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MuscleDeaf
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 29 November 2003 13:36
Tatz.....you got them yet? Just wondering if you've started yet and, if so, wot u think of it?

Cheers

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 29 November 2003 16:32
muscledeaf
only got it this morning mate, going to start on monday, ill keep you posted.
big a
Starting seo on monday injecting my traps. Was thinking of training heavy twice a week as normal then on my days off just do very light high reps shrugs to get the blood pumping around. Is this the right way to go about it?
thanks tatz

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 30 November 2003 07:41
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Originally posted by tatz2003

big a
Starting seo on monday injecting my traps. Was thinking of training heavy twice a week as normal then on my days off just do very light high reps shrugs to get the blood pumping around. Is this the right way to go about it?
thanks tatz



Yep, that's correct. Do those pumping sets after the shots each day.
Also, since you are doing traps, that's a huge muscle. You might want to increase the size of the shots as quickly as you can - as soon as you are not sore from 1ml anymore (a couple of days) go up to 2ml, then 3ml then 4 ml per trap. It's a huge muscle, it can take a lot. You'll look like Goldberg soon too ;)

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 30 November 2003 18:07
I am mising something I guess. But they all say oral use.

I want to shed a few pounds of bf before my next bulking cycle. I am considering the syntheburn and or Syntheselen. Do the usual blood pressure etc warnings apply to both products.

Is this an intra muscular jab or oral....I may just be being very dim and missing the whole point????

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 01 December 2003 01:31
quote:
Originally posted by Rainmaker

I am mising something I guess. But they all say oral use.

I want to shed a few pounds of bf before my next bulking cycle. I am considering the syntheburn and or Syntheselen. Do the usual blood pressure etc warnings apply to both products.

Is this an intra muscular jab or oral....I may just be being very dim and missing the whole point????



SyntheBURN is oral - capsules.

Syntheselen has to be IM or SQ. Otherwise it won't work.
Most of their products are like that. They are made in a pharma lab, sterile, so everyone in the know knows to inj them...

I don't think that you will have any blood pressure problems with Syntheselen. You might with SyntheBURN.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 01 December 2003 19:31
Cheers BigA, thought so. I knew the ECA was an oral cap but was unsure about the rest.

Has anyone tried any of these for cutting or are the products too new to have any feed back?

Am really tempted by Syntheselen

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 01 December 2003 21:18
sarted seo today, going to do 1mil for 5 days then 2mil for 5 days then 3mil for 10 days and 4mil for 10 days
tatz

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 01 December 2003 22:59
Good luck m8! Presume u mean in the traps?

Cheers

MD


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 01 December 2003 23:22
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Originally posted by MuscleDeaf

Good luck m8! Presume u mean in the traps?

Cheers

MD




yes mate in my traps, left ones aching a little but should be fine once im used to it in a few days
tatz

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 02 December 2003 01:33
quote:
Originally posted by Rainmaker

Cheers Has anyone tried any of these for cutting or are the products too new to have any feed back?

Am really tempted by Syntheselen



Go to my board and ask around. Virtually every member there uses their products and has been for 3 years or so.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 02 December 2003 19:17
BigA,

What sort of doses? Is it the same as published on the web?

Thanks i will bro

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 03 December 2003 02:01
quote:
Originally posted by Rainmaker

BigA,

What sort of doses? Is it the same as published on the web?

Thanks i will bro



Actually the doses on the site are the correct ones. Just don't drink it, inj :)

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 04 December 2003 18:55
Big A if I am 155lbs that is 2 shots 1.5ml each. One in the morning and one at night (that seems to be what bros on your web are suggesting)

How long would you recommend staying on? Is it like an eca/clen which needs cycling?

I promise not too many more stupid questions

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 05 December 2003 01:32
quote:
Originally posted by Rainmaker

Big A if I am 155lbs that is 2 shots 1.5ml each. One in the morning and one at night (that seems to be what bros on your web are suggesting)

How long would you recommend staying on? Is it like an eca/clen which needs cycling?

I promise not too many more stupid questions



2 x 1.5ml shots sounds good. I assume IM? You can't do more than 1ml per site SQ or you'll get a lump.

