S/drol or Cissus Droll?

Guys, have ben training for 20 years (since I was 15) an have tried various test boosters and pro hormones (Halodrol,axis ht,novadex xt) with very limited success. Although I dont want to go down the illicit route I would like to try something a bit stronger but keep my gains as dry as possible.
 
Any thoughts on Genetic edge SD or Cissus Droll..........as a bonus they are quite a bit cheaper than what I have taken before!  

I have been thinking about Genetic Edge Superdrol for my second cycle (have heard some good reports on it). Why not try something Like Epistane or Hdrol for some lean dry gains first off, I gained a good stone of lean mass on Hdrol (with a really big diet as well though). When you say Halodrol do you mean Gaspari Halodrol Liquigels, as I only found this out yesterday that they are not actually a PH (Like CEL Hdrol) and they would fit in the test booster category. So I guess you havent actually tried a proper PH if that is the case, so epistane or Hdrol might be your best starting option.

Yes,Gaspari Halodrol,I really didnt get much out of them at all.
 
Cel H/drol Looks like a good choice too,could be what I am looking for.

Yeahh I would definitely rate Hdrol for a first time cycle, can raise the old blood pressure slightly though, cant really comment on the Epi as I have never tried it, but loads of well informed guys in here rate it also. As far as PH's go hdrol is one of the milder and for "peace of mind" it may be your best starting option. Plenty of info on it and logs about cycles on the site.

Cissus Drol is a great product with solid reviews. Superdrol is obviously in a different league being in the prohormone catagory. Like designpump mentioned H-Drol or Epi is probably the best route to take.

Superdrol, take the plunge straight away, dont waste time with Epi or H-drol

IMO of course

Waste time with Epi and H-Drol? I'm sure many will disagree with that.

Thanks guys,think i may be going toward CEL H/drol with AI pct support. Does that sound decent? Concerned about the 30 days on then 90 days off advice.Seems like a long time off?

cant really compoare cissus drol and s-drol as they are 2 completely ddifferent products. cissus drol would be a good addition to a pct, but yeh S-drol is the daddy in terms of PH/DS.

AWG


Superdrol, take the plunge straight away, dont waste time with Epi or H-drol

IMO of course

Am on my first cycle at the moment (CEL H-Drol). Mid way through week 4 now.

Have gained 17lbs - yes, 17LBS!!! Shoulders and arms have never felt so huge. Back feels like its going to break through my skin! Took some pics yesterday and compared to before cycle and I look like 2 different people. I really can't believe the transformation.

Anyhoo...if this is a waste of time I can only begin to imagine what SD would do...perhaps I'd turn green too!?

Would defo reccomend H-Drol.

silly question mate, they're both at opposite ends of the spectrum.

superdrol is one of the best and strongest designer steroids.

cissusdrol is one of (in my opinion) the best natural testosterone booster out there.

i would suggest you go away and do a bit more research into your compounds, to get these two mixed up is a bit of a n00b mistake.  no offence but if you took SD thinking it were a t-booster you could mess yourself up and if you took CD thinking it were a strong methylated steroid then you'd be seriously disappointed and turn yourself fat from all the extra calories.

to answer your question tho, SD is the way forward if you want to notice big gains.  as mr.m says, use the CD in pct for gains support.

oh and the reason you may not have noticed much from other compounds (only halodrol is a designer steroid out of the list you mentioned) is possibly due to diet.  in order to notice anything you need your diet and sleep in check.  for diet help you can start by looking on the relevant forums on muscletalk.  maximuscle also have a good meal planner section on their website (about the only thing the entire company is good for!).

good luck!

rokkus3

i would suggest you go away

Harsh!

rokkus3


silly question mate, they're both at opposite ends of the spectrum.

superdrol is one of the best and strongest designer steroids.

cissusdrol is one of (in my opinion) the best natural testosterone booster out there.

i would suggest you go away and do a bit more research into your compounds, to get these two mixed up is a bit of a n00b mistake.  no offence but if you took SD thinking it were a t-booster you could mess yourself up and if you took CD thinking it were a strong methylated steroid then you'd be seriously disappointed and turn yourself fat from all the extra calories.

to answer your question tho, SD is the way forward if you want to notice big gains.  as mr.m says, use the CD in pct for gains support.

oh and the reason you may not have noticed much from other compounds (only halodrol is a designer steroid out of the list you mentioned) is possibly due to diet.  in order to notice anything you need your diet and sleep in check.  for diet help you can start by looking on the relevant forums on muscletalk.  maximuscle also have a good meal planner section on their website (about the only thing the entire company is good for!).

good luck!

