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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 30 January 2005 05:36
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 30 January 2005 06:48
I just replied back to you.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 30 January 2005 06:56
Cheers m8. Not got it yet. Will look it up when I get to Perth on Tues!

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 11 February 2005 16:59
Synthergine - Liver Protectant
Ingredients: arginine hydrochloride, sodium glucuronate, di-isopropylamine dichloroacetate, lysine hydrochloride, methionine hydrochloride. 100ml bottle

Synthergine is guarenteed to be the most potent liver conditioner/detoxifier available in the world. Synthergine is especially useful for conditions where the liver gets stressed due to the toxicity of certain bodybuilding chemicals.


what are peoples opinion of thease? i had a blood test done while on a cycle and my liver was quite stressed. would this alone sort it?
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 52 IU/L 40 - 129
ASPARTATE TRANSFERASE *42 IU/L 15 - 40
ALANINE TRANSFERASE *73 IU/L 10 - 50
LDH 294 IU/L 240 - 480
CK *299 IU/L 38 - 204

do you swallow it? what doseage is required?

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 12 February 2005 03:39


ORIGINAL: edcase

do you swallow it? what doseage is required?


Swallow or inj it IM or SQ.
You use 1ml for every 55lbs of your bodyweight per day.
On my board ProMuscle, tons of people use it as their exclusive liver aid. Do a search there and see the feedback.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 05 April 2005 20:29
...Whats the side effects?

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 06 April 2005 01:57


ORIGINAL: SyNdiCate

...Whats the side effects?


Of which product?

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 11 May 2005 02:29
using the B12 just now, does exactly what it states on the bottle, very pleased.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 11 May 2005 02:32
is it painful to inject? does it have a big effect on appetite then?

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 12 May 2005 17:00
nah mate its painfree, easy no probs and the appetite stimulation is good, Id say 20% more food going in me now, where I couldnt dream of eating before, I can now manage.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 13 May 2005 15:10
just ordered their liver protectant , I think the b12 injectable will be next on shopping list
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 13 May 2005 15:12
cool mate, im tempted by the liver protector aswell, gonna search it out first and see whats what


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 14 May 2005 16:04
Seems that its superior to milkthistle , and seeing as i havent been the best of friends to my liver in the past ( alcohol )
i think it will be a good idea . I must get some blood work done fairly soon , trying to prioritise how much money should go where
isnt easy , im always tempted to save my money for gear LOL
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 14 May 2005 16:40
very true mate, I know what your saying, il let you know what my research reveals.


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 19 May 2005 20:17
bbigman hows the b12 appetite enhancer doing , i`m having trouble eating enough during the day now the weather has got warmer
and i`m tempted to invest in some
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 20 May 2005 19:10
when using the B12 do you guys put the pin through the bottle top or open it to drawl?

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 21 May 2005 10:46
You want to be drawing it out with a pin , keep the top on the bottle so the solution stays sterile , Don`t open it
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 21 May 2005 13:12
yeh stick the pin through the bottle top mate,

its going well and ive put on half a stone with it, alongside insulin, working superb,.

bb


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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 31 May 2005 16:06
Well my Sythergine liver protectant arrived to day so i`ve started 3 mg / Day , easyto inject 25 G pin . Think I`ll get some finer pins for the daily injects .
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 02 June 2005 20:24
I was just wondering how long the gains for Syntherol last, do they stay as long as you are on it, and start to drift once off even if you are still lifting hard, or will they stay as long as you continue to build yourself up?

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 03 June 2005 01:41


ORIGINAL: Dellik_Reven

I was just wondering how long the gains for Syntherol last, do they stay as long as you are on it, and start to drift once off even if you are still lifting hard, or will they stay as long as you continue to build yourself up?


Here is my article that will explain how to use Syntherol properly and how results work and last, etc:

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The most popular now are Synthol/PumpnPose, Syntherol, EsikClean, Nuclear Nutrition Site Oil and Liquid Muscle.

