Sick being insulted! (Too Skinny) Need help! :(

Some good advice here. I just want to add: stick to it! like others have said it takes time but you will see results. Once you've been to the gym a few times too, you'll realise there was really nothing to worry about either :)

I just read rippetoes workout and its a nice easy to understand routine! :D
 
Monday - Workout A
Wednesday -Workout B
Friday - Workout A

Week 2:
Monday - Workout B
Wednesday - Workout A
Friday - Workout B
 
Workout A
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press
1x5 Deadlift
2x5-8 dips (only add weight if you are doing >10 bodyweight dips)

Workout B
3x5 Squat
3x5 Standing military press
3x5 Pendlay Rows (or power cleans for 5x3, 5 sets of 3 reps apiece)
2x5-8 chinups ***if you do the power cleans, do 3 sets of chinups***

Fridays only (Not earlier than 3 weeks into program) -
Parallel Bar dips or incline skullcrushers - 2 x 8-12
barbell/DB/EZ-Bar curls - 2 x 8-12
 
 
Next thursdays when I get paid so i'll start the gym then! I'll just go in and start with this routine! :)

So basically I would walk into the gym on monday and do...
 
 
 
3x5 Squat      (1x5squat + breather + 1x5squat + breather + 1x5squat + breather)
3x5 Bench Press  (1x5Bench + breather + 1x5Bench + breather + 1x5Bench + breather)
1x5 Deadlift   (1x5Deadlift + breather)
2x5-8 dips   ( 1x8Dips + Breather + 1x8Dips + Breather)
 
 
 
All of that would take about 2 hours or something? And I would be verrrrry tired after that yeah? :P
 

KnuckleB


So basically I would walk into the gym on monday and do...
 
 
 
3x5 Squat      (1x5squat + breather + 1x5squat + breather + 1x5squat + breather)
3x5 Bench Press  (1x5Bench + breather + 1x5Bench + breather + 1x5Bench + breather)
1x5 Deadlift   (1x5Deadlift + breather)
2x5-8 dips   ( 1x8Dips + Breather + 1x8Dips + Breather)
 
 
 
All of that would take about 2 hours or something? And I would be verrrrry tired after that yeah? :P
 

Yep bang on!

Rippetoe's is by far the best routine for a beginner and is also one of the easiest to learn.

Should definitely take you less than 1 hour, took me around 40 mins a session.

The day after is when you will feel the full impact of the routine (DOMS Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness), if you need to walk up stairs good luck!

Don't go into the routine too hard, it should take a few sessions just to gauge the weight for each exercise. Add the weight onto your phone for each exercise so you can revert back to it for your next session. Have a look here http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/ and make sure you learn each exercise perfectly and make sure your posture and form is correct (bad form is the no1 cause of injury).

Also it might be a good idea to post up your diet so we can take a look, you don't grow in the gym.

I'll post my diet later as im late for college :P But I just ate a nice 3 egg cheese and ham omelette! I wondering, if my muscles are still very sore from a previous workout and it comes to the next day and im supposed to be working on that muscle do I just take the pain or miss it out?

now obviously i know nothing about weight training compared to most on here and mr riptoe, but why such low reps at the begining? Surely the OP is going to go in the gym lift as heavy as he can and potentially inure himself as none of the ligaments or tendons are conditioned to lifting anything....

The way i was always told, was to go very light and very high reps to begin with for a month or to, then look to bring it down to the lower reps, once the body has become acustomed to lifting some weight.

Like i said im not saying anything is wrong, just comparing it to what i was told :)

Thats probably true. I was doing dumbell squats two days ago and my thighs are still hurting from it. Like to the point I cant actually do squats.

KnuckleB


Thats probably true. I was doing dumbell squats two days ago and my thighs are still hurting from it. Like to the point I cant actually do squats.

DOMS will eventually phase out once your body gets used to the exercise's. Squats are the killer so i would carry on with the routine but perhaps miss out squats on your next session. Enjoy them whilst they last.

theITman


now obviously i know nothing about weight training compared to most on here and mr riptoe, but why such low reps at the begining? Surely the OP is going to go in the gym lift as heavy as he can and potentially inure himself as none of the ligaments or tendons are conditioned to lifting anything....