It's replies like this that keep people off forums,do you think after 20 years of training I might have an idea about diet?
 
At no point did I differentiate between test booster or pro hormone (Stupid reply,not stupid question).
 
I only asked opinion about 2 products that I knew nothing about.

Undecided:

You mention running PH and AI Cycle Support - what did you have in mind for PCT as your PH choice could also be determined by if you only want to go OTC for PCT.

20 Years training, are you saying you have had limited results over the whole 20 years? If so what is your height weight and natural bodyshape and how do you train also - not going to preach routeins at you as in that time I am sure you have read, searched and tried everything out there.

I ask as I can sympathise, I find muscle very hard to come by and from a comparitive view point in respect of time training, effort made etc to visible results have had limited success but I know my genetics and accept that my body does not allow this to come naturally and have found a few ways to shift things more in my favour more recently.

Undecided

rokkus3


silly question mate, they're both at opposite ends of the spectrum.

superdrol is one of the best and strongest designer steroids.

cissusdrol is one of (in my opinion) the best natural testosterone booster out there.

i would suggest you go away and do a bit more research into your compounds, to get these two mixed up is a bit of a n00b mistake.  no offence but if you took SD thinking it were a t-booster you could mess yourself up and if you took CD thinking it were a strong methylated steroid then you'd be seriously disappointed and turn yourself fat from all the extra calories.

to answer your question tho, SD is the way forward if you want to notice big gains.  as mr.m says, use the CD in pct for gains support.

oh and the reason you may not have noticed much from other compounds (only halodrol is a designer steroid out of the list you mentioned) is possibly due to diet.  in order to notice anything you need your diet and sleep in check.  for diet help you can start by looking on the relevant forums on muscletalk.  maximuscle also have a good meal planner section on their website (about the only thing the entire company is good for!).

good luck!

It's replies like this that keep people off forums,do you think after 20 years of training I might have an idea about diet?
 
At no point did I differentiate between test booster or pro hormone (Stupid reply,not stupid question).
 
I only asked opinion about 2 products that I knew nothing about.

 
people who ask silly questions or who can't be bothered to do their own research and would rather have other people do it for them should stay away from forums in the first place!
 
look i answered your question, don't take offence if i point out some truths that you don't like hearing.  i was in no way wanting to upset you but if somehow i did then i suggest you stop trying at male orientated activities such as weight lifting and go find yourself something a lot more suited to your sensitive disposition.
 
if you only had 'limited success' from h-drol then something was wrong with with either your training, diet or rest!  after 20 years of lifting weights i assumed that it would have been your diet that was lacking, quiet simply because it is easy to undereat on gear especially if you don't know a lot about what you are taking.
 
if you have had 'limited success' in general over 20 years of lifting weights then i suggest that there's fundamental problems with your entire understanding of weights training.
 

Undecided
At no point did I differentiate between test booster or pro hormone

what do you think your thread is titled????

