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Shoulder Problems 05 August 2011 02:00 (permalink)
Not trained in over a month now due to shoulder pain. I went to the doctors who told me to rest it and take ibuprofen. I've always suffered with niggling shoulder pain in the past but this is beyond a joke now. I cant really rest it as i work in construction, so where do i go from here???
 
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    Re:Shoulder Problems 05 August 2011 18:14 (permalink)
    ive got a similar problem. ive always had a laxed left shoulder and after 10 years of rugby it got worse. after that it always felt weak. ive had mri's and two injections in it. last spring i made another attempt at a comeback in the gym and hurt my ac joint. i rested it for months and months, it seemed to make it worse. 2 months ago i started doing press ups pain free, i then started benching but only on a machine. it still hurts, but **** it.
    i also swim 4 km per week, its supposed to help it. you need to get a really good physio to look at it, you might have damaged something like me. i was on diclofenac for swelling, its better than ibuprofen.
    so, see a physio asap, rest it, swim gently if its ok, try ice. avoid anything that makes it hurt, you might make it worse.
     
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      Re:Shoulder Problems 06 August 2011 18:13 (permalink)
      I have a winged shoulder some thing very similar to what you have and every few months i have a remedial massage at a osteopathic clinic. Costs £33 per hour and 1 hour seems to sort it for a few months.
       
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        Re:Shoulder Problems 06 August 2011 20:28 (permalink)
        yes its the same thing. if you do side raises does your shoulder move about?
         
        how did you get it ?
         
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          Re:Shoulder Problems 07 August 2011 13:38 (permalink)
          Yeah the shoulder moves and clicks and makes all sort of funny noises, i dont know how i got it probably playing football when i was younger. I really struggle with decents weights when doing side and front raises.
           
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            Re:Shoulder Problems 07 August 2011 17:34 (permalink)
            i swim now, thats should build up the rotator cuff. ive done physio on and off for years on the shoulder, i think the swimming is helping. plus its good cardio and works your whole body.
            it might be worth thinking about.
             
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              Re:Shoulder Problems 09 August 2011 22:51 (permalink)
              ianr


              Not trained in over a month now due to shoulder pain. I went to the doctors who told me to rest it and take ibuprofen. I've always suffered with niggling shoulder pain in the past but this is beyond a joke now. I cant really rest it as i work in construction, so where do i go from here???
              There are some simple exercises to put this right if the pain is muscular.
              Lying on a bench on your side reach down to the floor across your chest (as though drawing a bow) holding a can of beer or coke, draw the bow motion from floor close to the chest up as far as you can, if it's to heavy use no weight to start, do this 10 times each side at first and build up too 20.
              Follow this with: lying on your side on a bench holding your can straight armed and out parallel, then lower towards the floor as far as you can and raise back up, again if the can it too heavy just do the motion, start with a few or 10 work up to 20 each arm.
              Do this every day if more resistance can be added then add it, till you can use a small dumbbell.
              You will quickly regain your movement without pain once this is achieved move the exercises too very light bent arm side lateral raises pulleys preferably because the resistance is more constant, single arm if you can as you can focus on the area better, couple this with light rear head dumbbell raises whilst lying face down on a bench, use bent arms and don't try to raise to high.
              Build up to one set of 20 reps a day. In one month you will see great returns but go slow on the weight, the weight is not the criteria it's the movements.
              Good luck it works. 
               
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                Re:Shoulder Problems 10 August 2011 11:20 (permalink)
                Thanks Johnny thats the kind of thing i was looking for. I'll start it tonight with no weight and work up slowly for a month like you suggest. Chees mate...
                 
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                  Re:Shoulder Problems 10 August 2011 11:20 (permalink)
                  Thanks Johnny thats the kind of thing i was looking for. I'll start it tonight with no weight and work up slowly for a month like you suggest. Chees mate...
                   
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                    Re:Shoulder Problems 03 September 2011 01:31 (permalink)
                    Cissus Quadrangularis powder!
                    CISSUS IS AN EXTRACT OF ONLY THE CRUCIAL KETOSTERONES THAT HELP ELIMINATE JOINT PAIN, SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE CORTISOL AND INCREASE ANABOLISM THROUGH EXTREMELY POWERFUL ANTI-CATABOLIC PROPERTIES!
                    Cissus is very dark and dirty, containing impurities and parts
                    of the herb cissus quadrangularis are useless to you. But, the ultra-pure, pharmaceutical-grade is clean and lighter in colour.
                    Just make sure you don't get ripped off. You want to be looking at a supplement company that offer at least 11% Cissus Quadrangularis powder. I know a company (and no, I don't work for them) but not sure if I'm allowed to mention names re advertising? (I'm new on here and this is my 1st posting). I have suffered for years re shoulder/joint pain and tried many different remedies. Cissus Quadrangularis is the real deal (for me). However it's not cheap but worth the money!
                     Hope this helps you lot with shoulder (joint) problems?
                     
