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Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 18 January 2010 21:44 (permalink)
Looking at your PR's, bench and deadlift are very impressive. MP is something that can be worked on brah.

Looking at your bench protocol. Quite impressive and follows undulated periodization principles. This way to workout has alot of scientific support and I have used it in the past and can say it works very well.

i've been out of action for 3 years but have recently started back and have similar goals to you. perhaps check my journal out
 
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    Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 18 January 2010 21:46 (permalink)
    Solid pushing mate, pretty much on par with mine but I'm about a stone heavier

    Why so little back work though?

    Have you thought about adding in chins, or db rows? Or do they mess with your elbow?

    Failing that, I've found my bench to feel alot more stable since doing extra upper back work such as face pulls, rear delt laterals, band pull aparts etc etc.

    Just some food for though

     
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      Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 18 January 2010 23:03 (permalink)
      Krispy - thanks mate, yeh weights are moving up steadily week on week.

      Celticfan - Yeh I like the periodization of the bench a lot - funnily enough I got the idea from a bodybuilding book that I took out the library just to get ideas on food/meals. I'll take a look at your journal mate.
       
      No13 - I'm up to about 91kg now so you've probably only got about half a stone on me! I'm eating well to get stronger, but I hate the fact that I'm putting on fat as well! In a way I'm looking forward to cutting in about 6 months time!
      I do need to try and get some back work in. Garage roof is on thick wooden beams so gonna see if I can put a couple of joists in that'll support a chin up bar.
      I tried upright rows about 2 months ago but wasn't happy with the impact on my knee (I'm still recovering from having had 2 knee ops in the past year). 
      Those last 3 exercises you suggested - I'll have to look them up - see what they actually are! - def gonna introduce some back work but need to find exercises that aren't gonna impact on my knee. 
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        Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 18 January 2010 23:15 (permalink)
        If you think your putting on too much fat then simply cut back abit.
        If you don't have trouble putting on weight then you don't need to eat everything in sight.

        Set thing I've done is set myself a basic diet plan, doesn't have to be stable or bland, but something whereby you can monitor your macros and get an idea of what your body needs. I use www.dailyburn.com and record my days worth of eating probably 3-5days a week depending where I am. Then weigh myself about twice a week, first thing in the morning too.

        You can enter your current weight, your target weight and estimated bf% and it'll tell you how much you need to eat.

        I think my suggested ranges were 3200-3400cals and that was to put on 2-3lbs if I remember correctly. And it worked, a few months on I'm still eating between those ranges and my weight has stalled as it should.
        So now I know what the 'maintenance' calorie requirements are, and if I wanted to bulk now, simply add 3-400 extra calories a day.

        Again, you don't have to be anal about it, but it helps in the early stages so that it gives you a better understanding of what you put in your body and how it effects it

        I would try and explain those 3 exercises but it's probably easier to just google them. Pretty self explanatory once you've seen some pictures. Rear deltoid laterals however are just like your bog standard side raises for your shoulders, however you do them bent over (seated or standing) and raise your arms up as you would with a normal side raise. The angle of your body then means your hitting the upper back rather than medial deltoids.

        Hope that helps bud!


         
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          Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 18 January 2010 23:52 (permalink)
          Cool, yeh I'll google those exercises. Rear deltoid laterals sounds like one I could do without having to worry about my knee.
          Cheers for the info on the diet as well - I'll def look up that site.
          While I can remember what I've had today, I'll make a note of todays food intake and activities - today is reasonably typical for food. Re activities its not quite a typical day as I wouldn't normally sleep late afternoon and often also work an hour or 2 more:
           