Undecided
S/drol or Cissus Droll?

why don't you go have a pop at mr.m?  he told you the same as i did, i just elaborated.
 
a simple check of a supplement site like musclefinesse would have summarised the two products for you and negated all this time wasting.
 
the last bit of advice i will ever offer you is to go pull your head out of your arse and don't bother asking any more stupid questions without doing a bit of your own groundwork!

rokkus3

Undecided

rokkus3


silly question mate, they're both at opposite ends of the spectrum.

superdrol is one of the best and strongest designer steroids.

cissusdrol is one of (in my opinion) the best natural testosterone booster out there.

i would suggest you go away and do a bit more research into your compounds, to get these two mixed up is a bit of a n00b mistake.  no offence but if you took SD thinking it were a t-booster you could mess yourself up and if you took CD thinking it were a strong methylated steroid then you'd be seriously disappointed and turn yourself fat from all the extra calories.

to answer your question tho, SD is the way forward if you want to notice big gains.  as mr.m says, use the CD in pct for gains support.

oh and the reason you may not have noticed much from other compounds (only halodrol is a designer steroid out of the list you mentioned) is possibly due to diet.  in order to notice anything you need your diet and sleep in check.  for diet help you can start by looking on the relevant forums on muscletalk.  maximuscle also have a good meal planner section on their website (about the only thing the entire company is good for!).

good luck!

It's replies like this that keep people off forums,do you think after 20 years of training I might have an idea about diet?
 
At no point did I differentiate between test booster or pro hormone (Stupid reply,not stupid question).
 
I only asked opinion about 2 products that I knew nothing about.

Wow! where do I start with this reply???!!!
 
people who ask silly questions or who can't be bothered to do their own research and would rather have other people do it for them should stay away from forums in the first place!
 
This is a forum where questions can be asked,if you find the topic or question beneath you then simply dont reply,your assertion about wasting time while you reply to my question is truly the definition of irony!! 
 
look i answered your question, don't take offence if i point out some truths that you don't like hearing.
 
And what truths are they? you made assumptions about my diet and training,2 subjects of which you know nothing! 
 
 
stop trying at male orientated activities such as weight lifting and go find yourself something a lot more suited to your sensitive disposition.
 
Male orientated??? I am sure the female members of this board would be delighted about this utterly unjustifiable sexism. 
 
if you only had 'limited success' from h-drol then something was wrong with with either your training, diet or rest!  after 20 years of lifting weights i assumed that it would have been your diet that was lacking, quiet simply because it is easy to undereat on gear especially if you don't know a lot about what you are taking.
 
if you have had 'limited success' in general over 20 years of lifting weights then i suggest that there's fundamental problems with your entire understanding of weights training.
 
Another rediculous assumption,at no time did I say I had limited success in general,just limited success with the supps I had tried to date (P.s limited does not mean none) 
 

Undecided
At no point did I differentiate between test booster or pro hormone

what do you think your thread is titled????

Undecided
S/drol or Cissus Droll?

why don't you go have a pop at mr.m?  he told you the same as i did, i just elaborated.
 
The tone of Mr M's message was not was nothing like your message which was clearly designed to offend (and if it was not then you are simply house-brick ignorant,neither of which does you any credit)  
 
a simple check of a supplement site like musclefinesse would have summarised the two produceninely ts for you and negated all this time wasting.
 
Muscle Finnesse do not provide an opinion which was what I asked for,genius.
 
the last bit of advice i will ever offer you is to go pull your head out of your arse and don't bother asking any more stupid questions without doing a bit of your own groundwork!

The final insult which speaks absolute volumes about you,intelligent people would be thouroghly embarrassed to use a phrase such as "Pull you head out of your arse"
 
Really poor,Rokkus3,I am genuinely sorry for you that you willingly expose your shortcomings in such a public forum.
 
Thanks to everyone else though
 

haha... are you really 35 years old??

i cannot be bothered to waste any more of my time with you.  you just continue with your 'very limited success' mate.

Very funny indeed!

All of my testosterone based threads of discussion always seem to end in an argument. i guess it means your testosterone levels are high therefore your products are working ha ha

just a thought.

So to confirm then
...

Is Cissus Drol a product that will give results on hard training and a good diet?

Could i stack with DAA?

Strong Bump.
 
Don't think you'll find cissus drol on sale anywhere these days. Generic Labz shut up shop a long time ago if im not mistaken.
 
Can get 6 bromo standalone or stack DAA with another testbooster like hcgenrate, bioforge etc.

Think it long gone - only chance might be ebay