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                      Re:Shoulder Problems 03 September 2011 01:36 (permalink)

                      <message edited by Sciatic on 03 September 2011 01:39>
                       
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                        Re:Shoulder Problems 04 October 2011 09:01 (permalink)
                        ianr


                        Thanks Johnny thats the kind of thing i was looking for. I'll start it tonight with no weight and work up slowly for a month like you suggest. Chees mate...
                         SO any improvements?.

                         
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                          Re:Shoulder Problems 16 December 2011 13:35 (permalink)
                          Sorry Jonny been working away last couple of months.
                          Followed your advice and saw a vast improvement. Im training again but with lighter weights and a lot slower and stricter form. Im not totally pain free, cant do dips anymore and barbell curls are out aswell but i can train around these. Thanks mate really helped a brother out...
                           
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                            Re:Shoulder Problems 16 December 2011 15:16 (permalink)
                            ianr


                            Sorry Jonny been working away last couple of months.
                            Followed your advice and saw a vast improvement. Im training again but with lighter weights and a lot slower and stricter form. Im not totally pain free, cant do dips anymore and barbell curls are out aswell but i can train around these. Thanks mate really helped a brother out...
                            IF you have access to Pulleys then this will help.
                            Side Lateral raises Single Arm Pulley, very light weight to start even just the empty pulley M/C.
                            Using bent arms from the front groin area raise till parallel with collar bone and lower, 12/15 reps per arm.
                            One set Once per day for 1 week , then drop it into the shoulder workout adding very small amounts of weight (IF POSSIBLE) each week.
                            It will take about 6/12 months to handle weight of any meaning but thats not the idea.
                            Try it and see. 
                             
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                              Re:Shoulder Problems 20 December 2011 16:35 (permalink)
                              Im already doing cable side raises mate, with a very light weight and very slow and strict.
                              Im not worried about the weights anymore, it makes me cringe now when i see the young lads in the gym throwing the bar allover the place. Took me a long time to realise it but form is more important than ego...
                               
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                                Re:Shoulder Problems 20 December 2011 16:38 (permalink)
                                ianr


                                Im already doing cable side raises mate, with a very light weight and very slow and strict.
                                Im not worried about the weights anymore, it makes me cringe now when i see the young lads in the gym throwing the bar allover the place. Took me a long time to realise it but form is more important than ego...
                                Good news, it takes a long time to realise "Weight is not what weight training is all about"
                                Happy Xmas
                                 
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                                  Re:Shoulder Problems 28 December 2011 23:10 (permalink)
                                  dont know if this is any help, i had a real bad shoulder problem, doctors no use as you would expect. Went to my osteopath and i had move my C2 and C3.  He clicked my back back into place, shoulder problem all gone. This is a re-occuring issue that i have now im getting older every 10 weeks or so.
                                  If your not living on the edge.......your taking up too much room!
                                   
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                                    Re:Shoulder Problems 15 May 2012 11:24 (permalink)
                                    same here... for a year
                                     
                                    started doing rear delt work every session. Also dropped all my weights down to 50% of my max at high reps to failure.
                                     
                                    2 months on and shoulder is almost completely back to normal now
                                     
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                                      Re:Shoulder Problems 21 May 2012 14:45 (permalink)
                                      A combination of the above. A lot of shoulder pain comes from disproportionately building the different shoulder muscles eg with me I over developed the front and side (vanity) heads and neglected rear delt which meant that every time the should moved it was doing so through and unnatural angle/range of motion. Also I have always been stronger on press movements so my chest pulled my shoulders forward making the situation more pronounced. I got to the point where just lifting my arms above my head nearly brought tears to my eyes! (tough, huh?!) 
                                      My martial arts instructor pointed me to the cables and got me to focus on tiny weight, high rep (15-20) cable exercises, starting with rear delt and s couple of front dealt but both performed with upper arm against your side, lower arm at 90 degrees and pulling the cable across your body laterally using only the shoulder. Not lateral raises, which cause too much "pinging" of inflamed tendons and muscle tissue.
                                      In addition I took high grade Cissus (not bulk although it works for some) at grams a day and after 1 month my shoulders were about 75% recovered. Is still take it easy with shoulders and alternate heavy (ie shoulder press) with high rep cable workouts and my shoulders look better for it.
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