Synthol/PumpnPose is the original product. As such, it charges a lot of money and it's the most expensive variant as it relies on it's name to sell it - the cheapest found is $149.95. There must be a lot of fakes out there since the inventor of it, Chris Clark, charges a wholesale price of over $100 per bottle (and that's for large quantity), so there's no way that some outfits can retail it for $100. The only official distributor for PnP is www.posingoil.com

Syntherol is my favourite simply because is the only one that I know of that is made by a real pharmaceutical company, so guaranteed sterile, plus it hurts less and the results seem to be better - don't take my word for it, ask around! It's the same formula as Synthol/PumpnPose, with added silica, which is a safe way to make the gains more 'permanent'. It's also the number 1 best selling Site Oil in the world, so they must be doing something right! And Synthetek (the maker of Syntherol) is the only company to offer a double money back guarantee and they never had any complaints from any customer from anywhere in the world! By far my choice, plus, it's cheap - $129.95. www.synthetek.com

EsikClean - same formula as Synthol, but it has colagen added. That makes it a very bad choice to use in my opinion. When you use site oils, the biggest problem is the formation of scar tissue. You don't want any scar tissue build up when you use site oils. Scar tissue is colagen buildup due to the trauma caused to the muscle by sticking a needle in there. As such, I would not help the build up of scar tissue in the muscle by injecting colagen. So, that's a bad choice. $100 per bottle www.synthol-direct.com Plus these are the people that counterfited Chris Clark's PnP and Synthetek's Syntherol, so one wonders how 'genuine' they are. Their associated websites are www.synthol.com, www.finalabs.com, www.zoelabs.com I strongly recommend that people stay away from them!

Nuclear Nutrition Oil - is a very good product, which works quite well. It's exactly as Syntherol, plus the addition of a small amount of prohormones. I am not a big fan of prohormones due to the reason that they will give you more side effects than benefits. Also, because of the prohormones, you cannot import it into countries like Canada or Australia, where prohormones are illegal. Still a good product - $149.95 www.nuclearnutrition.com

Liquid Muscle - same as PumpnPose, but at $199.95 per bottle. However, I can't find too much about it and about who makes it, as it seems as a small outfit and as such I have trouble trusting it 100%, especially when I am supposed to inject their stuff into MY body. www.liquidmuscle.com

There's a few other brands, but the above are the most well known. The other brands available, I personally would not trust since they come from very small outfits, so you don't know whether they are sterile or just mixed together in somebody's 'bathtub'.

Site oils can be used for two purposes - to increase the size of a muscle or to shape a muscle.

To increase size, lets use the biceps for example. You need to inject in EVERY head of the muscle, while rotating the shots daily within that head. This is the only way to ensure that the added size keeps to your natural look/shape of the muscle. The quickest way to get a muscle up to maximum size is to do the following regimen: 1ml for 10 days in each head of the muscle. 2ml for 10 days. 3ml for 10 days. If you do both, the biceps and triceps simultaneously, you can add up to 3" on your arms in those 30 days.
Now, this is VERY IMPORTANT!!!: you HAVE to massage the area that you just injected SEVERELLY! You have to make sure that there's no lump forming. The muscle should always be soft. You should NEVER have a lump. It is also a good idea, to inject just before going to the gym, so as soon as you get to the gym, you should do a couple light weight, high reps sets for that muscle, to get the blood moving. This again will minimise lump formation. You have to keep in mind, that as soon as lumps form because you did not massage, scar tissue will form as well. You want to avoid scar tissue at all costs. Also, to minimise scar tissue build up, use VERY small needles, like 25g or 26g, inch or 1inch long (depending on the injection site) and inject VERY slowly. If you find that you cannot keep with the lump build up, but you are due for another shot, wait until, by massaging, the lump goes away (it should not be more than a couple of days) and then resume from where you left off.

If you have all the size you wish and just want to shape the muscle, as adding a peak on the biceps, then inject the spot, in the peak of the muscle, with 1ml every day or every second day until you obtain the peak that you desire.

What I recommend to people that are just starting out using these oils is to use 1ml per head of muscle per day, or every second day, for a week or so and see how they react to it. That way they can judge how many ml they can use per muscle head and how often.

Where to inject - BICEPS - inner and outer head. You can feel the `split' in between the two heads of the biceps when you feel with your other hand. Inject on each side of that. If you want to increase the length/thickness of the bicep, inject more in the inner head (closer to your body). If you want to increase the peak, inject more in the outer head.

TRICEPS - You don't need to inject in the outer/horseshoe head, unless it is really lacking behind. You inject in the middle and rear heads of the triceps. Generally, at the back of your arm, the upper portion is the rear head and the lower portion is the middle head, as the two heads overlap each other somewhat.

DELTOIDS - just inject straight into whatever head is lacking in size.

