Spirodex & Phenorex

Can you take spirodex and Phenorex together?

I've never really looked into it, it's not for me but my better half.

Hi mate,
 
no not really, as they both contain caffeine and are both stimulant/thermogenic products
 
 

Thanks Daz!

Daz, what is the actual difference between the 2 please?

The_Lone_Wolf


Daz, what is the actual difference between the 2 please?

they are quite similar products in many ways. and do contain some common ingredients.  Spirodex contains a stronger stimulant and neurotransmitor replicators, and is designed to give a stronger mood enhancement, and appetite supression, without feeling like a strong stimulant.  Phenorex contains thyroid hormone metabolites 3.3 and 3.5, that should boost your bodys own production of t3, and should be the slightly stronger thermogenic of the two.  Phenorex contains more caffeine and B vitamins to counter lethargy that can occur with higher.
 
spirodex definately isnt legal for drug tested athletes because of the geranium extract, im not sure about phenorex.
 
so, spirodex is more biased towards mood enhancement and energy, phenorex is more biased towards 'fat burning'.
 
you would notice you were taking spirodex more than you would phenorex, in how you feel.
 
ive heard good reports from people cycling the two, or using a spirodex in the morning, and a phenorex around lunchtime rather than two doses of phenorex, but you wouldnt take both products at the same. well you could, and ive heard of people doing that, but its not the recommended use!

Thanks once again Daz!

No worries mate!  If you other half uses both, id love some feedback please on how she found them, and the differences between the two.  Everyone is different with these types of products, so it really helps me to hear user experiences good or bad!
 
Steal a couple of spirodex off her and try them... ;-)  lol!

We have phenorex already and the spirodex have been ordered!
 
Ill do a side by side comparison next week and report back :)

 
Daz what would the reccomendation be if someone was using thyroid medication to supplement an underactive thyroid?
 
My wife supplements with Coleus Forskohlii and this had a very positive effect on her thyroid function rather than simply using the thryoid medication by itself.
 
Obviously you may not be able answer this but if it interacts with the thyroid as you indicate some research may have been done you can get access to etc.
 
Appreciated :)
 

mick_the_brick
 

 
Daz what would the reccomendation be if someone was using thyroid medication to supplement an underactive thyroid?

My wife supplements with Coleus Forskohlii and this had a very positive effect on her thyroid function rather than simply using the thryoid medication by itself.

Obviously you may not be able answer this but if it interacts with the thyroid as you indicate some research may have been done you can get access to etc.

Appreciated :)

 
I think it would have to be avoid using stimulants to be on the safe side so i wouldnt want to recommend phenorex, but ill see what we have with regards the 3.3. and 3.5 components of phenorex, if i can get them they may be of use to you.
 
I suppose the other thing would be why shes throid deficient, is it a TRH, TSH deficiency, a somatostatin issue or a thyroid sensitivity/production problem? 
 
Off the top of my head, i cant remember the mode of action the thyroid components in phenorex take.

dazc

mick_the_brick
 


Daz what would the reccomendation be if someone was using thyroid medication to supplement an underactive thyroid?

My wife supplements with Coleus Forskohlii and this had a very positive effect on her thyroid function rather than simply using the thryoid medication by itself.

Obviously you may not be able answer this but if it interacts with the thyroid as you indicate some research may have been done you can get access to etc.

Appreciated :)

I think it would have to be avoid using stimulants to be on the safe side so i wouldnt want to recommend phenorex, but ill see what we have with regards the 3.3. and 3.5 components of phenorex, if i can get them they may be of use to you.

I suppose the other thing would be why shes throid deficient, is it a TRH, TSH deficiency, a somatostatin issue or a thyroid sensitivity/production problem? 

Off the top of my head, i cant remember the mode of action the thyroid components in phenorex take.

Thanks for the reply mate Daz.

Basically since the birth of our 2nd child her thyroid shut down and never started up.. it's quite common to have some thyroid issues following the birth but her unfortunately never started up.  Thyroid output of 0.
 
Hence the use of medication to get things moving along.
 