You don't have to cycle it in any shape or form as it's not a hormonal product and also the body doesn't get desensitised to it either.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 05 December 2003 19:39
SEO UPDATE
just done the first 5 days of seo 1ml per day each trap. Already a huge difference and they are not swole either. Doing 4 sets of 25 light wieght shrugs (50kg) after every injection to get the blood pumping around plus my normal 3 sets of 8 (150kg) twice a week. Going up to 2ml tomorrow for 5 days. So far im impressed with the stuff and ill keep you posted.
tatz

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 06 December 2003 12:01
What size needle do u have to use to inject seo?

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 06 December 2003 13:07
quote:
Originally posted by Slasher

What size needle do u have to use to inject seo?



Depends which brand do you have. Syntherol is the thinnest and it goes through even a 29g insulin pin. Most use 25g or 26g. 1/2" to 1" as you want to vary the depth. You want to use the smallest gauge pin possible so you minimise scar tissue.

Other brands like PnP don't go through anything smaller than a 21g.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 06 December 2003 14:37
If using syntherol on bis would same principal apply? i.e. I have plenty of 5/8" and 1" pins - alternate depths to aid "build up"?

Cheers

MD


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 06 December 2003 16:15
im using 5/8 myself
tatz

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 07 December 2003 03:09
quote:
Originally posted by MuscleDeaf

If using syntherol on bis would same principal apply? i.e. I have plenty of 5/8" and 1" pins - alternate depths to aid "build up"?

Cheers

MD





Correct.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 08 December 2003 23:18
Big A,

Going to give the Synthelamin a try during my next cycle. This will be the first time I've used inj B-12 so have a couple of questions...

(1) Recommended dosage is 2ml every 3-4 days. Does this stand for first time users??

(2) Can I mix the B-12 solution with oil based gear and shoot at the same time??

Thanks in advance mate

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 08 December 2003 23:57
Big A,

I note Synhetek manufacture various fat loss aid items. I'm a bit confused here. Which ones perform better than others do you reckon?

Cheers

MD


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 09 December 2003 02:43
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Originally posted by TonyStarks

Big A,

Going to give the Synthelamin a try during my next cycle. This will be the first time I've used inj B-12 so have a couple of questions...

(1) Recommended dosage is 2ml every 3-4 days. Does this stand for first time users??

(2) Can I mix the B-12 solution with oil based gear and shoot at the same time??

Thanks in advance mate



Actually recomended dosage is 1ml every 3-4 days.
This is how I like to do it though - for a whole week, 1ml per day, as a'loading' phase. That will make me hungry as hell. Then 1ml every 3 or 4 days after that. Usually 1ml Mon and 1ml Thu.

You can mix the B12 with any other gear you wish, oil or water based. The B12 is water based.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 09 December 2003 02:46
so winny might be a better option for injecting, i dont like injecting oil and water at same time. ouch!

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 09 December 2003 02:59
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Originally posted by MuscleDeaf

Big A,

I note Synhetek manufacture various fat loss aid items. I'm a bit confused here. Which ones perform better than others do you reckon?

Cheers

MD





All their fat loss products do different things as far as fat loss is concerned.

Syntheselen - will speed your metabolism, so you burn fat quicker. It realistically works like a mild anabolic like Primo, etc.

Synthetine - it's the only carrier for fat accross the mitochondria to get burned. It doesn't burn any fat by itself, but it's the limiting factor in how much fat you burn - no matter how many fat burners you take, you will only burn as much as it's being carried across to get burned, so loading up on Synthetine is a good idea.

SyntheBURN - thermogenic fat burner. Super duper ECA stacker. It simply burns fat, nothing else to say.

SyntheBLOCKplus - blocks carbs and fats from a meal when you take it with a meal. Perfect example - 3 slices of dry toast is a diet meal, providing about 100g of carbs. If you add butter and jam to the toast, it's not a diet meal anymore. You take SyntheBLOCKplus with that, the capsules will block enough carbs and fats that are found in the butter and jam. So, it makes a 'bad' meal into a diet meal. So, you lose fat that way.
SyntheBLOCKplus is for people that are already dieting, and they have some craving, or their meals are just on the other side of a bad meal (ie toast with jam and butter). SyntheBLOCKplus helps them be on a diet.
If you want to cheat your diet with a Big Mac though, you'll probably have to take the whole bottle of it with the burger :)

SyntheDEXTRIN - it's a complex carbohydrate, with a very long structure, as such making it pretty much the last carb to be converted into fat. So, if you replace all your carb sources in your diet with maltodextrin, you will still have the energy that you get from carbs, but you will lose fat, as maltodextrin is the 'best' carb out there while all other carbs will more redily turn into fat, than it will.