CALVES - Natural calves, no matter how big the are, have a `flat' look to the muscle. So you want to keep that look, you don't want to have your calves looking round like someone stuck an air hose in there. So, you inject in multiple shots, on the outside edges of the muscle. That will make the calf go outwards, while keeping the flat, natural look.

QUADS - With muscles this large, you need to do multiple daily injections. Where in the biceps you use 1ml per head per day to begin with, on quads you need to start with 1ml per site, 7 sites per quad. That is to avoid the `lumpy' look and keep the quad uniform. Again, to keep the natural look of the thigh, you should inject in the `peak' of the outer quad, injecting along the crest. If the teardrop is lacking, then just inject straight into it, rotating sites daily. I personally don't recommend quad shots, especially teardrop, due to the very high amount of nerves in the area.

I strongly recommend that you get some anatomy charts and study the muscles and the nerves that are in the area that you want to inject.

How do Site Oils work? To begin with, they do not stay in the muscle for 3 to 5 years. They get dissipated within months. However, during this time, they have stretched the fascia of that muscle. The fascia is a great constrictive factor in muscle growth. The more stretched the fascia is the more the muscle will grow and the more it will have that `popping' look. Site oils stay in there long enough for the fascia to stretch. As they dissipate, the `space' left by them is replaced with new muscle tissue growth. That is the reason why when x-rays where performed on some of the people that have 25"+ arms, there was no oil found in there. The oil dissipated and it was replaced by real muscle.
The principle is the same as the one behind site shots with steroids, but it works at a much a larger degree, because the Site Oils take that much longer to dissipate.

Pain - obviously, any site shot hurts. The pain will minimise the more you inject, until it will not hurt any more. Site Oils hurt, but not as much as site injections with, lets say, Sustanon. However, as I said, they will hurt less and less the more you use them. I currently put all my Sustanon in my biceps and I get no pain what so ever because the biceps are used with having stuff injected in them.


Dangers - Site Oils are safe, if certain precautions are taken, same as when injecting anything else. You always have to aspirate. Always! You DO NOT want the oil to go in a vein. Always massage the area after the shot so scar tissue build up doesn't occur. And most importantly - USE COMMON SENSE! If you have 16" arms, don't think that you will have 23" in 5 weeks! Because if you try that, you will end up with deformed looking muscles and you will be the laughing stock of the world, like Greg Valentino. Site Oils are there to help you break past a plateau. If your genetics indicate that you are 242 with 5% bf, but you only have 18" arms, then Site Oils will help you bring your arms in proportion.
All that I am saying is that Site Oils are there to aid the work that you do in the gym, not replace it!
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 06 June 2005 15:29
I`ve been using the liver protectant for a week now and swear that i have more energy
and generaly just feel better , not that i had any pains or anything .
The B12 Injectable works , my appetite has definitely improved
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 09 June 2005 23:49
Question for Big A;

The SynthePURE whey protein isolate says that it has 96g per 100g of powder. Now when i went to the usage link and it said 'Mix two heaped tablespoons (30g) in your choice of water, milk, juice, etc.' Given the ratio, thats 29 grams of protein per glass. My whey protein gives me much more then that. I was wondering if it was 30g per spoon? Giving you a total of 58g per glass? i guess I'm just seeing if its worth it seeing how 2lb for $40 USD is slightly hefty when I can get a 5lb jug providing 32g/glass or shake for $15.

Definatly an amazing thread.

Thanks a lot guys, most questions i had about any of the products were answered right here.

Thanks much Big A and everyone who's participated thus far :)
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 10 June 2005 02:01


ORIGINAL: tza

Question for Big A;

The SynthePURE whey protein isolate says that it has 96g per 100g of powder. Now when i went to the usage link and it said 'Mix two heaped tablespoons (30g) in your choice of water, milk, juice, etc.' Given the ratio, thats 29 grams of protein per glass. My whey protein gives me much more then that. I was wondering if it was 30g per spoon? Giving you a total of 58g per glass? i guess I'm just seeing if its worth it seeing how 2lb for $40 USD is slightly hefty when I can get a 5lb jug providing 32g/glass or shake for $15.

Definatly an amazing thread.

Thanks a lot guys, most questions i had about any of the products were answered right here.

