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RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 21 August 2008 16:20 (permalink)
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    RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 28 August 2008 02:53 (permalink)
    Hi all,

    I came across this fine site while searching for some ideas for conserving muscle mass and strength over the fasting month...

    i am really anxious this year cause of the longer hours required to fast...

    just want to express my appreciation for all the great information and its respectful presentation on this site, and the fact that there is a topic dedicated to the Ramadan month as it is truely trying time for any lifter involved.

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      RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 31 August 2008 14:20 (permalink)
      Thanks this thread has some very usefull info.
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        RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 31 August 2008 18:12 (permalink)
        This year is gonna be a killer, i aint got no time to train as i am on nights the whole month.
        Even upon breaking the fast, on my days off i have to see how i feel for a quick light session.
        Basic aims are to eat clean, and avoid gaining fat.
        There's nothing else you can do.
        Good luck bro's and ramahdan mubarak to you all.
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          RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 02 September 2008 15:25 (permalink)

          Hi guys,

          How is everyones fasting going together with diet & training?

          My diet before sunrise has been as follows:

          500ml water
          2 whole eggs & 3 egg white ommelette
          1 whole meal pitta, 1 wholemeal toast with flora spread
          bowl of oats with raisins & honey
          glass tropicana orange juice
          40g Instant milk protein with 5g L-Glutamine & 3g HMB in mixture of 100g milk & 200g water

          upon breaking fast my diet has been as follows:

          40g of whey protein with glucose
          dates & fruit
          Chicken/meat/fish
          Rice, pitta or potatos
          Water

          yesterday i only managed 1 litre of water as it was the first day for fasting and i was feeling really tired due to lack of sleep and feeling a bit under the weather 9seasonal cold symptoms) :-(

          For training i am hoping to try to maintain my muscle & weight but lower body fat by following a 4 day split as follows:

          Monday: Pull routine & 20 mins steady state cardio
          Tuesday: Push routine & 20 mins steady state cardio
          Wednesday: Bag work, skipping, burpees & ab work
          Thursday: Legs & 20 mins steady state cardio

          I will keep gym work to 1 hour max and weights will most likely be at a weight that i can lift between 6-8 reps at 3 sets.

          I also don't know how best to fuel my workouts as i will be going to the gym 15 mins after breaking the fast, i will obviously consume a protein shake and fruit/banana. i don't want to eat a full meal as then i will not be able to train and also do cardio with the aim of burning body fat as energy source.

          Any opinions/advice on the above will be most welcome together with everyones diets and training plans during the month of fasting.

          Thanks
           
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            RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 02 September 2008 15:43 (permalink)

            Hi Guys,

            Another really good read, kindly funded by the Department of health:

            http://www.communitiesinaction.org/Ramadan%20Health%20and%20Spirituality%20Guide.pdf
            <message edited by IBZ on 02 September 2008 15:46>
             
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              RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 02 September 2008 16:11 (permalink)
              Hey mate

              personally, its been a bit of a mess these last two days...i am working evening to nights on shift basis.

              I am trying to eat through the night, every 2 hours

              100g Rice + 200g Chicken Breast + Salad 
              500ml water


               at 4.30 am I finish off with: a glass of smoothie
                             300g of cottage cheese with fruit + a few tablespoons of yog
                             1 large homemade oatcake + peanut butter
                             3 1000mg Fish Oil caps

              By then i am impossibly full and quite uncomfortable. I have worked hard all summer i got down to a good cut ( 8% bf from 13%) so i am psychologically finding it hard to eat more carbs at such an odd time and then go to sleep. 

              Today will be the first day back in the gym..ill be training shoulders and biceps (3 x 12) and abs, no cardio. this is more of a trial and error routine tho. 

              very anxious about the whole thing. . .  
                             
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                RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 02 September 2008 22:47 (permalink)
                At 4am i usually have:
                My anit-catabolic approach. lol

                1L of water with 2000mg Vit C dissolvable one.
                50g whey in 200ml skimmed milk
                3 Table spoons of H&B EFA's combo equals to 30gs in glass of diet coke, tastes ok! lol
                15gs of L Glutamine
                40mcg of Clenbuterol
                50gs of oats in water
                A piece of fruit pref banana

                Training, i havnt been yet, im like yourself im on nights also.
                Aiming to train twice a wk, keeping it simple for a month, not going too heavy, may be include 20 mins ss cv too.

                I just come of a 16wk cutter, 8 of those wks on aas, the first 8 wks natural, apart from clens.
                Doing cardio 5 times a wk, and weights, went from 20% down to 11%. In reasonable shape. Just dont want it to go to waste bcuz of fasting. Guess ill have to wait till after eid to catch up.

                Anyway good luck bro's...
                 
                 
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                  RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 03 September 2008 02:02 (permalink)
                  i just got back from training...was a true uphill struggle...felt light headed and was much weaker than usual...will have to adjust elements of diet accordingly...

                  i am relying on real food despite lack of convinience since i had alot of bills to pay and had to cut work shifts cause of exams--hence i am low on supps...just a few scoops of whey left...
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                    RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 03 September 2008 13:30 (permalink)
                    Guys approx what time are lighting up and daybreak times at the moment?

