PCT.
 
Think im gonna run the same stack again as some people have already said - i gained  alot first time round so hopefully will have the same luck again.
 
Any advice on sorting shin pumps? they were the only bad thing last time