Thanks much Big A and everyone who's participated thus far :)
-tza




There's a few things 'wrong' in your calculations.
With SynthePURE you get 29g of protein out of 30g of powder. How can the other brand give you 32g of protein out of 30g of powder??
SynthePURE is pure cfm whey isolate. It contains nothing else at all, no additives, as such it's fluffy. So while it might take up more space (2 tablespoons) compared to other brands that are full of fillers as such they are not that fluffy, when you compare weight against weight, I bet that the brand that you have right now doesn't compare. Never mind comparing quiality of protein as well.
Tell me what the ingredients are on the label of your protein and also how much protein, carbs and fats do you get per 100g of powder, and then I can show you simply how they compare.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 10 June 2005 07:38
Everything was messured per scoop, so these might be a little off

The one that i currently use:
Total fat - 6.3g
Saturated fat 4.7g
Cholesterol 109 mg
Sodium 500 mg
Potasium 953 mg
Total Carbs 12.5 g
Protein 71.9 g

this forumla is definatly inferior on the protein side, i dont know the spec's of the other one.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 10 June 2005 08:20
Per 100g of product your powder has:
71.9g of protein
12.5g of carbs
6.3g of fat

Per 100g of SynthePURE, the ingredients are:
96g protein
0.8g carbs
0.3g fat

There's just simply no comparison without even mentioning the quality of proteins in each product.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 10 June 2005 16:49
Question for Big A
Is it necessary to dose the liver protectant every day or can i get away with E.O.D without limiting its performance too much ?
Its just that I`m getting fed up with injecting every day
Definitely feel better since i started using it though
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 11 June 2005 04:24


ORIGINAL: Dumbat

Question for Big A
Is it necessary to dose the liver protectant every day or can i get away with E.O.D without limiting its performance too much ?
Its just that I`m getting fed up with injecting every day
Definitely feel better since i started using it though


It's water based so you have to use it ED. But many people find that Synthergine is just as effective orally, so you can drink it.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 11 June 2005 11:44
Thanks Big A
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 11 June 2005 21:09


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There's just simply no comparison without even mentioning the quality of proteins in each product.


this is true but it tastes rank. Big An, what do you suggest you mix it with? I have been puttin it in a blender and mixing it with a banana and milk.Its really good but when i put it with milk and milkshake flavouring(crusha) and water and diluted juice its not that nice. Obviously its a good protein but i have to use a blender each time. I have started using another protein which is more easy to use and mix. and use pure in food and big(have time to spare) milkshakes. the amount u get in the spoon is not exact either cos its a heaped spoonful and not a measuring cup. anyway, on paper its good and suppose i still have a use for it.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 11 June 2005 21:25

ORIGINAL: tza

Question for Big A;

The SynthePURE whey protein isolate says that it has 96g per 100g of powder. Now when i went to the usage link and it said 'Mix two heaped tablespoons (30g)



dont understand. Was on ebay lookin at stuff and found this protein powder. Thot i would look at the label to see what ingredients there was and it says that 30g is same as 3 tablespoons. ?? kind of confused. even if it is heaped and other isnt, still bit vague.
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 12 June 2005 04:48


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ORIGINAL: Big A



There's just simply no comparison without even mentioning the quality of proteins in each product.


this is true but it tastes rank. Big An, what do you suggest you mix it with? I have been puttin it in a blender and mixing it with a banana and milk.Its really good but when i put it with milk and milkshake flavouring(crusha) and water and diluted juice its not that nice. Obviously its a good protein but i have to use a blender each time. I have started using another protein which is more easy to use and mix. and use pure in food and big(have time to spare) milkshakes. the amount u get in the spoon is not exact either cos its a heaped spoonful and not a measuring cup. anyway, on paper its good and suppose i still have a use for it.


Are you sure we are talking about the same product? SynthePURE is tasteless and it mixes instantly without a blender.
It's tasteless so you can add anything you wish to it and it takes on that flavour. Yu put it on orange juice or applejuice and you can't even tell it's there. I love it in applejuice, as i tmakes the juice clightly creamy in flavour.
My favourite is a teaspoon of Nutella in 500ml of water and the SynthePURE. Or two teaspoons of coffee, ice cubes and water with the SynthePURE - instant iced chocolate. Every time I make one of these shakes, people don't believe me that they are drinking protein powder and they make me make a new shake in front of them so they can see it.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 12 June 2005 04:50


ORIGINAL: bigbadben


ORIGINAL: tza

Question for Big A;