The way i was always told, was to go very light and very high reps to begin with for a month or to, then look to bring it down to the lower reps, once the body has become acustomed to lifting some weight.

Like i said im not saying anything is wrong, just comparing it to what i was told :)

I agree that a beginner going in too hard early on can result in injury however this is only down to inexperience. If correct form with warm-up sets are used i don't see any problems tbh.

You should consider starting a journal on here too.  A great way for you to refer back to previous workouts, inspire yourself and who knows, maybe further down the line, you could be inspiring someone who is in your position now.

Eat. Sleep. Work out.

Dont be afraid to throw a decent weight gain shake into the mix once or twice a day to help push the calories up.

I'd be interested in following your progress if u did a journal, and i'm sure plenty of others would be too.

well I am 5 ft 10 and only weigh 8 stone 3 and have been having exactly the same problem as knuckle B like friends taking the mick and stuff and just need to put some weight on and bulk up a bit

sam g


well I am 5 ft 10 and only weigh 8 stone 3 and have been having exactly the same problem as knuckle B like friends taking the mick and stuff and just need to put some weight on and bulk up a bit

I would suggest following the advice on this thread and start with Rippetoe's routine and post your diet up so we can take a look.

theITman


now obviously i know nothing about weight training compared to most on here and mr riptoe, but why such low reps at the begining? Surely the OP is going to go in the gym lift as heavy as he can and potentially inure himself as none of the ligaments or tendons are conditioned to lifting anything....

The way i was always told, was to go very light and very high reps to begin with for a month or to, then look to bring it down to the lower reps, once the body has become acustomed to lifting some weight.

Like i said im not saying anything is wrong, just comparing it to what i was told :)

I dunno I don't think it really matters about the rep range that much because you're always going to be lifting as heavy as you can in a given rep range. When I started going to the gym I started out with 3x8 on all exercises, as heavy as I could go within that rep range. I didn't have any problems, and 8 reps isn't that many more than 5! As long as your form is good I can't really envisage any problems! Sure practice with light weight until you are happy that your form is correct, then add weight. But I can't see any point in just lifting really light weights for a month, it'd just be a waste of a month imo. Your muscles won't explode and get so strong in a month that the weights they can handle will be too much for your joints, your joints will get stronger as well, albeit a bit slower.

And remember just because you haven't been weight training before, doesn't mean your body isn't accustomed to lifting weight! We were built for this stuff! And assuming the OP hasn't been completely sedentary his whole life I'm guessing he's lifted some heavy stuff from time to time!

(That last bit may come across as sarcastic but it's not meant to be!)

KnuckleB


Thats probably true. I was doing dumbell squats two days ago and my thighs are still hurting from it. Like to the point I cant actually do squats.

That's different, that's just DOMS (Delayed onset muscle soreness), it happens for a few days after heavy weight training, and it will be particularly bad if you are coming back to weights after some time off, or if you have never done them before.

It's unlikely that you will be able to squat with heavy enough weight yet (especially with dumbbells!) to do any sort of tendon/joint damage at this stage!

CitizenKane

theITman


now obviously i know nothing about weight training compared to most on here and mr riptoe, but why such low reps at the begining? Surely the OP is going to go in the gym lift as heavy as he can and potentially inure himself as none of the ligaments or tendons are conditioned to lifting anything....

The way i was always told, was to go very light and very high reps to begin with for a month or to, then look to bring it down to the lower reps, once the body has become acustomed to lifting some weight.

Like i said im not saying anything is wrong, just comparing it to what i was told :)

I dunno I don't think it really matters about the rep range that much because you're always going to be lifting as heavy as you can in a given rep range. When I started going to the gym I started out with 3x8 on all exercises, as heavy as I could go within that rep range. I didn't have any problems, and 8 reps isn't that many more than 5! As long as your form is good I can't really envisage any problems! Sure practice with light weight until you are happy that your form is correct, then add weight. But I can't see any point in just lifting really light weights for a month, it'd just be a waste of a month imo. Your muscles won't explode and get so strong in a month that the weights they can handle will be too much for your joints, your joints will get stronger as well, albeit a bit slower.