                     
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                      RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 03 September 2008 13:57 (permalink)
                      James


                      Guys approx what time are lighting up and daybreak times at the moment?


                      Hi James,

                      Sunrise is approx 04:28 and sunset is approx 19:51

                      As the days go by sunrise gets later and sunset gets earlier (this changes by about 2 mins every day)

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                        RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 03 September 2008 14:36 (permalink)
                        cheers - so it gets slightly easier every day!

                         
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                          RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 03 September 2008 14:51 (permalink)

                          LOL, yeah mate you could say that, suppose the body also gets used to it and adjusts itself accordingly.

                          What do you think would be good to eat after breaking fast and prior to going gym to do say 30 mins weights lightish weights to maintain exsisting gains and 20 mins steady state cardio that will hopefully use body fat as energy source to drop body fat as i'm thinking it will be similar to doing cardio first thing in the mornign afetr your body wakes up from its nightly fast?

                          I was thinking a protein shake (40g) with glucose for rapid injestion and a banana.

                          Many thanks for popping into this thread for your knowledge and help.
                           
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                            RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 03 September 2008 16:51 (permalink)
                            right now i am having

                            100g rice + 200g chicken breast + fibrous veg
                            plenty of water

                            i wait 20-30 mins and then have  1 large homemade oatcake (30g oats, apple, peanut butter, sugar) and hit the gym

                            straight after i down 20g whey in water

                            then head home to another 100g rice + 200g chicken and alot of veg

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                              RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 05 September 2008 03:00 (permalink)
                              Iv actually lost 2lbs already and 1% bf! lol.
                              Down to 12.13st.

                              IBZ i usually have a lucozade the one which has caffiene for extra stimulation and fat burning. Good stuff.
                              Salaam.

                               
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                                RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 05 September 2008 15:46 (permalink)
                                I havent checked the scale but i feel that i have lost some thickness, especially in arms, chest and legs...

                                will check weight in gym tonight...
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                                  RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 08 September 2008 17:25 (permalink)
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                                  Iv actually lost 2lbs already and 1% bf! lol.
                                  Down to 12.13st.

                                  IBZ i usually have a lucozade the one which has caffiene for extra stimulation and fat burning. Good stuff.
                                  Salaam.


                                  Salaam,

                                  Do you have any food prior to gym?

                                  I am thinking of 40g protein with dextrose & creatine, 1 banana & adding fat burning pill which has caffeine for the stimulation as well and then doing 30 mins weights (max) to maintain current muscle mass & then do 20 mins steady state cardio to try & loose fat.

                                  20g - 30g whey protein straight after cardio

                                  10 mins later arrive home from gym and have proper meal.

                                  Would the above meal plan be ideal for body to tap into fat store as energy or is there anything else you can advise to add/remove?

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                                    RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 08 September 2008 19:26 (permalink)
                                    IBZ


                                    LOL, yeah mate you could say that, suppose the body also gets used to it and adjusts itself accordingly.

                                    What do you think would be good to eat after breaking fast and prior to going gym to do say 30 mins weights lightish weights to maintain exsisting gains and 20 mins steady state cardio that will hopefully use body fat as energy source to drop body fat as i'm thinking it will be similar to doing cardio first thing in the mornign afetr your body wakes up from its nightly fast?

                                    I was thinking a protein shake (40g) with glucose for rapid injestion and a banana.

                                    Many thanks for popping into this thread for your knowledge and help.

                                    I would immediately have some simple sugars and whey protein, followed 30 mins later by a meal of high protein and low GI carbs - then train 45 mins after eating that.

                                    I wouldn't want to train only on the whey and glucose.  If you need to train not too late, then have some oatcakes with this too


                                     
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                                      RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 11 September 2008 04:44 (permalink)
                                      hi all
                                      i checked the scales today...apparrently theres no real numerical change...but my body composition is changing...losing muscle thickness and storing increasing amounts of fat below the belly button...was around 9% before starting ramadan..now must be atleast I2% or more...abs are doing a houdini...
                                      do you think it would wise to start some steady state cardio...at the moment i am just doing weights...3xI2 X 2 body parts/day--usually 3-4 exercises/body part.
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                                        RE: SOME HEALTH GUIDELINES FOR RAMADAN 11 September 2008 10:32 (permalink)
                                        Hi mate,

                                        I am the same, the number on the scale has not changed which did surprise me as i was thinking i would have lost weight but do feel and notice in the mirror of loosing the thickness & muscle size :-(

                                        I am doing 20 mins steady state cardio after weights now. As much as it pains me to say this i've decided not to worry too much about the muscle loss, as i am hoping muscle memory will pick up after fasting is over and can really go at it hammer & tongs.
                                        So at present i thought to do more cardio & get my belly fat as low as i can and depending on how i look after fasting is over maybe continue with the cut and then start a clean bulk.
                                        I would say start a steady state cardio after your weights session and see how you get on. What is your current diet like?
                                         
                                         
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