SynthePURE - pure whey protein isolate. Obviously, you replace a meal with a plain whey isolate shake, you will be losing fat, as SynthePURE it's just pure protein - per 100g of powder you get 96.4g of protein, 0.3g of fat and 0.8g of carbs. No meal will beat that.

All the above are products that affect fat loss in some way.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 09 December 2003 03:04
quote:
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so winny might be a better option for injecting, i dont like injecting oil and water at same time. ouch!



I don't have any pain when I inj any oil and water in the same syringe. B12 is good to thin the winny though to make it go easier through a needle.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 09 December 2003 13:41
Cheers Big A, will definately give the b-12 a go then - thanks for the input

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 09 December 2003 22:14
Thanks Big A for your interesting reply. Is there a possibility some of these fat losing stimulants could also lose some of the hard earned muscles along the way?

Cheers

MD


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 09 December 2003 22:51
just inspired me to use 400mg of Synthetine with my next DNP cycle b4 summer :)

Cheers big A

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 10 December 2003 00:53
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Originally posted by MuscleDeaf

Thanks Big A for your interesting reply. Is there a possibility some of these fat losing stimulants could also lose some of the hard earned muscles along the way?

Cheers

MD





None of them burn muscle tissue.

Regarding muscle loss when you are dieting - if you are losing any muscle, that is because you have a lack of protein in the diet. So just eat more protein, and the muscle loss will stop. People are scared to add more protein when they are dieting because they don't want to break their 'diet' but that is stupid. If you are losing muscle, eat more protein. If you are not losing enough fat, increase fat burning drugs and eat less carbs. It's that simple.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 10 December 2003 15:45
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Cheers Big A, will definately give the b-12 a go then - thanks for the input



is the b-12 oral or injectable?

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 10 December 2003 18:17
b12 is injectable mate
tatz

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 12 December 2003 00:27
Big A

re: syntherol. As you know there's 3 heads in the delts: front, side and back. Injecting (and aspirating) in the front and side's pretty easy but think you need to be a bit of a contortionist to achieve the back ones. Any suggestions?

Cheers

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 12 December 2003 12:35
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Big A

re: syntherol. As you know there's 3 heads in the delts: front, side and back. Injecting (and aspirating) in the front and side's pretty easy but think you need to be a bit of a contortionist to achieve the back ones. Any suggestions?

Cheers

MD





Impossible to do the rear delts yourself. You need someone to help you.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 12 December 2003 17:40
any local London volunteers to help me? "You scratch mine and I'll scratch yours" LOL!

MD


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 13 December 2003 18:02
Big A

I'm still undecided between Syntheselen and Sybthertine. Just wondering if a suitable compromise would be to get both and alternate them? i.e. day 1 syntheselen, day 2 synthertine and so on?

Is this feasible?

Cheers

MD


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 14 December 2003 00:31
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Originally posted by MuscleDeaf

Big A

I'm still undecided between Syntheselen and Sybthertine. Just wondering if a suitable compromise would be to get both and alternate them? i.e. day 1 syntheselen, day 2 synthertine and so on?

Is this feasible?

Cheers

MD





Certainly it's feasible. That's how I use them, because of the volume of shots. I take Syntheselen one day, alternating with Synthetine the other day.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 14 December 2003 11:29
Thanks Big A.

I think I'll order both in the New Year.

Cheers

MD

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 15 December 2003 16:20
Big A
Ive done about 2 weeks on seo now but injecting is getting painfull now, a bit of scar tissue now. Would it be ok to stop for a few days then start back up from where i left off or will the gains rapidly dissapear because ive not done the full 30 days?
thanks tatz

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 16 December 2003 02:17
quote:
Originally posted by tatz2003

Big A
Ive done about 2 weeks on seo now but injecting is getting painfull now, a bit of scar tissue now. Would it be ok to stop for a few days then start back up from where i left off or will the gains rapidly dissapear because ive not done the full 30 days?
thanks tatz



It's ok to take a couple of days off. You should anyway if you are getting scar tissue. If you are getting scar tissue, you are not massaging enough!
You will drop a tiny amount of size during these few days - it's only the inflamation from the trauma caused by so many daily injections. You won't be losing any gains.

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