And remember just because you haven't been weight training before, doesn't mean your body isn't accustomed to lifting weight! We were built for this stuff! And assuming the OP hasn't been completely sedentary his whole life I'm guessing he's lifted some heavy stuff from time to time!

(That last bit may come across as sarcastic but it's not meant to be!)

Cool Ck thats all good points mate, just was interested as i was told keep it light for a month or two before lifting my max for a lower ammount of reps. I guess folks just have differnt ways of doing things
 
cheers

KnuckleB


Emm i'm like 6ft 2, and about 120pounds. The fact im so tall makes me look skinnier aswell. So your saying I should just eat whatever I can get my hands on and not really worry about if its healthy or not?

At 17 I was 6'4 and 140 pounds. At 21 I was 270 pounds.  


Plenty of routines listed here. Get in the gym, stick with it and eat anything that doesn't move faster than you do. 

Just wanted to add my 2 cents, as your post sound like me a few years back.  Didn't like wearing T-shirts and didn't want to go to the gym because i thought i looked too thin to go.  It annoys the frig out of me when people call me or other people skinny etc.... like its acceptable.

What I did was to buy a pretty cheap fold up weights bench, and some weights so I could train at home.  I read up on the beginners forum to get a good idea of a routine, bought some whey protein from myprotein.co.uk to drink after a workout and some mornings.  I ate pretty normally, but tried to get in some extra protein where possible, but nothing mad.  By doing this I saw some gains I was happy with.  Put on about 2 stone.

One thing you may not realise at the moment is that you are lucky with your physique.  People really struggle with keeping fat off, especially around the belly.  The most important thing is to not get over confused about routines, because there is no correct way.  It will take you about 15mins to read through this: http://www.muscletalk.c...g-See-here-m3672096.aspx and its good solid advice thats easy to read.

Look at this website: http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

Learn the correct form in lifting the weights even if you have to start with 2kg!

Just stick at it, you will feel soooo much better once you start getting into a routine :)

mate i was the same build as you a few years ago, albiet 5'7ish, eat as much, as often and as healthy as you can, and add some calorie dense drinks in after too, i bought some ultra fine oats from myprotein, 2 big scoops, with 2 of a protein powder, with 400ml water gives me 600 quality cals

3 times a day will add 1800 cals to your daily intake

Right im back! I had to postpone going to the gym due to my rubbish wage! :( Im getting paid about £130 on thursday which google tells me is the equivalent of $195. Ive been looking on MyProtein.co.uk and im not too sure what I should buy.
 
I had a look myself and was considering buying this:-
 
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/mp-max/weight-gain/total-gainer-%286lb%29/
 
But i've got a friend who started the gym about two years ago and hes telling me to buy this:-
 
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/impact-whey-protein/
 
What one should I go for? Also should I buy creatine right off the bat or should I wait a few weeks/months?

Take a look at this post mate for weight gainers... best mass/weight gainer it's just a question that I came up with a few answers recently along the lines of what you're asking.

Basically though, I've tried several weight gain/meal replacement products and while they mostly do their job, I prefer now to make up my own as I go along.

The ingredients look pretty good in that MP weight gainer. It would be okay to use as a PWO shake too.

I would, however, buy unflavoured impact whey and some ultra fine oats. tbh, it is more of an initial cost, but I think, if you have room for storage it's worth buying the 5kg of each. This would set you back about £45 but... I had this order just before Christmas and only had to reorder some stuff last week. You will, of course, need tubs with these products as they come in bags. The bags will keep the powders dry but I'm not sure they will last long if you go in them every day for a scoop's worth. That might be a little of £50 for the order, so if this is too much, you could go for smaller potions to see if you can get on with it.

And don't forget a shaker if you don't have one. I have both types and would say the one with a whisk inside is best but only because it's easier to clean, they both blend pretty well.

Creatine. It's up to you really. It isn't too expensive. I started training for a few months before I tried it. It isn't necessary though and I'd say for 4 months at least jusst spend the extra tenner or so on extra food.

PS if you do buy just the impact whey with a flavour or w/e, if you have a blender, you can add normal porridge oats if you blend the oats first it's not too bad. Also, weetabix works, it doesn't taste as nice though.