Any info you can provide will be of use - the difference in my wife's life since the introduction of the POM and then the Coleus Forskohlii has made night and day difference to all of us.
 
If further tweeks can be made with other supps - then I'm all ears.

 
Bumpy bump bump :)

j55ttc


Can you take spirodex and Phenorex together?

I've never really looked into it, it's not for me but my better half.

 
Has she started using phenorex yet? my other half wants me to get it for her this week
 
Second(and last) child, she looking for a bit of a boost. I think its more of a mental thing for her with 'fat burner'.

 
Last bump - in hope of a response :)

I'll speak to Gaspari and get a response for you Mick.

 
Thanks Papa - I know Daz is on the case mate :)

I'm sorry chaps, the last couple of weeks have been hectic beyond belief! After a lot of aggravation we have finally exchanged contracts on a house we are buying :D
 
I have tried both and they do effect you quite differently...
 
Spirodex: I feel with this product your energy comes from just feeling great. I took one about an hour before a run and it was a pretty average run. However I found myself with this sort of "skipping through the park" without a care in the world sort of feeling. This lasted for a few hours afterwards where generally I was just very happy. More of an enthusiasm for life kind of buzz rather than a chemically induced one. My wife reported a similar experience but was a little disappointed that there was no rush of energy but there's no crash either.
 
Phenorex: Ive been using this on and off for ages and its nothing but what seems to be a chemically induced high. This is great for fasted cardio - pop 3 caps and half an hour later you're raring to go. This also lasts for a few hours afterwards with no noticeable "crash" of energy. An hours cardio is a breeze and you find yourself wanting to play air guitar at every opportunity, (difficult on a tri bike & turbo trainer) and head bang to all your favorite rock tunes. I often wake up and dread the thought of fasted cardio but after the phenorex is in the system you're good to go. I'm not taking it every day but in the last 2 1/2 weeks on restricted calories and fasted cardio 4-5 days a week Ive lost 3 1/2 kilograms. It also seems that your body doesn't build up a resistance to phenorex as quickly as a lot of the pre workout formulas Ive tried!
 
Hope this helps explain a few things, but any questions - just shout.

BICEP_BILL

j55ttc


Can you take spirodex and Phenorex together?

I've never really looked into it, it's not for me but my better half.

  Has she started using phenorex yet? my other half wants me to get it for her this week  
Second(and last) child, she looking for a bit of a boost. I think its more of a mental thing for her with 'fat burner'.

Yes, she says it makes her very aggressive and similar to what Ive reported above.

Thanks mate, good info

j55ttc


I'm sorry chaps, the last couple of weeks have been hectic beyond belief! After a lot of aggravation we have finally exchanged contracts on a house we are buying :D

I have tried both and they do effect you quite differently...

Spirodex: I feel with this product your energy comes from just feeling great. I took one about an hour before a run and it was a pretty average run. However I found myself with this sort of "skipping through the park" without a care in the world sort of feeling. This lasted for a few hours afterwards where generally I was just very happy. More of an enthusiasm for life kind of buzz rather than a chemically induced one. My wife reported a similar experience but was a little disappointed that there was no rush of energy but there's no crash either.

Phenorex: Ive been using this on and off for ages and its nothing but what seems to be a chemically induced high. This is great for fasted cardio - pop 3 caps and half an hour later you're raring to go. This also lasts for a few hours afterwards with no noticeable "crash" of energy. An hours cardio is a breeze and you find yourself wanting to play air guitar at every opportunity, (difficult on a tri bike & turbo trainer) and head bang to all your favorite rock tunes. I often wake up and dread the thought of fasted cardio but after the phenorex is in the system you're good to go. I'm not taking it every day but in the last 2 1/2 weeks on restricted calories and fasted cardio 4-5 days a week Ive lost 3 1/2 kilograms. It also seems that your body doesn't build up a resistance to phenorex as quickly as a lot of the pre workout formulas Ive tried!

Hope this helps explain a few things, but any questions - just shout.

 
good honest feedback mate, thanks!