          7:30am 4 Wheetabix and Milk
                       1 Toasted Hot Cross Bun with Margarine
          8:45am Start work
          9am      1 Milk based nourishment drink (340 cals)
          12:30pm 2 Tuna & sweetcorn butties on white bread
                         2 Ham butties on white bread
                         1.5 portions flapjack
          3pm        Finish work
          3:30pm  
                         1 scoop whey with milk
          4pm - 6:30pm Sleep
          6:30pm   1 Penguin
                         1 Orange
          7pm         Shepherds Pie
                         0.5 portion flapjack
                         3/4 pint milk
          8pm-8:45pm Train
          8:50pm    1 can lucozade with 2 scoops whey
          9:30pm    Plate of roast potatoes
                          3/4 pint milk
          To come:
          12am       200g chicken breasts
          12:30am  2 scoops whey with milk       

          I'll do a proper analysis of this tomo.       
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          Bench 132kg (at 95kg)
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            Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 20 January 2010 22:09 (permalink)
            Very frustrating session today. Was aiming for 3x4 115kg on bench. First set, got in the wrong position with the bar and so aborted it after 2 very tough reps. Then when I tried again, only managed 3 reps with my problematic left shoulder feeling quite painful - so decided it was best to end the session there.

            Session 24: Wed 20/01/10
             
            Bench, warm ups, 2,3 x 115kg

            Think I def need to mix up the routine- as doing heavy military press one session, then heavy bench next session 2 days later, then repeat, is a bit of recipe for disaster with a dodgy shoulder! Maybe look to sub in db bench instead of bb - and see what else I can do to make the sessions less strenuous on my bad shoulder.
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              Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 23 January 2010 17:51 (permalink)
              Right, finally decided to change up my routine. Decided that having either BB bench or military press in every single session was contributing to my shoulder problems, so mixed it up a bit.
               
              Routine will now be as follows:
               
              Session 1: DB Bench, Dips & poss 1 Support Exercise
              Session 2: DB Shoulder Press & 2 Support Exercises
              Session 3: BB Bench, Dips & poss 1 Support Exercise
              Session 4: Military Press & 2 Support Exercises
               
              Support exercises on shoulder days will include some upper back work, as suggested by No13
               
              Did my first session on the new routine this afternoon. Been quite ill the past couple of days - on Thursday, I was feeling rough as a bears arse all day with stomach ache and feeling sick, dunno what caused it, but only managed to eat an apple and 2 small kitkats that whole day!
              Feeling not so bad now but its probably sapped my strength a bit, so not gonna bother re-testing 1RM's for a couple of weeks.
              Did flat DB bench today for the first time in months. In the past I've always naturally done it with my palms facing in, but decided to try it today with palms facing away from me, as most people do it - I think it'll benefit my BB bench more this way as its a more similar technique. But found it very strange and much harder (prob just cos I'm not used to it), even with relatively low weights.
               
              Session 25: 23/1/10
               
              DB Bench: Warm ups, 2x8 37kg, 7 reps x 42kg
              Dips w/20kg: 3x10
               
              Didn't bother with the last support exercise as I was feeling exhausted after the dips, prob not quite 100% fully recovered yet.
               
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                Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 25 January 2010 22:07 (permalink)
                Session 26: Mon 25/1/10

                Seated DB Shoulder Press: Warm ups,
                                                            6x32kg RH, 6x32kg LH
                                                            3x35kg RH, 4x35kg LH
                                                            6x30kg RH, 6x30kg LH
                                                            6x30kg RH, 6x30kg LH
                Rear Delt Lat Raises: 3x10 7kg
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                Bench 132kg (at 95kg)
                Military Press 84kg (at 95kg)
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                  Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 28 January 2010 21:05 (permalink)
                  Session 27: Thu 28/1/10

                  Bench: Warm ups,
                              8x89kg
                              7x100kg (didn't quite get right position on bar)
                              2x8 100kg
                  Dips w/25kg: 3x10
                  Press ups w/stands: 20 reps
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                    Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 28 January 2010 21:18 (permalink)
                    How you getting on matey?

                    Revised routine looks better. What rep/set schemes are you using? Will it be the same for all exercises?
                     
