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Steroids for women 18 September 2011 15:04 (permalink)

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Hi ladies,

My fiancee has a couple of small cycles under her belt. both orals. first one was anavar, second was winstrol. i dont remember the dose of the first cycle but was very cautious, and did produce some nice results. the winny cycle was 25mg per day and again produced some good results.

there were pretty much no sides at all for either cycle, and she is now looking to do more in the future.

the next i am considering is to combine both the anavar and winstrol and keep them both at low doses to limit possibility of any sides. i am also considering something to help lose bodyfat at the same time (have used ace before with limited results), probably clenbuterol.

i would just like to ask for your opinions, feedback, advice and experiences please.

thanks in advance

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kitty Total Posts : 36533 Reward points : 7723 Joined: 26/08/2003 Location: Chorley, Lancashire Status: online Read my TROG	Re:Steroids for women 20 September 2011 12:14 (permalink) [This post was marked as helpful] Bump.....anyone able to help? Sponsored by Muscle Finesse
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gymbabeliz Total Posts : 4891 Reward points : 7668 Joined: 24/04/2003 Location: glasgow Status: offline Read my TROG	Re:Steroids for women 20 September 2011 16:22 (permalink) [This post was marked as helpful] if she got good results why not just stick to what youve done before? You dont need to go more and more or different each time. UKBFF Fitness 2005 www.lizkinsella.co.uk My gym www.enterprisehealthandfitness.co.uk
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Re:Steroids for women 20 September 2011 18:49 (permalink)

thanks ladies. the results have been acceptable, but we both feel there is much more possible, while still minimising any risks of virilizing side effects.

she is very keen on trying something to cut bodyfat next time along with another course of aas. i actually keep having to rein her in as she wants to do more and push harder, and i keep on telling her to try very little to start with to see how she responds. hence two very light courses so far with no negative side effects.

i am thinking another winstrol course along with clen to see how that goes, and the following course, all being well, to do winny, clen and anavar together. keeping all three at low doseages and hoping 1 plus 1 plus 1 equals more than 3.

has anyone done this themselves, or have different suggestion?

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Re:Steroids for women 20 September 2011 19:11 (permalink)

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With taking any AAS you have to know what your goals are....
If it is simply fat loss - you can seriously modify diet add cardio and in 10 weeks of solid work a BIG transformation can be made.

However if AAS is the course to be trod the winstrol on its own is ok.....but pointless using it with anavar as both are DHT derivatives in other words both do the same thing. So you would be wasting your money having both of these. If injectables are not an issue you could put Winstrol tabs with Primobolan depot or Primobolan depot with anavar is a slightly better option.
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Re:Steroids for women 20 September 2011 21:53 (permalink)

thanks lou,

i am pretty sure injectables are off the menu, maybe one day in the future, but not for now.

regarding goals, it is not just about fat loss, that is of course one aim, but she would really like to build up more muscle than she has been able to achieve with diet and training alone.

interesting what you say about using oral winny and oral anavar, i knew they were both somewhat similar in method of effect, but i thought they had a synergistic effect when used together.

thanks

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Re:Steroids for women 21 September 2011 08:15 (permalink)

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Being a so-called dht derivative means nothing tbh. All it means is that the steroid cannot be 5-alpha reduced due to ring structure. It's a bit like saying don't eat turkey and chicken together because they 'do' similar things. Each steroid will activate the AR irrespective of whether the other is present or not.

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bigdeadweight Total Posts : 771 Reward points : 4470 Joined: 16/08/2006 Location: Manchester Status: offline Read my TROG	Re:Steroids for women 21 September 2011 18:31 (permalink) Thanks PB. does anyone have a suggestion of anything i have maybe not considered?
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ElfinTan Total Posts : 6152 Reward points : 4508 Joined: 27/03/2007 Location: Manchester Status: offline Read my TROG	Re:Steroids for women 23 September 2011 12:11 (permalink) More does not = more with women. It's Just A Ride http://www.paulgeorge.org/ http://www.youtube.com/elfintan
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bigdeadweight Total Posts : 771 Reward points : 4470 Joined: 16/08/2006 Location: Manchester Status: offline Read my TROG	Re:Steroids for women 23 September 2011 17:21 (permalink) Sorry Elfin, can you expand on exactly what you mean please.
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Re:Steroids for women 26 September 2011 13:30 (permalink)

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One thing that must ALWAYS be at the fore front when taking AA's, as a female, is the FACT that there will ALWAYS be sides. And I mean ALWAYS, whether that be just a few spots, scratchy throat or whatever the fact remains that these are side effects of taking drugs. Now, drugs work, yet another fact and most women get good results of small doses and this then also minimises the side effects. In my very very humble opinion there are a couple of separate issues. Each female reacts differently to different drugs so there really is no one set rule for all. There are general consensus ie most start with low dose Anavar etc but then there is a subjectivity the the term 'low dose'. Is that 5mg or 20mg?

There is also the unavoidable problem that it is what you 'believe' you are taking ACTUALLY what you are taking? This really is less of an issue with men but can potentially be a massive problem for a female. If I am taking 10mg of anavar I want to be sure it is what it says on the tin.