The SynthePURE whey protein isolate says that it has 96g per 100g of powder. Now when i went to the usage link and it said 'Mix two heaped tablespoons (30g)



dont understand. Was on ebay lookin at stuff and found this protein powder. Thot i would look at the label to see what ingredients there was and it says that 30g is same as 3 tablespoons. ?? kind of confused. even if it is heaped and other isnt, still bit vague.
ebay link
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That's why you don't judge the ingredients in a product from the serve size but from the amount of ingredients in 100g of product.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 13 June 2005 23:26
For those who were wondering if syntheBURN contains MaHuang.
I sent the following email to the USA provider:

Dear Sir or Madam,

I was looking at the synthetek web site and noticed that SyntheBURN contains MaHuang (ephedra), however below it states that Australian and UK versions do not have it, but nothing is listed for the USA. This leads me to believe that the usa 'version' does contain mahuang?
Thank you

This was the response i recieved:

Hello

SyntheBURN will contain MaHuang again in the short future. We will be updating our customers on our website as soon as it does.

Sincerely

Matt

Synthetek USA Sales

Email: salesusa@synthetek.com

So there is hope for MaHuang comming back to syntheBURN!

Big A, I'm going to get some synthepure, and if its tasteless like you say it is, that will definatly be my protein shake of choice. Some of these protein powders taste pretty damn sh!tty..

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 16 June 2005 15:42
Hi Big A, Im concerned with issues of sterility regarding Syntherol.

Ive used it before (quite some time ago) and despite what the site says, I still baked mine! Can you confirm that this really isnt needed, and that a bottle from the factory is indeed sterile (ie good to shoot?)???

Also I remember the top was a pain in the arse lol, as it hadnt been designed for Inj. use.
I had to remove the grey plastic insert, and glue a BD vial stopper in its place, then steralise the whole thing again.

Have Synthtek remedied this problem?, as I thinking of using again. if not, how do you use it mate?, as placing a pin through the top, leaves a hole.

Thanks mate
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 16 June 2005 16:37


ORIGINAL: tbip2001

Hi Big A, Im concerned with issues of sterility regarding Syntherol.

Ive used it before (quite some time ago) and despite what the site says, I still baked mine! Can you confirm that this really isnt needed, and that a bottle from the factory is indeed sterile (ie good to shoot?)???

Also I remember the top was a pain in the arse lol, as it hadnt been designed for Inj. use.
I had to remove the grey plastic insert, and glue a BD vial stopper in its place, then steralise the whole thing again.

Have Synthtek remedied this problem?, as I thinking of using again. if not, how do you use it mate?, as placing a pin through the top, leaves a hole.

Thanks mate
tbip2001


All of Synthetek's products are made by various pharma labs under contract. Syntherol itself is actually made by the largest lab in the world that makes products for most drug companies out there. Syntherol just like all the other products are 100% sterile and you don't need to bake them.

The top is a teflon multi use top. It looks the way it does so it doesn't raise 'suspicions' but it is a multi use top and you don't have to unscrew it or anything. And the top holds well to multiple punctures. It might not look like it from the top, but it's made of two layers, the bottom one of silicone which seals after every puncture, just like any normal rubber stopper.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 16 June 2005 20:46
Thanks for the quick reply Big A.

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 17 June 2005 16:06


ORIGINAL: ghostmaster

hi just wondered if you take this synthrol once you stop jabing your arms will they just go down to how they where before


If you follow my 'how to guide' to the letter, all the size will be permanent.
If you don't feel like going through all the pages of this thread to find it, here's a link to it:
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205

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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 17 June 2005 20:04
Big A, if someone wanted to only tempoarily increase the size of thier pecs (to give that constantly full pumped look), what inj regimew could be followed??

I was thinking of 6ml ed each pec, for 7 days??

How long would it take that oil to disipate once stopped??

Thanks again mate
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RE: SYNTHETEK PRODUCTS - 18 June 2005 02:52


ORIGINAL: tbip2001

Big A, if someone wanted to only tempoarily increase the size of thier pecs (to give that constantly full pumped look), what inj regimew could be followed??

I was thinking of 6ml ed each pec, for 7 days??

How long would it take that oil to disipate once stopped??

Thanks again mate
tbip2001


If youw ant to do it temporarily, yes that would work. BUt you need more shots per pec than that, like 9 per pec. That is because it's a 'flat' muscle so you have to life the entire muscle up at the same time otherwise it will look weird.
But why would you want to do it temporarily when to make it permanent is so easy?

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