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                      Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 29 January 2010 16:37 (permalink)
                      Not too bad thx mate. Yeh I'm liking the variety of the new routine and the fact that it doesn't cause so much havoc with my elbows and bad shoulder.
                      I haven't got a definite plan in mind re sets/reps like I did before, but I'm tending towards slightly higher reps than before - idea being that higher reps/ slightly lower weight  will protect my elbows and shoulder more than things like 3x3 and 3x4 would, due to the wight involved. I want to be able to keep training every 2-3 days rather than be taking full weeks off cos of niggly injuries.
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                        Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 30 January 2010 17:19 (permalink)
                        Session 28: Sat 30/1/10

                        Military Press: Warm ups,
                                               8x57kg
                                               2x8 64kg
                                               5x67kg
                        Rear Delt Lat Raises: 3x10 7kg
                        Standing Horizontal Press: 3x8 21kg (not actually sure what to call this exercise, I'll post a separate thread!)
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                          Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 30 January 2010 18:09 (permalink)
                          Hi Ian having just read through your journal, you are carring a lot of injurys, taking pain killers is not helping the cause, have you tried training to strengthen up your weak areas ? and train around them giving them a chance to recover? you are taking two steps forward and three back, you are still young and have many years of lifting in you if you go about it the right way, or it could come a a sticky end, are your injurys cause by other sports? or just you trying to lift too much weight with bad form?
                          fair play to you sticking in there when many would quit, considering the pain you must suffer,  you have some good PB for your size, spare some consideration for your body it the only one you got look after it, rest it and give it a chance to recover, you say you are going to cut, why not bring that foward and rest you body from big lifts up your cardio and sort your diet, that way you can keep what you have gained (muscle) and get lean. 
                          then you can come back fitter and wiser for your next heavy seasion.
                          Good luck in what ever you choose.  
                           
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                            Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 30 January 2010 18:45 (permalink)
                            Hi mate, thanks for the advice. A lot of what you've said I've come to realise myself in the past few weeks!
                            I changed my routine 4 sessions ago to help deal with the niggly injury probs. For instance, I'm now doing flat BB bench (which I think was causing a lot of problems) once every 4 sessions now rather than once every 2. I'm also doing most of my sets with lower weight and around 8 reps, rather than heavier weights and 3-5 reps as I was doing before.
                            It seems to be working fairly well as I haven't needed painkillers at all since I changed it.
                            In terms of cutting, the reason I'm not doing it yet is because I'm still recovering from my 2 knee ops. My knee seriously limits the amount of cardio I can do and so I'm leaving cutting until its fully recovered (should be July-August) so I can then do the cardio to make a cut worthwhile.
                            Like you said, I've realised that staying injury free is the most important thing long term, and hopefully the changes I've made with the new routine should allow me to stay fit! Cheers again mate
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                              Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 30 January 2010 19:16 (permalink)
                              You are welcome keep an eye on the amount of weight you gain couple of pounds a month should see you gaining muscle and not too much fat, would make for an easy life for your knees too and help speed up there recovery. 
                               
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                                Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 01 February 2010 21:38 (permalink)
                                Thanks mate. I'm keeping a close eye on my fat and trying to avoid unhealthy food as much as possible, tho I think with a bulking type diet and not much opportyunity for cardio, its inevitable I will gain some fat.

                                Tonight's session was a good'un - really pleased with the 11 reps on DB bench, compared to the 7 just over a week ago.