As long as you take it as fact that there will be side effects it is then really only personal choice as to what it acceptable. I think the results that can be gained from 'little' cylcles that will minimise sides and over a period of time get some really good gains fair outweighs the 'if 20mg worked well then lets chuck in 40mg'. Softly softly catchy monkey.

I am really no expert but I have personal experience that I am more than happy to share and I get sides off 5mg of Anavar and don't go over 10mg but I also get good strength and muscle gains off it.

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ElfinTan Total Posts : 6152 Reward points : 4508 Joined: 27/03/2007 Location: Manchester Status: offline Read my TROG	Re:Steroids for women 26 September 2011 13:31 (permalink) Before anyone else comments ^^^^ anavar is not all i have used i was just using it as an example. It's Just A Ride http://www.paulgeorge.org/ http://www.youtube.com/elfintan
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Re:Steroids for women 26 September 2011 18:30 (permalink)

thanks Elfin.

this softly softly catchy monkey is the way i am trying to go. very low doses of the safest compounds to try and get maximum gains from minimum risk.

and if all goes well, as it has so far, then look to move on, hence combining the two 'safest' compounds to try and get synergistic benefits.

as far as the label being accurate, i have possibly one of the very best sources in the country. so while you can never be 100% sure, i am as sure as it is possible to be with this.

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Re:Steroids for women 28 September 2011 17:32 (permalink)

ElfinTan

One thing that must ALWAYS be at the fore front when taking AA's, as a female, is the FACT that there will ALWAYS be sides. And I mean ALWAYS, whether that be just a few spots, scratchy throat or whatever the fact remains that these are side effects of taking drugs. Now, drugs work, yet another fact and most women get good results of small doses and this then also minimises the side effects. In my very very humble opinion there are a couple of separate issues. Each female reacts differently to different drugs so there really is no one set rule for all. There are general consensus ie most start with low dose Anavar etc but then there is a subjectivity the the term 'low dose'. Is that 5mg or 20mg?

There is also the unavoidable problem that it is what you 'believe' you are taking ACTUALLY what you are taking? This really is less of an issue with men but can potentially be a massive problem for a female. If I am taking 10mg of anavar I want to be sure it is what it says on the tin.

As long as you take it as fact that there will be side effects it is then really only personal choice as to what it acceptable. I think the results that can be gained from 'little' cylcles that will minimise sides and over a period of time get some really good gains fair outweighs the 'if 20mg worked well then lets chuck in 40mg'. Softly softly catchy monkey.

I am really no expert but I have personal experience that I am more than happy to share and I get sides off 5mg of Anavar and don't go over 10mg but I also get good strength and muscle gains off it.

I have to agree with Tan's post and a very good post too! - every woman does react differently to various compounds - I have been fortunate that while I get sides from 'gear' they are generally speaking mild.

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Re:Steroids for women 28 September 2011 17:34 (permalink)

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thanks Elfin.

this softly softly catchy monkey is the way i am trying to go. very low doses of the safest compounds to try and get maximum gains from minimum risk.

and if all goes well, as it has so far, then look to move on, hence combining the two 'safest' compounds to try and get synergistic benefits.

as far as the label being accurate, i have possibly one of the very best sources in the country. so while you can never be 100% sure, i am as sure as it is possible to be with this.

It has been my experience that shorter cycles (less than 8 wks) with slightly stronger compounds works well for me.

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Re:Steroids for women 28 September 2011 19:12 (permalink)

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thanks Elfin.

this softly softly catchy monkey is the way i am trying to go. very low doses of the safest compounds to try and get maximum gains from minimum risk.

and if all goes well, as it has so far, then look to move on, hence combining the two 'safest' compounds to try and get synergistic benefits.

as far as the label being accurate, i have possibly one of the very best sources in the country. so while you can never be 100% sure, i am as sure as it is possible to be with this.

It has been my experience that shorter cycles (less than 8 wks) with slightly stronger compounds works well for me.

that is interesting, which compounds would you suggest as being a little stronger than winny/anaver for women?

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backafter16yrs Total Posts : 528 Reward points : 5085 Joined: 17/10/2005 Status: offline Read my TROG	Re:Steroids for women 28 September 2011 19:35 (permalink) [This post was marked as helpful] D/bol, Deca, Boldenone, Test prop, GH......and the list could go on ,there are more, and YES I have taken them all Lou No well behaved woman ever made history. PROUD TO BE SPONSORED BY MUSCLE FURY Sports Nutrition
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bigdeadweight Total Posts : 771 Reward points : 4470 Joined: 16/08/2006 Location: Manchester Status: offline Read my TROG	Re:Steroids for women 28 September 2011 21:04 (permalink) how did you find the dbol. i found it pretty harsh but was ok, i know a few people who feel awful on it and cant carry on. i only know of one other women that used it and she said the sides were really harsh for her. i must admit i dont know much about boldenone, how was that for gains vs sides?
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Re:Steroids for women 07 October 2011 19:30 (permalink)

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Can't really say as all my cycles have various compounds - so I am unable to distiguish what gear causes what sides FOR ME. But on the whole the only steroid I have had trouble with is Winstrol...it makes my hair fall out.

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