                                Session 29: 1/2/10

                                DB Bench: Warmups,
                                                 2x8 38.5kg
                                                 11 reps 42kg
                                Dips w/30kg: 10,10,9
                                Press ups w/stands: 25 reps 
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                                  Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 04 February 2010 23:44 (permalink)
                                  Session 30: 4/2/10

                                  DB Shoulder Press: 6x22kg EH
                                                                 6x27kg EH
                                                                 6x32kg EH
                                                                 4x35kg RH 0x35kg LH
                                                                 1x35kg RH 6x35kg LH PB
                                                                 3x35kg RH
                                                                 10x30kg EH
                                                                  6x33kg EH
                                  Rear Delt Lat Raises 3x10 7.5kg
                                  Lat Pull Downs 27reps PB

                                  Note: LH = Left Hand, RH = Right Hand, EH = Each Hand
                                  Pleased with the 2 PB's. Reason for the strange up and down performances on DB shoulder press was soreness in my left wrist (which went away when I slapped a load of deep heat on it, and on the right hand, going too low down on one rep and being unable to push it up from too low a position.
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                                    Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 16 February 2010 23:30 (permalink)
                                    I've not updated this for a while. I trained a week and a half ago and my left wrist was really sore going for a 1RM, so much so that I abandoned the session and then took a week off. I've started back now and to protect my wrist, I'm leaving flat BB bench totally out my schedule. Last 2 sessions haven't been bad, although I really let my diet slip in the week off - causing me to drop 2 kilos down to 89kg. Strength's prob a bit down too as a result, although I'm getting back into now and eating well again so it should come back.
                                     
                                    These are the sessions:
                                     
                                    Session 31: Sat 6/2/10
                                     
                                    Bench: 6x49, 49, 69kg
                                                4x69kg
                                                2x89kg
                                                1x104kg
                                                1x116kg
                                                127kg Failed
                                     
                                    Session 32: Sat 13/2/10   
                                     
                                    DB Bench: 10x22kg
                                                     6x32kg
                                                     3x8 42kg
                                    Dips: 10reps unweighted
                                             3x10 30kg
                                     
                                    Session 33: Wed 16/2/10 
                                     
                                    Military Press: 6x37,47,57kg
                                                           8,8,7 x 65kg
                                    Rear Delt Lat Raises: 3x8 8kg
                                    Lat Pull Downs: 27 reps
                                    Deadlift 185kg (at 80kg)
                                    Bench 132kg (at 95kg)
                                    Military Press 84kg (at 95kg)
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                                      Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 18 February 2010 15:54 (permalink)
                                      Not a bad session today, DB bench is coming on nicely. The chain on my dip belt broke while loading up the weights for weighted dips. Not too happy as I only bought it just before Christmas - and if it had snapped midway through the exercise it could've caused a nasty injury. Hopefully I've still got the receipt!!
                                       
                                      Session 34: 18/2/10

                                      DB Bench: 10 x 22kg
                                                       8 x 32kg
                                                       3x8 44kg
                                      Dips: 10 reps unweighted
                                      Incline Flys: 3x8 22kg
                                      Chest Expander: 11 reps
                                      Deadlift 185kg (at 80kg)
                                      Bench 132kg (at 95kg)
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                                        Re:Progress Journal - 2 month Strength Programme 20 February 2010 13:58 (permalink)
                                        Not bad session again, pleased with the PB's on DB shoulder press and lat pull down - although wondering if the lat pull down is too high reps to really make it worthwhile.
                                        My knee gave me a quick reminder today as well - as I stepped off the chair holding the DB after one of the sets on shoulder press, I put a lot of weight slightly unbalanced on my bad knee, and felt a short sharp pain underneath the knee, where I've got the artificial ligament. Need to watch that.
                                         
                                        Session 35: 20/2/10

                                        DB Shoulder Press: 2x6 17kg BH
                                                                       6 x 22kg BH
                                                                       3 x 27kg BH
                                                                       2 x 32kg BH
                                                                       6 x 35kg BH - PB
                                                                       6 x 33kg BH
                                                                       6 x 30kg BH
                                        Shrugs:                  10 x 49kg
                                                                      10 x 69kg
                                                                      10 x 89kg
                                        Lat Pull Downs:      30 reps - PB 
                                        Deadlift 185kg (at 80kg)
                                        Bench 132kg (at 95kg)
                                        Military Press 84kg (at 95kg)
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